i think they are ugly too. looks just like the v6 plus 2 lights and a badge. nothing really special about it.. its like. oh look another mustang.. but! to each their own.

Does your definition of bolt-ons include some high-rpm engine internals or nitrous or something? If not, then no. Not happening. Full bolt-on Z's seem to be running high 12's on a tire.

You can only get just so much from a 3.7L V6 at a certain RPM with a certain amount of head-flow.

Aren't the heads on the VQ37 pretty good to begin with?

Please tell us the hidden secrets. :rolleyes:

So far all the NISMO has proven to us is that it's a 370Z Base + Sport with body kit and marginally better suspension.

Jnaut has run a 12.30 on an RE-11 tire. He has LTHs, CBE, Stillen G3 (I think), clutch, flywheel, 4.08 gear, probably a pulley and maybe a couple of other things that, IMO, qualify as "bolt-on." That's with a 1.8s 60'.

IF he can run a MT ET Street without shattering the rear end, snapping an axle, or delaminating the driveshaft, I think he could dip into the high 11s on a 1.6x 60'.

I'd say the heads are pretty well optimized but we'll never know for sure until someone cracks VVEL.

if modded Z's start beating modded 5.0's on the drag strip, ford is doing something wrong.

And there's where I disagree. You can't compare the two trim levels because you get so much more out of the premium Mustang than you would the base Z. Leather, heated seats, bluetooth, premium sound, Sync, etc.

You can get the Mustang equivalent of a "Touring" 370Z starting around 30k invoice.

I think the car is priced pretty competitively. Compared to my 370Z, I paid about $2k less and get a lot more in terms of options and creature comforts. It's gobs cheaper than the Challenger and Camaro which is what really matters, and it compares nicely price-wise to cars outside of it's class. All I know is you know Ford has done something right when the people buying the car are coming from every direction... from Camaros to 370Zs to BMW M's... It's a good car.

Nissan did the same thing with the Z. How many former BMW and Porsche owners do we have here? That says a lot for the car, IMO.

the head flow comment i agree with, but i hear our heads are pretty good to begin with....

and yes with no internals or nitrous...just full bolts+ gears and slicksi think the 370Z will see a very high 11. i mean theres already a 12.3 on streets...

i agree with this fully!

The problem is the 12.3 is already on FULL bolt ons and in ideal conditions with a great launch. So that extra 3 tenths has to come from the launch. I have a feeling the weakest link in the drivetrain will be found while attempting to go for that 11.90. It is going to have to be done with ET streets on the back and some skinnies up front.

Now, if the rear end can take that kind of abuse, we're in business. :driving:

Though Jnaut is working on his rear-mounted turbo setup so I bet when he hits the 11s it's going to be with the turbo.

maybe modded vs stock 5.0...but after mod vs mod the no way. The 5.0 is a fawking caged beast...

what is the trap speed on that 12.3 run?

111mph which is indicative of an 11sec pass

111.69. That really shows you he's making all his time on the short-end of the track.

his highest trap is 113

But only just. With a 1.6 60' you might be able to run an 11.9x with a 111 trap.