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sluggoZ 03-15-2009 09:00 AM

Is there or is there not a problem with the oil cooler?
 
Hey everyone...
My first post here....Is this true about Nissan working on upgrading the oil cooler because of poor early track performanceshttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Z/question.gif

ssqpolo 03-15-2009 11:36 AM

ur almost there. this car is in need of an oil cooler because temps rise too high with hard driving. so if ur a big track guy, then an oil cooler is a must. otherwise, ive driven mine pretty hard here and there and i also run on the highway all the time with no problems. most likely in future models, nissan will provide an oil cooler in the sports package. right now u can get one from nissan thru nismo. either that or there are several aftermarket options

RCZ 03-15-2009 11:38 AM

There is a nismo one?

FairmanZ 03-15-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ssqpolo (Post 43881)
most likely in future models, nissan will provide an oil cooler in the sports package. right now u can get one from nissan thru nismo. either that or there are several aftermarket options

As of this date, I'm pretty sure that Nissan via NISMO does NOT offer oil coolers for sale to the public. I think this would be the best solution for those concerned about warranty. But I can find no listing of it as an option anywhere, including Nissan Japan's website where they show all the 370z NISMO S-Tune optional parts. Many of these parts are not yet available in the US, but no oil cooler is listed.

Click on this link and then select "FairladyZ" to see what I'm talking about.

日産:オプショナルパーツ/NISMO STREET PARTS

Nissan knows this is an issue for the track, but not the street. Car and Driver stated their test vehicle in their original test review had an oil cooler and diff cooler installed, as did other early cars given to the press (Edmunds points this out too). But production models do not have them yet and I wouldn't count on it as 2010 standard feature. So the only current solution is the aftermarket.

semtex 03-15-2009 02:55 PM

Which begs the question -- Which oil cooler did Nissan install on these test vehicles?

FairmanZ 03-15-2009 03:12 PM

^Good question.

It was Edmunds that said you can get 'em from NISMO. But I'm not sure if this is really correct. This is a picture taken from the Edmunds website, it shows part of one of the coolers in question on their test car. Certainly doesn't look like a stock OEM install to me...

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1235729843

drmike 03-15-2009 03:21 PM

^ that looks like an oil cooler installation for the differential to me.
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RCZ 03-15-2009 03:53 PM

any cooler with decent capacity should do the trick guys.

370sed 03-15-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 43919)
Which begs the question -- Which oil cooler did Nissan install on these test vehicles?

This is the real question whether you get that particular cooler or not, it'll give the requisite sizing, best pacement, etc. needed.

frost 03-15-2009 05:05 PM

I'm still wondering what people in the really hot areas (like here in phoenix) will see in the summer. I mean, when it's 120 outside, and you're sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic with the AC cranked, will it be a problem? I'm not totally convinced that it will be a problem, but I will be keeping an eye out.

dad 03-15-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 43950)
I'm still wondering what people in the really hot areas (like here in phoenix) will see in the summer. I mean, when it's 120 outside, and you're sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic with the AC cranked, will it be a problem? I'm not totally convinced that it will be a problem, but I will be keeping an eye out.

Wouldn't the coolant moving thru the A/C radiator, help cool the engine radiator? What I'm trying to say-Coldness from the A/C radiator, passed on, by air flow, to the engine radiator!

Just my 2 cents-But with this engine having heating problems, I think it would be foolish not to install an oil cooler! Track or not!

frost 03-15-2009 05:36 PM

^ naw, if you want to lower your engine temp, you have to turn the AC off, or even turn the heat on.

Jasonviper 03-15-2009 06:16 PM

Shouldnt be a problem ^ I have G37s and here in south Texas we got up to 107F and I drove all day mixed highway and bumber to bumber city traffic and neither the car or my self broke a sweat, I was sitting nice and cool inside! Limo tint does help tho.

FairmanZ 03-15-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drmike (Post 43930)
^ that looks like an oil cooler installation for the differential to me.
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Yes, the press test cars had both differential coolers and oil coolers. Makes one wonder what's up with the differntial as well. Hmmm...

sluggoZ 03-15-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 43953)
Wouldn't the coolant moving thru the A/C radiator, help cool the engine radiator? What I'm trying to say-Coldness from the A/C radiator, passed on, by air flow, to the engine radiator!

Just my 2 cents-But with this engine having heating problems, I think it would be foolish not to install an oil cooler! Track or not!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...goZ/iagree.gif...it would be very foolish not to install a after-market oil cooler.

RCZ 03-15-2009 07:18 PM

If you arent going to track the car, you don't need a cooler. You can't push the car hard enough on the streets to get it to any sort of concerning temperature. I don't think that hot days will make a difference.. Guys that live in warmer temperature climates and dont track the car - be patient and don't waste money until someone actually confirms that you need a cooler. Its not just money either... installing a cooler when you don't need it just adds things that can go wrong...rock through the core, loose fitting - boom and your engine wont be covered under warranty.

ArtVandaleigh 03-16-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 43995)
If you arent going to track the car, you don't need a cooler. You can't push the car hard enough on the streets to get it to any sort of concerning temperature. I don't think that hot days will make a difference.. Guys that live in warmer temperature climates and dont track the car - be patient and don't waste money until someone actually confirms that you need a cooler. Its not just money either... installing a cooler when you don't need it just adds things that can go wrong...rock through the core, loose fitting - boom and your engine wont be covered under warranty.

Agreed.

arcticreaver 03-16-2009 05:08 PM

so if i'm just driving like normal it will not be a problem but if i take it to the tracks, it will?

semtex 03-16-2009 06:29 PM

Check out this thread I just found. Kinda funny, because they're discussing travisjb's thread on tracking the 370 and his oil temp issues.

New 370Z Overheating with mild track time.... - Bob Is The Oil Guy

370sed 03-17-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 44353)
Check out this thread I just found. Kinda funny, because they're discussing travisjb's thread on tracking the 370 and his oil temp issues.

New 370Z Overheating with mild track time.... - Bob Is The Oil Guy

That depends on your definition of 'funny' :drama: After all this, will anyone else dare try their 370Z at the track?

shumby 03-17-2009 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 43953)
Wouldn't the coolant moving thru the A/C radiator, help cool the engine radiator? What I'm trying to say-Coldness from the A/C radiator, passed on, by air flow, to the engine radiator!

Just my 2 cents-But with this engine having heating problems, I think it would be foolish not to install an oil cooler! Track or not!



DAD dissapointed. the "cooland that goes through the A/c Rad. is really quite hot that is where the heat is released from the system. Like the coils on the back of your fridge. lol

semtex 03-17-2009 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 370sed (Post 44570)
That depends on your definition of 'funny' :drama: After all this, will anyone else dare try their 370Z at the track?

Sure, after it's broken in, the oil is switched out for a quality ester-based synthetic, and a good oil cooler is installed. Why not?

dad 03-17-2009 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 43953)
Wouldn't the coolant moving thru the A/C radiator, help cool the engine radiator? What I'm trying to say-Coldness from the A/C radiator, passed on, by air flow, to the engine radiator!

Just my 2 cents-But with this engine having heating problems, I think it would be foolish not to install an oil cooler! Track or not!

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumby (Post 44577)
DAD dissapointed. the "cooland that goes through the A/c Rad. is really quite hot that is where the heat is released from the system. Like the coils on the back of your fridge. lol

My son in laws car(Saturn)would over heat, turn on the A/C, the engine would cool off!

dad 03-17-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 44353)
Check out this thread I just found. Kinda funny, because they're discussing travisjb's thread on tracking the 370 and his oil temp issues.

New 370Z Overheating with mild track time.... - Bob Is The Oil Guy

200 miles on the car, and he takes it to the track. The engine is no way broke in! That's foolish!

sluggoZ 03-18-2009 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 44647)
My son in laws car(Saturn)would over heat, turn on the A/C, the engine would cool off!

The rule of thumb is that if your stuck in crawling traffic...you shut off the A/C & radio & roll down the windows!
Turning on the A/C!!!! unreal!:nutswinger::wtf2::rofl2:

shumby 03-18-2009 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 44647)
My son in laws car(Saturn)would over heat, turn on the A/C, the engine would cool off!


Aparently on Saturen they do not obey the laws of thermaodynamics. :p

RCZ 03-18-2009 12:28 PM

This thread is tittering on the edge of a cliff. Lets keep it on subject. Its a good read for those who are considering the cooler.

You don't need one for daily driving or sitting in traffic.

You will need one for track sessions.


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