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370zproject 11-28-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kcuba370z (Post 826230)
I'm Disappointed

thats what she said

KillerBee370 11-28-2010 11:32 PM

meh

redrider 11-28-2010 11:41 PM

I may check out future episodes during the next few weeks but so far this show is a dud. 16 minutes watching amateurs drifting? Please...:shakes head:

370zproject 11-28-2010 11:42 PM

what did they say bout the Z?

ThoriumHotdog 11-28-2010 11:52 PM

I haven't fired it up yet but it sounds like the show hasn't gotten any better since the first episode. If they continue to piss off the owners of each car they feature they'll end up with a nice audience of 3, their moms.

BennytheBlade 11-29-2010 12:13 AM

Not sure there moms would watch.

Lemers 11-29-2010 12:22 AM

I thought the down hill evo drive would be fun.

Jamaica 11-29-2010 12:54 AM

the evo was somewhat interesting especially with the track time on a stock evo.

shoopajae10 11-29-2010 01:17 AM

it was quite boring and stupid, indeed.

shadow2k 11-29-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 826288)
what did they say bout the Z?

Nothing. The segment was about drifting, not about the Z. They barely managed to mention the name of the car. No commentary about it, no lap around the test track for comparison.

I think the dog summed up my feelings about the show perfectly.

ThoriumHotdog 11-29-2010 01:36 AM

How many Ford or Chevy commercials did they have during commercial breaks?

Boost_lee 11-29-2010 02:06 AM

blah, at least there was a blue one lol

370zproject 11-29-2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow2k (Post 826412)
Nothing. The segment was about drifting, not about the Z. They barely managed to mention the name of the car. No commentary about it, no lap around the test track for comparison.

I think the dog summed up my feelings about the show perfectly.

:shakes head:

AllForTheCash 11-29-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 826254)
thats what she said

:bowrofl:

crash1369 11-29-2010 06:47 AM

It was funny when he said Rednecks and burnouts go together like Whiskey and hunting, but the hour it cost me to get there wasn't worth the chuckle it brought

spearfish25 11-29-2010 07:04 AM

The producers need to think "what would a Z owner (or whatever car is being driven) and the general male viewer want to see?". It's not a blind guy trying to drift. It's a f'ing hot lap in the Z so there is a time on the board.

And it's Vaaaaantaaaaage. Not VANtage. I'm ashamed of being American sometimes.

m4a1mustang 11-29-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 826481)
The producers need to think "what would a Z owner (or whatever car is being driven) and the general male viewer want to see?". It's not a blind guy trying to drift. It's a f'ing hot lap in the Z so there is a time on the board.

And it's Vaaaaantaaaaage. Not VANtage. I'm ashamed of being American sometimes.

Pronunciation changes from place to place. All of the Vantage owners I have met call it the "VANtage."

Take Toyota for example. It's pronounced differently in Japan than it is in the rest of the world. It's not that big of a deal. :tup:

It's stupid to feel ashamed over something so petty.

SeeyaBud86 11-29-2010 08:54 AM

Yea I was really ashamed that they didn't take it around the track...
On the real Top Gear the Z was faster around the track than the Evo. It kinda felt like they brushed the Z off, like it wasn't that big of a deal. I would say crappy hosts, but only 2 of them are. I like Tanner, hes worthy of being on the show but they need to get the other two out of there for real enthusiasts. I think its kinda funny when Rutledge and Ferrara test out cars they get the auto versions. They need to :gtfo2:. Ken Block? Even Jay Leno? So many other choices. I'd rather see good driving than be entertained with jokes. Afterall thats what the show is about.

spearfish25 11-29-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 826519)
Pronunciation changes from place to place. All of the Vantage owners I have met call it the "VANtage."

Take Toyota for example. It's pronounced differently in Japan than it is in the rest of the world. It's not that big of a deal. :tup:

It's stupid to feel ashamed over something so petty.

No, you're stupid!

m4a1mustang 11-29-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 826527)
No, you're stupid!

I'm telling!!!!!!!!

flashburn 11-29-2010 09:03 AM

Eh, I didn't completely hate the episode. The Vantage segment was boring, but the Evo segment was pretty fun. Although it seemed a bit setup... way too many fixed camera shots, and the whole "jump over the Evo" shot. The Z segment was pretty mindless and stupid, but hey, at least we got to see our car in a US TV show for 15 minutes. I can only hope that the Z gets some real coverage in a later episode.

Host wise, I agree with most, Tanner is okay, and the bearded fat guy is annoying and unfunny. I don't dislike Adam Ferrara though, he was good in Rescue Me, but he isn't really right for the show. He wouldn't be too bad if the show was minus the bearded fat guy and plus another experienced car guy.

nurseryboy 11-29-2010 09:36 AM

I actually like the show. Sure, it's not nearly as good at the Euro Top Gear, but if you look back at their first episodes (even first few seasons), they weren't very good either. It took a while for them to get into a groove and build the group dynamic, and it's going to take these guys some time too. While watching it from that perspective (knowing they're growing), it's actually a pretty good show. I think it's much better than the Australian Top Gear. That was painful to watch in my opinion, although I still did because it's a car show. I think, given some time, Top Gear US will get much better. Probably never on par with the Euro one, but that doesn't mean it still can't be good and fun to watch.

Mt Tam I am 11-29-2010 10:51 AM

:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:I was looking forward to this episode for a week, only to be offered this rooster sucking episode. We don't even talk about racing on the streets here at the 370Z.com, yet they pretend to be racing on the city streets, avoiding helicopters or skiers, etc.
They have at least proven that it takes no skill to drive a car (especially an auto) fast in a straight line. Recall, Tanner lost the Lambo speed test to two novice yahoos. Referring to Fat guy Rutledge Wood and not so funny comedian Adam Ferrara.

I want to see two drivers compete with the same type of car against one another. This requires two experienced drivers. Instead of a celebrity guest driver bring in Jeremy Clarkson or one of the Top Gear hosts as drivers from around the world, and compete with Tanner Foust. Something to show off these high end cars handling ability, not just power.
Rating: Boo :thumbsdown:

ThoriumHotdog 11-29-2010 12:03 PM

Can a V12 Vantage beat a V8 Vantage?! FIND OUT NOW! Give me a break.

Why do they constantly do comparisons with cars from the same manufacturer? Wasn't the top speed challenge all Ferraris or Lambos? I remember wondering why they didn't mix it up a little but I bet I know why.

zmyride 11-29-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 826706)
Can a V12 Vantage beat a V8 Vantage?! FIND OUT NOW! Give me a break.

I totally agree. That bearded guy was annoying. It's like him saying a 370Z is underpowered compared to a GTR? Let's drive a GTR and prove how slow a 370Z is. Totally retarded.

ThoriumHotdog 11-29-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zmyride (Post 826851)
I totally agree. That bearded guy was annoying. It's like him saying a 370Z is underpowered compared to a GTR? Let's drive a GTR and prove how slow a 370Z is. Totally retarded.

I didn't see a point to that at all. It's like they're afraid to actually compare cars from different auto manufacturers.

VCuomo 11-29-2010 01:36 PM

You guys who are bitching about TG America know that TG BBC also has pretty lame segments (and I could definitely see them doing the "blind guy tries drifting" segment too), and that TG is primarily an entertainment show (not a hardcore technical show) - right?

At least they haven't yet had a long segment with Tanner fawning over - err, excuse me, interviewing - Tom Cruise and Carmen Dias (who are superb drivers, aren't they?), like the segment of TG BBC that I saw recently. Sheesh, talk about lame...

chippy 11-29-2010 02:00 PM

The TG Aus review was good, worth checking out on UTube if you haven't seen it already :tup:

ThoriumHotdog 11-29-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 826856)
You guys who are bitching about TG America know that TG BBC also has pretty lame segments (and I could definitely see them doing the "blind guy tries drifting" segment too), and that TG is primarily an entertainment show (not a hardcore technical show) - right?

At least they haven't yet had a long segment with Tanner fawning over - err, excuse me, interviewing - Tom Cruise and Carmen Dias (who are superb drivers, aren't they?), like the segment of TG BBC that I saw recently. Sheesh, talk about lame...

Yes, entertainment, something missing from the Top Gear US.

The original Top Gear actually had a blind man on. They gave him the chance to drive again and to give him an experience he wouldn't forget. He did high speed passes around the TG test track and even beat a few people who had full use of their eyes. It wasn't just a stunt to show how "wacky" they were either... Go watch that episode and compare if you'd like.

Top Gear is about entertainment and they do set up a lot of their challenges and stunts but the key here are the hosts. They're not made of wood and they actually know about cars. They are generally entertaining unlike the three goons we have in the US.

All the complaints are about the hosts for the most part. The rest of the issues come from the show relying heavily on advertisers. Then theres the total lack of imagination of the producers. We're still waiting for an actual comparison between cars or even an actual review of the cars they drive. Not some forced "the car looks like it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down" one liner or some poor reference to a movie that maybe a 10th of the audience will get.

I stand by what I said on the TG blog. It looks like the US producers sent an intern into a bar and hired the first three douchebags that hit on her.

VCuomo 11-29-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 826911)
Yes, entertainment, something missing from the Top Gear US.

The original Top Gear actually had a blind man on. They gave him the chance to drive again and to give him an experience he wouldn't forget. He did high speed passes around the TG test track and even beat a few people who had full use of their eyes. It wasn't just a stunt to show how "wacky" they were either... Go watch that episode and compare if you'd like.

Top Gear is about entertainment and they do set up a lot of their challenges and stunts but the key here are the hosts. They're not made of wood and they actually know about cars. They are generally entertaining unlike the three goons we have in the US.

All the complaints are about the hosts for the most part. The rest of the issues come from the show relying heavily on advertisers. Then theres the total lack of imagination of the producers. We're still waiting for an actual comparison between cars or even an actual review of the cars they drive. Not some forced "the car looks like it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down" one liner or some poor reference to a movie that maybe a 10th of the audience will get.

I stand by what I said on the TG blog. It looks like the US producers sent an intern into a bar and hired the first three douchebags that hit on her.

I agree with you on the hosts thing, with the exception of Tanner - he certainly knows cars and how to drive them. The other two - well, I don't see what they bring to the table.

sonic370 11-29-2010 05:39 PM

imo i thought the entire show was a joke... the next time i go racing down a snow covered mountain i'll be sure to borrow an evo.. it was an insult to let
some guest star track a yugo!! and then not track the 370...


someone should start a poll on why they bought the 370..
in might be fun to see where drifting ranks at on the list...

as one guy said best part of the show was the dog at the end

VCuomo 11-29-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 827201)
imo i thought the entire show was a joke... the next time i go racing down a snow covered mountain i'll be sure to borrow an evo.. it was an insult to let
some guest star track a yugo!! and then not track the 370...


someone should start a poll on why they bought the 370..
in might be fun to see where drifting ranks at on the list...

as one guy said best part of the show was the dog at the end

Just like TG BBC, TG USA will be tracking that same Yugo (actually, I think it's a Hyundai, don't really remember though) using a different guest each week, and the track time goes up on their tally board in the studio. There's no intention to compare the "Yugo" to any other car. And the "Yugo" will be the only car that remains the same from week to week this season.

And yeah, the guide dog peeing was the best part of the show - I bet TG BBC will run that clip on their show!

sonic370 11-29-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 827256)
Just like TG BBC, TG USA will be tracking that same Yugo (actually, I think it's a Hyundai, don't really remember though) using a different guest each week, and the track time goes up on their tally board in the studio. There's no intention to compare the "Yugo" to any other car. And the "Yugo" will be the only car that remains the same from week to week this season.

And yeah, the guide dog peeing was the best part of the show - I bet TG BBC will run that clip on their show!

nice how would you like to run into that car at a used car lot:eekdance:

fins 11-29-2010 08:00 PM

was good advertisement for the EVO. everything else seemed flat...

whoady4shoady 11-29-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 826387)
the evo was somewhat interesting especially with the track time on a stock evo.

I was so excited to see the stigs track time for the z compared to the evo. They clearly said they would test every new car they got on the track, yet they put no time up for the z. That really pissed me off.

ThoriumHotdog 11-29-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady (Post 827550)
I was so excited to see the stigs track time for the z compared to the evo. They clearly said they would test every new car they got on the track, yet they put no time up for the z. That really pissed me off.

I bet the put up a time next week but fail to show the lap.

shadoquad 11-29-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 826978)
I agree with you on the hosts thing, with the exception of Tanner - he certainly knows cars and how to drive them. The other two - well, I don't see what they bring to the table.

The ":iagree:" emote does not strongly enough convey my concurrence to this statement.

fairladyZ34 11-29-2010 09:26 PM

i like that the photographic aspects are the same, i like the shots and stuff. the editing or what its technically called

toxik 11-29-2010 09:29 PM

you guys complain way too much.

I liked the show, because I'm sick of seeing shows about Hot Rods and muscle cars on Speed Channel. At least this show features cars I like, and it's not even that bad...

shadoquad 11-29-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik (Post 827720)
you guys complain way too much.

I liked the show, because I'm sick of seeing shows about Hot Rods and muscle cars on Speed Channel. At least this show features cars I like, and it's not even that bad...

It's like when the U.S. started its version of "The Office". I cannot enjoy it, because the original British version was better and more intelligently written. Same thing here. It's an imitator. Coming fresh to it, it's not so bad.


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