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ImportConvert 12-29-2010 10:07 AM

370Z Rigidity (Hz or Torsional/bending Nm-Deg) anyone?
 
Does anyone know these numbers? I could not find them. I am very curious as to how rigid the car is in actuality. A lot of people think something is rigid and it's not, for example, a Cobalt LT is more rigid than a C5 Z06. Noone would have seen that coming. I am curious how the 370Z fares before the cold glare of engineering specifications.

shadoquad 12-29-2010 10:16 AM

http://www.phenomenon.org/fff/no_idea.jpg

I wouldn't know where to look for these numbers, although I would be interested to see them in the context of competitive models in the Z's range.

Red__Zed 12-29-2010 12:17 PM

I think the only way to get them is to actually test the car, and I doubt anyone has done that with a z yet.

Raw numbers like that are useless anyways-- they are
only useful in the context of the overall car.

Dreezy562 12-29-2010 01:30 PM

Lol.....

GZ3 12-29-2010 02:44 PM

LOL...that damn bunny pancake thing gets me everytime

maybe an e-mail to nissan directly?!

theDreamer 12-29-2010 03:05 PM

The real question here is, do you (OP) even know what you are talking about?

FuszNissan 12-29-2010 03:43 PM

I am going to go out on a limb here......7

ImportConvert 12-29-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 871094)
The real question here is, do you (OP) even know what you are talking about?

I do not have anengineering degree, but I can tell you when Ford increased torsional rigidity in the mustang for the 2005's by 31%, the result was very tactile. The whole car felt different for it, and creaked a lot less. Most cars I have been in that are "supposed" to be very rigid, feel floppy to me, like the C6 corvette. I looked up the rigidity, and it was lower than that of a cobalt, coming in at around something like 9100 nm/* (This was for the C5, which the C6 is SLIGHTLY more rigid than, but not too much so), IIRC. GM usually does their stuff in Hz, which I do not understand nearly as well as nm/* or other torque per degree measurements. I do know that higher is better, and can feel the difference in a car when I drive it.

Newton...measure of force. Newton meter per degree (Nm/Deg). Number of newtons required when using a leverage point 1m long to effect a 1* change in alignment along the axis of a structure (My personal definition, feel free to correct my ignorance if it has exposed itself).

EazyD 12-29-2010 03:53 PM

Start watching at 7:25 and they show some bendiness to it... don't see any numbers, but gives a good idea versus 350Z I believe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSb_8Bai6nk


edit: make your own engine noises :yum:

GZ3 12-29-2010 04:20 PM

ohh excellent post Eazy!

specZ 12-29-2010 06:59 PM

+1 on the vid. Didnt see any torsion numbers but its nice to see the flex in the Z.

PapoZalsa 12-29-2010 08:58 PM

Nice vid!

Now we need to call Albert Einstein to see what the OP is talking about...

esfourteen 12-29-2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 870605)
Does anyone know these numbers? I could not find them. I am very curious as to how rigid the car is in actuality. A lot of people think something is rigid and it's not, for example, a Cobalt LT is more rigid than a C5 Z06. Noone would have seen that coming. I am curious how the 370Z fares before the cold glare of engineering specifications.

When are you buying a 370z again?

CBRich 12-29-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 871743)
When are you buying a 370z again?

LOL. Here we go.

ImportConvert 12-29-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 871743)
When are you buying a 370z again?

Actually thinking about it soon (1-3 months?). My credit-union has seriously tightened up their lending proceedures and the Z06 may be out of the picture. They would finance 100% of a $40K MSRP vehicle, though, and that would leave me with the downpayment I saved up for the Z06 to put a twin-turbo setup in the 370. I'm a flexible person with life and like to keep my options open. It seems like the issues with the FI setups have been worked out, and like I said all along, my only issue with the 370Z was the cheap paint and the lack of power. The TT kit fixes the power, and about a month ago I became aware of "car wraps", which takes care of the cheap paint. Besides, buying a cheaper car would allow me to move/do whatever I wanted a lot sooner than a more expensive one. So, will just see what the bank says and go from there. :tiphat:


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