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JayYoon 12-16-2010 01:21 AM

sync rev
 
So how is this? do you guys actually use it often?

sojirovskensi 12-16-2010 01:32 AM

no unless my gf rides

JayYoon 12-16-2010 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sojirovskensi (Post 853001)
no unless my gf rides

So you hardly ever use it?

Wait, isnt sync rev just down shift for u?

sojirovskensi 12-16-2010 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 853007)
So you hardly ever use it?

Wait, isnt sync rev just down shift for u?

when you make turns, rev match helps!

JayYoon 12-16-2010 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sojirovskensi (Post 853009)
when you make turns, rev match helps!

So like when ur going 45mph and ur going make a right turn... going from 5th gear to 2nd gear makes it easier?

sojirovskensi 12-16-2010 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 853013)
So like when ur going 45mph and ur going make a right turn... going from 5th gear to 2nd gear makes it easier?

exactly

JayYoon 12-16-2010 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sojirovskensi (Post 853019)
exactly

If I am correct, syn rev button is right next to emergency button?
Do you always have syn rev turned on?

sojirovskensi 12-16-2010 01:50 AM

always turned off!
I prefer no auto-controlled manual

JayYoon 12-16-2010 01:54 AM

do u even have vdc turned off?

sojirovskensi 12-16-2010 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 853035)
do u even have vdc turned off?

nooooooooooooo!
i only turn it off when i want to have a little fun.

JayYoon 12-16-2010 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sojirovskensi (Post 853040)
nooooooooooooo!
i only turn it off when i want to have a little fun.

does it really make that big difference? if so how?

houkouonchi 12-16-2010 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 853041)
does it really make that big difference? if so how?

I have seen VDC activate for me shifting from 1st -> 2nd gear when doing hard acceleration a couple times. That is why I turn it off if I am doing full-out acceleration.

SVTNate 12-16-2010 02:47 AM

I use it all the time when engine braking for red lights or traffic, but when I'm driving my other car I have to remind myself to rev match the old fashioned way (right foot) sometimes :)

Mine is always turned on.

houkouonchi 12-16-2010 02:53 AM

As for sync rev I almost never use it. I probably would if I was in a mountain-type of road where I am going down hill and uphill with a lot of turns but in general not doing the throttle blip for downshifting urself kind of takes the fun out of driving for me (my dad liked this feature though).

Also I was kind of annoyed when down shifting when going to a stop light a lot of times the thing would rev like I was going into second (or first) when a lot of times I don't and I am going just to neutral and breaking so it was doing unnecessary throttle blips. I think it was just the engine sound which made me feel un-easy when that happened (throttle blip when I didn't want it) is another reason I always drive with it off.

kenchan 12-16-2010 07:13 AM

Mine is on all the time not that I can't heel and toe though. Just a convenience thing. Its funny cause my right foot is positioned on the brake pedal for heel and toe yet I just let the car blip.

WhiskeyHotel 12-16-2010 07:33 AM

Always ON for me.

JayYoon 12-16-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 853120)
Mine is on all the time not that I can't heel and toe though. Just a convenience thing. Its funny cause my right foot is positioned on the brake pedal for heel and toe yet I just let the car blip.

lol for daily drive u try to heel and toe? lol?

EazyD 12-16-2010 12:42 PM

I leave it on. I like how it revs if I downshift coming to a light next to people :) It's also good for when you are getting used to the shifter, you know right away if you're going into the wrong gear (i.e. from 5th to 2nd instead of 5th to 4th) because it will rev immediately as the sensors see you go into that gear.

You can turn it on or off by holding the button down. The button reads "S-MODE" and passengers will say "what's that!" and you have to tell them the boring truth that it doesn't automatically lower the car and turn rocket boosters on :shakes head:

Holliday 12-16-2010 01:00 PM

Mine stays on all the time :tup:

Mt Tam I am 12-16-2010 02:27 PM

Sync rev I leave on most of the time. I still like to heel toe it just to not get rusty. Surprisingly I can go from one mode to another without any problem.

VDC I prefer off, as I trigger it without any need in my opinion. I turn it off and it constantly lights up anyway, and I think what on earth it is trying to save me from. I am hoping the new sways fix this.

tsolin01 12-16-2010 02:30 PM

Mine's on all the time. It's a little weird at first but I think it's a great feature. It's trained me not to wiggle the shifter a lot, which I sometimes do when I put it in neutral to slow down or something. To keep it from revving when coming to stops at a light, I just leave it in gear with the clutch in until i'm slow enough that it doesn't really rev anymore. I gotta admit though, I like hearing the revs hehe

ProfessorDave 12-16-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 853412)
lol for daily drive u try to heel and toe? lol?

I heel toe everyday! Is that wrong:icon14:? Nothing like a good, loud blip to make me smile and wake up the drivers next to me, passers by, small woodland creatures, etc.

xdeslitx 12-16-2010 02:51 PM

SRM is always on for me. Love that feature. Used to heel toe in my old car but I'm just too lazy now (getting older haha)

onzedge 12-16-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 853564)
I heel toe everyday! Is that wrong:icon14:? Nothing like a good, loud blip to make me smile and wake up the drivers next to me, passers by, small woodland creatures, etc.

I am in agreement with the Professor. Why even have a manual transmission if you don't heel-toe?

Syncro-rev is interesting though. It is, however, more of a parlor trick than useful.

kenchan 12-16-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 853412)
lol for daily drive u try to heel and toe? lol?

:icon14:

i dont try, i do heel and toe my honda fit during the commute. like i mentioned earlier, if you cant heel and toe, you cant 'drive' MT.

nuts4nissan09 12-16-2010 03:07 PM

SRM-always on for me
 
I have tried driving with and without the SRM. It kind of annoyed me at first, but then I learned to work with it and have just left it on. It seems to help smooth shifts up and down. I really find it useful when charging hard into a curve and need a quick downshift. Love it in the mountains!

shabarivas 12-16-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 853584)
I am in agreement with the Professor. Why even have a manual transmission if you don't heel-toe?

Syncro-rev is interesting though. It is, however, more of a parlor trick than useful.

Do you have SRM? Have you EVER driven your car near its potential? I can promise you that SRM on will yield better times for most drivers out there (except the 1% of pros who just make one turn and know EXACTLY how the car is going to react to all their inputs) - as in - picture this - brake from 120 -> 30 going into turn 11 @ infineon - one mis-blip on your end = into a wall or facing traffic --- now does that mean everyone w/out SRM is bound to be a shitty driver in these circumstances? No.

SRM is like Dual Clutch gear boxes - initially you have the folks who just refuse to try it just cus its "new" and "takes away from driving" ... but look today at how many cars are coming out w/ Low end dual clutch cars for 30k - Times are a-changing and those who refuse to evolve will have the pleasure of facing Darwin's wrath - or in this case the rear end of a faster car...

kenchan 12-16-2010 03:43 PM

the only time i hate SRM is when i mis-shift during an up shift while gently pushing the gear into the wrong gate at an angle. the rpm blips anyway and so i need to pause for a moment before making my 2nd attempt where as my other MT would just lock me out of that gate.

its my fault that i dont drive the Z as much as i want, but that's the only downside ive felt about SRM.

radek7633 12-17-2010 09:21 AM

Okay, ignorant question if you gents may entertain.

Downshifting to stop? to me it seems like it is just easier to pop into neutral and use the brakes... what are the advantages and disadvantages of downshifting to stop?

tsolin01 12-17-2010 09:29 AM

I pop into neutral and use the brakes also. Going downhill would be easier on the brakes to downshift and engine brake but you also run the risk of stupid people behind you that need to see your brake lights on to know that you're slowing down.

For regular stops I don't think it's worth it to put more wear on the engine but that's just my opinion.

Holliday 12-17-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by radek7633 (Post 854753)
Okay, ignorant question if you gents may entertain.

Downshifting to stop? to me it seems like it is just easier to pop into neutral and use the brakes... what are the advantages and disadvantages of downshifting to stop?

Downshifting can reduce brake pad wear, but not adding enough brakes can add more stress to the transmission. You can argue that either way I guess?

It also depends on the situation at hand. I personally tend to use more brake but I do work my way down in gears as I come to a stop.

SyncRev sounds good too ;)

Here is a non-bias opinion from here: http://standardshift.com/faq.html

Stopping
Downshifting without touching the brakes to stop is not recommended, the person behind you babbling on the phone might not notice you without your brake lights on, especially at night. You can stay in your current gear down to around 5-15 mph quite easily; at that point, put the car in neutral and use the brakes to come to a complete stop or you can downshift and apply the brakes as well. Downshifting into first is not recommended. For safety reasons, you shouldn't keep the gar in gear while waiting at a light. If a car hits you from behind, you foot will be off the clutch, which means your car would jump forward and possibly end up in the middle of an intersection.

SVTNate 12-17-2010 11:30 AM

Keeping off the clutch and in neutral at a light is bad advice IMO.

Motorcyclists all know that you keep in gear and check your mirrors at a red light. While a car is much larger, I think it's a good idea to practice the same.

If someone is barreling down on you at a red light and you're at the front, you can

a) take a hard left or right along the crosswalk
b) check for cross traffic, dump clutch, GTFO
c) possibly jump the curb (not too likely in a Z)
d) take it right up the ***, which is what you'd do sitting there in neutral anyway

The point is that watching your six and keeping the car in gear means you have options.

onzedge 12-17-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SVTNate (Post 855010)
Keeping off the clutch and in neutral at a light is bad advice IMO.

Motorcyclists all know that you keep in gear and check your mirrors at a red light. While a car is much larger, I think it's a good idea to practice the same.

If someone is barreling down on you at a red light and you're at the front, you can

a) take a hard left or right along the crosswalk
b) check for cross traffic, dump clutch, GTFO
c) possibly jump the curb (not too likely in a Z)
d) take it right up the ***, which is what you'd do sitting there in neutral anyway

The point is that watching your six and keeping the car in gear means you have options.

Excellent advice -- my original driving instructor (in 1974) taught me this when I was mastering a manual trans in a 1969 Datsun 510.

mick 12-17-2010 11:39 AM

i used if for about a week after getting the car and turned it off ever since. it's a good feature people who frequently downshift but i don't and if you don't downshift much, the z drives better with it turned off.

kenchan 12-17-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radek7633 (Post 854753)
Okay, ignorant question if you gents may entertain.

Downshifting to stop? to me it seems like it is just easier to pop into neutral and use the brakes... what are the advantages and disadvantages of downshifting to stop?

the only time my car is in neutral is when the car is stopped for the light or starting the car or crawling in traffic and dont want engine braking, etc.

i usually only downshift to 3rd gear in the Z (down to about 1.5K rpm) to a stop because there's more torque from engine braking in 2nd and sometimes requires more braking to stop the car. if it's a a downhill i will use 2nd.

bascially i like my car in gear at all times while moving so that i have constant control of the car. if im in neutral it will take me a split second before i can get the car moving again. that i dont like.

as a side effect which i dont really care for, you will waste more fuel in neutral to idle the engine than fuel-cut while the engine is spinnin in gear.


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