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m4a1mustang 12-27-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 867685)
yeah if I leave VDC on throttle gets killed instantly

another reason to keep VDC on. you are safer if you cant move

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4r3s 12-27-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 867683)
I think they suggested turning VDC off because with a summer tire or an all-season that doesn't have the best snow traction you need to really spin to get moving. Tires with poor grip have to claw their way along and they can't do that if VDC is interrupting.

With a proper winter tire you can leave VDC on and let it work to help you move along.

the counter point would be if you are spinning your tires you are clearly not getting traction. In the snow you literally have to feather the gas pedal otherwise you are only going to peel wheel. VDC limits the tire spin which should increase traction in theory. I have yet to have VDC cut my throttle the way others on the forum describe so I'm inclined to say you all have a heavy driving foot which would not be good in the snow.

Suffice to say the best thing to do is to not drive the z in the snow period end of story. But that is not always possible so get yourself some snow shoes, drive riduculously defensive, take your time, leave atleast 4x the normal distance between you and other vehicles, brake light and easy and EARLY, baby the throttle, and learn to counter steer as the car will want to go side ways on occassion in the snow.

Jessobear 12-27-2010 10:34 AM

The one time I got stuck in the snow, I kept VDC on. Considering that the car had basically zero traction, it seemed to help. Also, if you spin the tires, the car will just yaw sideways. On city streets that could mean sliding into parked cars.

m4a1mustang 12-27-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 867744)
Suffice to say the best thing to do is to not drive the z in the snow period end of story. But that is not always possible so get yourself some snow shoes, drive riduculously defensive, take your time, leave atleast 4x the normal distance between you and other vehicles, brake light and easy and EARLY, baby the throttle, and learn to counter steer as the car will want to go side ways on occassion in the snow.

Yeah, snow shoes are a must if you choose to drive your car in the snow. With them on you can handle any snow your car can clear... but then you have to watch out for everyone else.

Snakes709 12-27-2010 11:25 AM

Its not just taking off that VDC is a issue. I found it was every time i went around a turn at a intersection. If i had a green light and it didnt require me to make a full 100% stop, then i would proceed slower then normal, however, with the way the city "plows" the roads here, you still slide around the turn. Now i can have 100% control of the car when my rear end slidees out abit around a turn. But when the VDC kicks in when it starts that, it just screws everything up and im all over the place.

Joka4411 12-27-2010 01:38 PM

Dont drive your z in the winter time at all, if you can afford to buy a pair of winter tires, then you can afford to buy a cheap used car to drive just in bad weather. Just my 2cents!!!!!


No one should ever own a Z without a second Vehicle.

Snakes709 12-27-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Joka4411 (Post 867921)
Dont drive your z in the winter time at all, if you can afford to buy a pair of winter tires, then you can afford to buy a cheap used car to drive just in bad weather. Just my 2cents!!!!!


No one should ever own a Z without a second Vehicle.

i dont believen that. We arent talking about a $120,000 ZR1 here, its a $36,000 car, not that big of a deal.

m4a1mustang 12-27-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709 (Post 867944)
i dont believen that. We arent talking about a $120,000 ZR1 here, its a $36,000 car, not that big of a deal.

I agree. The Z works fine as an only car, even in areas where you expect to do a fair amount of snow driving. You just need the proper tires.

A second car definitely won't hurt, but there's nothing wrong with taking the Z out in the snow! :tup:

TypeOne 12-27-2010 03:28 PM

I'm glad I don't have to drive in any kind of snow...ever.

I'll deal with the heat in the summer to not have snow.

caodan2010 12-27-2010 03:37 PM

Honestly, VDC has to be turned off and use common sense. No hard accelerations and no sharp turns. (VDC off while driving on super snowy roads... Once VDC kicks in and locks the wheels... you will be stuck... it's better to have the wheels spin instead to lock them).
gooooooood point nogoodname, but goodthing is im in california and california never snows ^^

crash1369 12-27-2010 07:34 PM

On the contrary I was surprised at just how well the VDC worked today in the snow. I found out the hard way you can't turn it off while it's active so I just powered through, I forgot about it until the tires started slipping but I figured if I have to stop anyway to turn it off I might as well see how far I get first. It never made me stop and I wouldn't have been moving any faster if it was off, the tires would have been spinning faster but I wouldn't have made any more progress.
If you plowing snow though, which is obviously very easy to do in this car, you will get stuck either way. You might make it a little further with no traction control but that fact is it's a sports car not a truck.
Tires will make all the difference in the world though and they are really the determining factor.

Jessobear 12-28-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709 (Post 867944)
i dont believen that. We arent talking about a $120,000 ZR1 here, its a $36,000 car, not that big of a deal.

I don't think it has anything to do with the value of the car, it has to do with the car being completely impractical. There's also the fact that having a set of winter wheels/tires means having 19's, which is not cheap. If I didn't have a second car, I definitely would not have bought a 370Z. I'd have probably gone for something like a used Audi RS4.

I can barely get my hockey bag in the Z to go to games (I actually have to sort of mash it under the hatch). The car is not really practical for being anything beyond a grocery getter.

m4a1mustang 12-28-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear (Post 868746)
I don't think it has anything to do with the value of the car, it has to do with the car being completely impractical. There's also the fact that having a set of winter wheels/tires means having 19's, which is not cheap. If I didn't have a second car, I definitely would not have bought a 370Z. I'd have probably gone for something like a used Audi RS4.

I can barely get my hockey bag in the Z to go to games (I actually have to sort of mash it under the hatch). The car is not really practical for being anything beyond a grocery getter.

18" wheels will clear. You can get a nice winter setup for around $1500. Figure it will last you 3-4 winters and that's a good deal.

I found my Z was fairly practical. I never had to haul any bulky stuff, the hatch is plenty big enough for a big trip to the grocery store, and if I ever needed to really haul something I could borrow my dads car. For a performance car the Z has really good fuel economy as well.

kielbasa16 12-28-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 868749)
18" wheels will clear. You can get a nice winter setup for around $1500. Figure it will last you 3-4 winters and that's a good deal.

I found my Z was fairly practical. I never had to haul any bulky stuff, the hatch is plenty big enough for a big trip to the grocery store, and if I ever needed to really haul something I could borrow my dads car. For a performance car the Z has really good fuel economy as well.

+1. My winter setup on 18s cost me even less than 1500 and I was extremely impressed driving this morning. Local roads have not been plowed properly after this big snowfall in the northeast and the Z handled it beautifully. Winter tires make all the difference.

Snakes709 12-28-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear (Post 868746)
I don't think it has anything to do with the value of the car, it has to do with the car being completely impractical. There's also the fact that having a set of winter wheels/tires means having 19's, which is not cheap. If I didn't have a second car, I definitely would not have bought a 370Z. I'd have probably gone for something like a used Audi RS4.

I can barely get my hockey bag in the Z to go to games (I actually have to sort of mash it under the hatch). The car is not really practical for being anything beyond a grocery getter.

Mine was on 18's and it came to $1557 taxes/labour included. I do agree about it being impractical for being able to haul things. I couldnt even fit my army gear in the car. Hence why i bought a truck (that and i needed a truck anyways to haul the bike to the track). But none the less. The 370z is 100% capable in the snow, its just people dont know how to drive in the winter.

Same thing with my truck. All my buddies at work keep saying "oh have fun in the winter with a 500hp rwd truck, you dont have 4x4, no weight in the back and you have all that power, you are getting stuck"

Well seeing as i actualy have all season tires on (i wanted winters but i was away for 3 months and by the time i got back, couldnt find any that would fit my setup)...i havent gotten stuck once. I actually went to the base gym one day, just after 20cm of snow fell and the plows havent been out yet. Went through the parking lot, parked the truck, was walking to the doors and seen a Ford F150 (i think) that was stuck, he was in 4x4 and all wheels were spinning.

Like i said, it all depends on the driver. This is also my first winter with the truck and the way i learned how it handles in the winter is going to Winter Auto-X events at the base.

crash1369 12-28-2010 01:22 PM

What do you have that has 500hp?

Snakes709 12-28-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crash1369 (Post 869028)
What do you have that has 500hp?

SRT-10 Ram...basically a Ram 1500 with a viper engine in it...lol.

370zproject 12-28-2010 02:34 PM

i have falken 452's are those any good on snow? lol trustr me im not gonna drive in the snow unless i get stuck at work... or i want to play a bit

m4a1mustang 12-28-2010 02:37 PM

FK452 is a summer tire so it's going to suck in the snow.

nogoodname 12-28-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 869122)
i have falken 452's are those any good on snow? lol trustr me im not gonna drive in the snow unless i get stuck at work... or i want to play a bit

summer tire..lol.... what part of snow goes with summer?

LMBmikeZ 12-28-2010 04:50 PM

better question........what part of falken goes with tires!?!??? NOTHING

IMO and my experience falken will not be receiving another dime from me! I will save my money and always buy a better tires!.............which would be basically anything!

crash1369 12-28-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 869122)
i have falken 452's are those any good on snow? lol trustr me im not gonna drive in the snow unless i get stuck at work... or i want to play a bit

That means you will be driving in the snow so I would get snow tires now, before you regret it.

They call them Summer performance tires for a reason, and I don't think it's their stellar winter abilities or grip in the snow.

Red__Zed 12-28-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joka4411 (Post 867921)
Dont drive your z in the winter time at all, if you can afford to buy a pair of winter tires, then you can afford to buy a cheap used car to drive just in bad weather. Just my 2cents!!!!!


No one should ever own a Z without a second Vehicle.

I have a second vehicle, but see no real reason that a Z owner needs two cars. I've driven mine through snow with no issues.

370zproject 12-30-2010 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 869522)
I have a second vehicle, but see no real reason that a Z owner needs two cars. I've driven mine through snow with no issues.

stock tires?o.o


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