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ChrisSlicks 01-09-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 887608)
Yes it will. Places the fob in the dash reduces the required power transmission levels significantly.

The transmitter in the fob operates at a fixed power level, just because the signal has to travel a shorter distance won't help it in this case.

Red__Zed 01-09-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 887621)
The transmitter in the fob operates at a fixed power level, just because the signal has to travel a shorter distance won't help it in this case.

It does not. The transmission is inversely proportional to received power level.

I've taken one of the fobs apart and actually played with the circuitry. Where do you gather that the transmission level is fixed?

sonic370 01-09-2011 06:39 PM

i don't understand why you didn't get 2 sets of fobs........ your car is to new to get only one.. go back to the dealer and ask them where the second fob is at.

ChrisSlicks 01-09-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 887632)
It does not. The transmission is inversely proportional to received power level.

I've taken one of the fobs apart and actually played with the circuitry. Where do you gather that the transmission level is fixed?

When I took mine apart I didn't identify anything that could control the transmitter power. Are you saying you actually measured the output? I didn't go as far as actually probing the circuit so if that's the case it is interesting. But I'll still keep the key in my pocket and replace the $1 battery when the time comes. :)

Red__Zed 01-09-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 887802)
When I took mine apart I didn't identify anything that could control the transmitter power. Are you saying you actually measured the output? I didn't go as far as actually probing the circuit so if that's the case it is interesting. But I'll still keep the key in my pocket and replace the $1 battery when the time comes. :)

I keep mine in my pocket as well. I was just answering OP's question.

More accurately, TX power stays roughly the same, but the more power is received, the less that needs to be supplied by the battery. With a high enough RX power, the unit functions almost as a passive RFID.

c41006 01-09-2011 07:52 PM

Please excuse me while my head explodes

LunaZ 01-09-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 887632)
It does not. The transmission is inversely proportional to received power level.

I've taken one of the fobs apart and actually played with the circuitry. Where do you gather that the transmission level is fixed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 887802)
When I took mine apart I didn't identify anything that could control the transmitter power. Are you saying you actually measured the output? I didn't go as far as actually probing the circuit so if that's the case it is interesting. But I'll still keep the key in my pocket and replace the $1 battery when the time comes. :)


What prompted you guys to dissect your fobs?

Lemers 01-09-2011 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 887870)
What prompted you guys to dissect your fobs?

My FOB is bigger than your FOB

Red__Zed 01-09-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 887870)
What prompted you guys to dissect your fobs?

being an engineer:happydance:

Doug&Michelle 01-09-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 887749)
i don't understand why you didn't get 2 sets of fobs........ your car is to new to get only one.. go back to the dealer and ask them where the second fob is at.

I bought it used at a Chevy dealer (trade in). They only had the one key and no key for the wheels. They weren't even sure if there was an owner's manual but I did find that in the flip out behind the passenger seat.

ChrisSlicks 01-10-2011 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 887862)
I keep mine in my pocket as well. I was just answering OP's question.

More accurately, TX power stays roughly the same, but the more power is received, the less that needs to be supplied by the battery. With a high enough RX power, the unit functions almost as a passive RFID.

Ah, gotcha. And in the case of a dead battery it basically is a passive RFID. +rep for doing the extra digging.


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