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Jeffblue 12-16-2010 07:14 AM

i drove my friends saab 900cs. WHOA that is different. its a cable clutch, that engages like ON the floor. talk about a weird feel.

Zaggeron 12-16-2010 07:25 AM

I think the issue is more that the 370z is hard to drive slowly in traffic situations. I believe this is primarily because of the awkward shift from 1-2 when at slow speeds. When driving in locations where you can give it some gas without hitting the car in front of you I find it easy to drive.

ImportConvert 12-16-2010 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 853121)
i drove my friends saab 900cs. WHOA that is different. its a cable clutch, that engages like ON the floor. talk about a weird feel.

Sounds like it's a cable clutch that needs adjusting. I love cable-clutches. They don't have the issues hydraulic ones do. People like to whine about how "hard" to press they are, though.

spearfish25 12-16-2010 07:28 AM

The Z is not "hard to drive" at all. An 18-wheeler with 22 forward gears is "hard to drive". The Z just magnifies clumsy clutch action and shifting, which becomes apparent by the herky-jerky shifts you'll get.

On the Z, the clutch and transmission require some finesse to make the gear transitions smooth. If you're stalling the car, you're missing some core fundamentals to manual transmission operation. If you'd like to try driving a manual car that's truely 'hard to drive', go try out an early Jaguar X-type manual. The clutch was fully engaged about 1/4" off the floor. If you stall the Z, you'll never get the X-type moving.

Jeffblue 12-16-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 853123)
Sounds like it's a cable clutch that needs adjusting. I love cable-clutches. They don't have the issues hydraulic ones do. People like to whine about how "hard" to press they are, though.

definitely was hard to press, but there was definitely a feel to it.

weird thing was the way the pedal traveled. maybe the car was messed up. but 3 pedals were totally loose. like you could push them down 2 inches with no resistance and nothing would happen (no gas, no clutch release, no brake) then you would get resistance, and each pedal would start to do what it was supposed to do. at first i thought it was the lightest clutch in the world. very strange, never seen anything like that on a car.

i didn't stall it though. he was like 'everyone who drives this car stalls it the first time.' i think he had more fun driving my Z though. i had SRM on when he test drove it and he was like WTF?! which i guess i could see being weird if you didn't expect it.

ImportConvert 12-16-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 853136)
definitely was hard to press, but there was definitely a feel to it.

weird thing was the way the pedal traveled. maybe the car was messed up. but 3 pedals were totally loose. like you could push them down 2 inches with no resistance and nothing would happen (no gas, no clutch release, no brake) then you would get resistance, and each pedal would start to do what it was supposed to do. at first i thought it was the lightest clutch in the world. very strange, never seen anything like that on a car.

i didn't stall it though. he was like 'everyone who drives this car stalls it the first time.' i think he had more fun driving my Z though. i had SRM on when he test drove it and he was like WTF?! which i guess i could see being weird if you didn't expect it.

Yes, it has problems. Not normal.

Jeffblue 12-16-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 853142)
Yes, it has problems. Not normal.

hmm i should let him know. any idea what that would be symptomatic of?

ImportConvert 12-16-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 853143)
hmm i should let him know. any idea what that would be symptomatic of?

Loose/stretched throttle cable, same for clutch, and needing new hydraulics or to bleed the hydraulics or adjust the drums for the brakes, depending.

Again, just a SWAG as to the issue, but that's jacked up sounding to me.

Jeffblue 12-16-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 853149)
Loose/stretched throttle cable, same for clutch, and needing new hydraulics or to bleed the hydraulics or adjust the drums for the brakes, depending.

Again, just a SWAG as to the issue, but that's jacked up sounding to me.

haha, interesting. i guess he doesn't really care. the car has been in his family as the old crappy car since 1994. It was written off as a total loss when someone drove into it while parked. they took the check, fixed the car, and it runs ok. i guess he'll just drive it till the wheels fall off. tlk about getting your moneys worth out of a car.

shadoquad 12-16-2010 08:14 AM

I've never had trouble driving this car, and I've driven manuals for 15 years now. I've driven sports cars for most of that time, plus one small SUV and one sedan (these are just the manuals, I've driven plenty of autos as well). It's not "hot knife through butter" like a Mazda short shifter, but it's not Mt Everest either.

Jeffblue 12-16-2010 08:34 AM

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It's not "hot knife through butter" like a Mazda short shifter, but it's not Mt Everest either.

that is where you are mistaken my friend.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...2&d=1292510050


15 years of driving shado? how old are you. you said you were 17 with nice boobs and a sexy butt

Hijinks 12-16-2010 08:41 AM

Been driving manual Hondas for the last four years and never stalled the Z once. I agree it took me a couple hours of driving to be smooth if a passenger is in the car.

I really think launching a four wheel drive manual is MUCH harder than the Z. My friend has had his Subaru for two years and still struggles to get good starts off the line.

ClemsonWill 12-16-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by memorylasts (Post 853085)
Clutch is a bit snappy in comparison to other clutches I've driven...and randomly test driven. But I dont think it is a hard car to drive.

I think this is a great way to explain it. I feel the clutch is somewhat "snappy" as well. Specifically when changing from 1st to 2nd. It's not hard to drive though. Just takes a bit of getting used to it.

shadoquad 12-16-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 853180)
that is where you are mistaken my friend.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...2&d=1292510050


15 years of driving shado? how old are you. you said you were 17 with nice boobs and a sexy butt

Yeah, I've been driving since I was 2.

kenchan 12-16-2010 09:50 AM

the biggest difference between my Z and my other MT cars that i currently own and have owned in the past is the delay in the throttle input.

it takes considerably longer for the car to respond to your input. that throws me off a little bit each time i get in my Z after a week of driving my other cars. this is another reason why i keep SRM on becuase im tired of timing myself a fraction earlier than my other MT cars just to setup a downshift.


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