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sucasa 01-25-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zrider (Post 909433)
it was the steering wheel lock, just like the other members stated, right on the dot. Got it fixed !!

nice, glad u got it fixed.

SPOHN 01-25-2011 10:26 AM

Might be a long shot. But do they pay to have it towed to the dealer?

tjlazer 01-25-2011 11:28 AM

yes since it's a warantee issue. always

kenchan 01-25-2011 11:36 AM

hummm... is it just the lock to be replaced? is it easy to replace this steering lock?

i'd keep one in the car just in case if it's easy to replace with basic tools. i have some tools all the time in my cars (breaker bar, basic wrench sizes, basic sockets, screw drivers, can opener, skillet, ladle, etc. ;) )

spitfire9200 01-25-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 911121)
hummm... is it just the lock to be replaced? is it easy to replace this steering lock?

i'd keep one in the car just in case if it's easy to replace with basic tools. i have some tools all the time in my cars (breaker bar, basic wrench sizes, basic sockets, screw drivers, can opener, skillet, ladle, etc. ;) )

your posts still amaze me sometimes.


op - glad u got it fixed. I'm in Arlington and go to Passport too, they're good people.

SPOHN 01-25-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 911121)
hummm... is it just the lock to be replaced? is it easy to replace this steering lock?

i'd keep one in the car just in case if it's easy to replace with basic tools. i have some tools all the time in my cars (breaker bar, basic wrench sizes, basic sockets, screw drivers, can opener, skillet, ladle, etc. ;) )

That might work when it's outside of warranty. Who knows what it cost. Then you can write up DIY thread.

sucasa 01-25-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spitfire9200 (Post 911151)
your posts still amaze me sometimes.


op - glad u got it fixed. I'm in Arlington and go to Passport too, they're good people.


+1 for Passport.. Bought my car here this past month and plan to get it serviced here as well.

zrider 01-25-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 910953)
Might be a long shot. But do they pay to have it towed to the dealer?

I had bought extended warranty and with that comes 24/7 roadside assistance and I just used that.

zrider 01-25-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sucasa (Post 911178)
+1 for Passport.. Bought my car here this past month and plan to get it serviced here as well.

I dont know, I have mixed feelings about them. Some of the guys are cool but others just talk out of their a$$. They wouldnt do my oil change because the guy said only Nissan Ester goes in. I just shook my head and said thats not true and left because i didnt want to waste time arguing with the guy haha :shakes head: .

SiXK 01-25-2011 12:36 PM

Yes, same issue happened to me last week. Ignition would not even progress to accessory. Only thing it would do is flash that "Key" warning light. Owners manual states car "may be impossible to start."

It happened to me late at night, not at home. Next day I had to flatbed it to dealership.

Apparently they don't make a habit of stocking the "steering wheel lock unit."

Five days later I got my car back. My dealership does not do loaners. Nissan's rental coverage is limited, I opted against it.

It happened without warning. It could happen to you anytime you stop the car. The unit failed without locking the steering. The dealership could not tell me if the new part was the same or different than the one it replaced. My hope is they know why it failed and fixed the issues with the lock unit.

It was a real pain in the ***. If they are going to replace something that works fine - like a real key - then don't replace it with a flaky system that leaves the car susceptible to a single point of failure like a steering wheel lock unit!

ChrisSlicks 01-25-2011 01:33 PM

Corvette's have a huge problem with this as well. Chevy has yet to come up with a 100% solution, but the after market created a solution called the steering lock bypass (or CLB). If there was a way to completely disable the steering lock I'd be down for that.

kenchan 01-25-2011 01:44 PM

CLB sounds like a great idea. in for group-buy. :D

dudafunk 01-25-2011 02:33 PM

Subscribed as I'm getting an after market alarm installed soon, and if I run into this issue I'm guessing the warranty will be void because of the alarm install?

SoCal 370Z 01-25-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dudafunk (Post 911450)
Subscribed as I'm getting an after market alarm installed soon, and if I run into this issue I'm guessing the warranty will be void because of the alarm install?

How so? Dealerships' add their own aftermarket alarms too. It seems this lock-up is becoming an issue that Nissan needs to address and fix. If the part(s) that fails is Nissan's they would not be able to void your warranty for an aftermarket alarm. I think what owners' need to really worry about is the out-of-warranty costs of fixing this system as this will likely prove quite expensive:
  1. towing charges
  2. diagnostics charges
  3. part(s) charges
  4. removal and installation charges

Something to consider as a prospective buyer of both a new or used 370Z.

kenchan 01-25-2011 03:16 PM

so how does this steering lock interact with the immobilizer? almost sounds like the lock fails resulting in an open circuit (solenoid burnt out). if there is some resistance while bypassing this lock the immobilizer 'thinks' the lock is operating? bypassing this circuit would be like a SRS trick resistor?

no idea :confused:

dwntwnall4u 01-25-2011 08:15 PM

This issue really sucks. Fine they replace the steering lock unit but I assume the replacement will eventually fail again too.

CrownR426 01-25-2011 09:48 PM

I think the 09 owners should check this out before it happens.
My whole day was ruined waiting for the tow company that was 1 hour late. ETA was 50 minutes...

zrider 01-25-2011 10:56 PM

i had no idea that there were so many people with this problem. sucks :shakes head:

SiXK 01-26-2011 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 911342)
... but the after market created a solution called the steering lock bypass (or CLB). If there was a way to completely disable the steering lock I'd be down for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 911373)
CLB sounds like a great idea. in for group-buy. :D

This would be great.

dudafunk 01-26-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 911514)
How so? Dealerships' add their own aftermarket alarms too. It seems this lock-up is becoming an issue that Nissan needs to address and fix. If the part(s) that fails is Nissan's they would not be able to void your warranty for an aftermarket alarm. I think what owners' need to really worry about is the out-of-warranty costs of fixing this system as this will likely prove quite expensive:
  1. towing charges
  2. diagnostics charges
  3. part(s) charges
  4. removal and installation charges

Something to consider as a prospective buyer of both a new or used 370Z.

With the Viper alarms etc., don't you need an 'immobilizer'... (I'm not too well versed but have the exact model numbers, but I'm sure you guys are familiar), don't these relate to the things that are going bad here?

didymus 01-26-2011 09:43 AM

Interesting thread

kenchan 01-26-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by didymus (Post 912616)
Interesting thread

did your 280 come with a crank to start your car? :icon17: ;)

dwntwnall4u 01-27-2011 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 912238)
I think the 09 owners should check this out before it happens.
My whole day was ruined waiting for the tow company that was 1 hour late. ETA was 50 minutes...

The only problem is there is no real warning to know when it will fail. Makes me worried at times to take my car out for a drive too far.

SPOHN 01-27-2011 07:24 AM

It really suck if you happen to stall it in traffic and it wouldn't crank. Unlike being in a parking lot.

SiXK 01-27-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dwntwnall4u (Post 914143)
The only problem is there is no real warning to know when it will fail. Makes me worried at times to take my car out for a drive too far.

Agreed. There is absolutely no warning or indication. It works fine and then doesn't work at all, and then the car just sits there, completely disabled.

And that's the biggest issue for me. Like you said, I don't want to take the car on a trip, don't want to kill it late at night at a service station or a store. It basically feels like a crap-shoot each time I turn it off. I should keep some dice in the center console.

CrownR426 01-27-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwntwnall4u (Post 914143)
The only problem is there is no real warning to know when it will fail. Makes me worried at times to take my car out for a drive too far.



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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 914200)
It really suck if you happen to stall it in traffic and it wouldn't crank. Unlike being in a parking lot.

If your Z is running you will never run into this problem. :driving:
I went to the gas station so I was lucky at least.
I'm more annoyed that I bought a brand new car and it's had 2 major problems.... :shakes head:

SPOHN 01-27-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 914794)
If your Z is running you will never run into this problem. :driving:
I went to the gas station so I was lucky at least.
I'm more annoyed that I bought a brand new car and it's had 2 major problems.... :shakes head:

What I meant was if you stalled such as pop the clutch and it shut off and didn't restart.

ChrisSlicks 01-27-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 915010)
What I meant was if you stalled such as pop the clutch and it shut off and didn't restart.

The problem only happens on a full cycle. If you stall the car is still in the ON mode so you shouldn't experience the problem.

SPOHN 01-27-2011 06:51 PM

Oh, ok. That's a plus.

CrownR426 01-27-2011 10:55 PM

Glad not many people are going through this...
:confused:

SiXK 01-28-2011 07:17 AM

It is true the problem will only disable the vehicle after a full ignition cycle, but according to the owners manual the problem can occur even while the car is running. According to Nissan if the "Intelligent Key Warning Light" comes on while the car is running you should drive it to the dealership without cutting it off.

sajonf 01-28-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zrider (Post 882912)
kind of a long story so ill try to make it short, i just got home, 5:38 AM .

I dropped my girlfriend off last night and i walked her to the door, then came back to my car but it doesnt start... I thought the battery in my key fob had died so I inserted the key fob into the the area where you put it when it dies, sorry i dont know the actual term only thing i can think of is fobgina, which i heard from this site haha. anyways that doesnt work so i dont know whats going on. confused i try it over and over again leaving the car unlocking it getting back it, nothing. I know its not the car battery or the key fob anymore because im able to lock and unlock the doors. Then a light comes on my dash, a key symbol and i look it up in the owners manual. It says that something is wrong with the key reading system and that i will not be able to start the car... and to get it towed and repaired immediately.

The tow guy just dropped it off at the dealership. The whole process was a pain in the a** because they werent able to tow it due to my exhaust, but i wont get into that. and i have to call the dealership in the morning... I am absolutely furious and wondering what is wrong with my z :shakes head:

LOL "Fobgina" - that's the first time I've heard that one:icon17:

Cleto 01-28-2011 07:51 PM

I am curious as to where is the fobgina located in the 370z, just in case this happens to me?

cptspeed 01-28-2011 07:55 PM

to the left of the steering wheel on the dash

Zeon 05-06-2011 04:19 AM

Hi guys, virgin post here.

Am intending to purchase a 09 370z MT.. Is this issue only confined to the 09 models or are the 2010 and 2011 having the same issues?

Anyone can confirm if the part that is changed is of a different part or is it still the same bound-to-fail part?

Thanks (:

DLSTR 05-06-2011 05:46 AM

Interesting data about the GT-R and a fix. Tip about hitting the start button 2 times to keep it from happening. Not 370z specific but related.

DIY Write Up: Steering Lock Fix - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

sonic370 05-06-2011 08:12 PM

car makers come up with one cool idea,push button start...

but then have a whole other bunch of issues to deal with.

SPOHN 05-06-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 1093382)
Interesting data about the GT-R and a fix. Tip about hitting the start button 2 times to keep it from happening. Not 370z specific but related.

DIY Write Up: Steering Lock Fix - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

Great find. Very interesting stuff.

BrandonT 05-06-2011 09:18 PM

Probably a good thread to ask: what is the proper way to tow the 370Z? What should you definitely NOT do?

DLSTR 05-07-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1095044)
Great find. Very interesting stuff.

I read most of the thread. I think the parts are the same(Z and GT-R) and its model year 09 getting most of the problem.


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