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Chan Chee Hoe 03-15-2009 05:03 AM

What oil.?
 
Hi everybody,good morning,I am from Singapore[am i the first Singaporean on this forum.?],i just brought the 370z Auto,i would like to know what oil is the car factory filled with.?Can i changed the oil to 100% syn Mobil 1 0-40,before i run in my car.?Anyway,what is the amount of oil in litres needed in the 370z.?Thanks,i look forward for the answers

kdo2milger 03-15-2009 06:53 AM

welcome to the forum, and i believe you are the first one from singapore here...

youre owners manual should give you the converted amount needed in liters, if not just google it from quarts to liters...

as far as changing the oil to any specific brand, well thats a personal preference, go with what you trust, but any 100% synthetic should be just fine. there is an oil poll here in the forum that would provide good info for you.

good luck, and enjoy the z!

Chan Chee Hoe 03-15-2009 06:58 AM

Thanks for the quick reply,but can i changed the oil at about 100 km mark.?,i don't trust the factory filled oil.

kdo2milger 03-15-2009 07:05 AM

heres the oil poll thread

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...hetic-oil.html

from what most say here they have been waiting till just after break in period...usually 1000 to 3000 miles...

Chan Chee Hoe 03-16-2009 07:44 AM

So no one know what oil is the factory filled with.?

semtex 03-16-2009 08:08 AM

It's Nissan Ester Engine Oil. Look in your owner's manual for specifics. There's a page called "Capacities and Recommended Fuel/Lubricants" that lists it.

355890 03-16-2009 08:39 AM

Royal Purple 5W30

arcticreaver 03-17-2009 02:08 AM

Mobil 1 0W-30, fasho!

semtex 03-17-2009 07:41 AM

^ You guys realize the VQ37VHR requires an ester-based oil, right? I'm not sure if RP and Mobil-1 are ester-based.

fillyv 03-17-2009 08:37 AM

I run AmsOil 0w30 signiture series full synthetic in my 350 with an ams oil filter. Works great. Ive also heard great things from royal purple. And yes 0w30 is recommended from ams oil. As well as 5w30. They have an app guide on thier website.

NIZMOZ 03-17-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 44579)
^ You guys realize the VQ37VHR requires an ester-based oil, right? I'm not sure if RP and Mobil-1 are ester-based.

Most Synthetics have Ester in them. Either way I would stay away from RP period.

kdo2milger 03-17-2009 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 44579)
^ You guys realize the VQ37VHR requires an ester-based oil, right? I'm not sure if RP and Mobil-1 are ester-based.

pdf pg 315 in the owners manual states;

*3: NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.

is it listed as required somewhere else?

shumby 03-17-2009 09:38 AM

^^^^ you are right recomended not required.

The Weapon 03-17-2009 05:42 PM

1 of the techs at the dealership said he went on a training course for the Z, told me that the Nissan Ester Oil they use is Fully Synthetic. I don't know if it "REALLY" is or not but he said they only use it on the 37OZ, G37 and GTR.

Anyhow it seems like a few people have had problems with ticking and engine noise when it's not used. There's a thread dated from 9/08 on my37 that talks about the oil as well.

JohnnyBgood 03-18-2009 04:03 PM

What don't you like about RP? I've used it in a few vehicles in the past. Is there something I should know?

semtex 03-18-2009 04:43 PM

Might want to check out this thread:
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...hetic-oil.html

joeyz10 03-18-2009 11:02 PM

I think you guys should not changed the oil before the recommended miles because I have read somewhere that the oil the factory used for the first time is different and is used and designed for break in period. You have to understand Nissan Engineers just did not make this cars without the exact research, computation, analysis and etc.....They went to school for this.....Just folow what they suggest...

Chan Chee Hoe 03-19-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 44592)
pdf pg 315 in the owners manual states;

*3: NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.

is it listed as required somewhere else?

This oil is not available here..

semtex 03-19-2009 06:21 PM

Not even at the Nissan dealership???

zsport1 03-19-2009 07:05 PM

http://www.biltuning.se/shop/images/...300Vcompet.jpg

drisko 03-19-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Weapon (Post 44713)
1 of the techs at the dealership said he went on a training course for the Z, told me that the Nissan Ester Oil they use is Fully Synthetic. I don't know if it "REALLY" is or not but he said they only use it on the 37OZ, G37 and GTR.

Anyhow it seems like a few people have had problems with ticking and engine noise when it's not used. There's a thread dated from 9/08 on my37 that talks about the oil as well.

I think the tech is wrong on this matter. I've heard the ester oil is a conventional oil with ester additives...and the GTR uses Mobil 1 (see Mobil 1 Selected as Factory and Service Fill Motor Oil for New Nissan GT-R Multi-Performance Supercar).

In any case, the PREMISE behind the ester oil is that it electrochemically bonds to the metal inside your engine, which makes it superior to conventional oil in terms of its ability to provide lubrication. Apparently, this is a very important property for the VVEL system, where the tolerances are tight and the oil experiences a lot of shearing forces that a normal conventional oil could not withstand that well. However, full synthetics like Mobil 1 already have been proven to work very well under extreme conditions, like very low/high temperatures, and high shearing forces. Full synthetics also flow faster/better than conventional oil and reduce friction inside the engine.

I did a lot of research on this and even called Mobil 1 and Nissan Corporate to confirm that Mobil 1 should be fine to use. I'm going to try it because I think it has benefits over the Nissan Ester Oil. I will be very suprised if I get any sort of VVEL "ticking" sound.

Besides, in our 370Zs I think we have the updated ECM software that takes care of the VVEL ticking noise.


^After doing some more research on esters, it seems like there may be some real needed benefits that the Nissan Ester Oil brings to the VVEL system (esp. in the long term). And what's more, since we don't know exactly what esters are in the oil, you can't just go out and buy a Group V synthetic ester oil and hope it does the same thing. So, until I find out EXACTLY what is in the oil I am probably just going to stick to using the Nissan Ester Oil instead of Mobil 1, or any other synthetic for that matter.

SoCal 370Z 03-19-2009 11:10 PM

Great find!

+rep points

Chan Chee Hoe 03-20-2009 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 45417)
Not even at the Nissan dealership???

Our dealer/service centre uses 'Shotgun' brand from Japan.

pehon 08-17-2011 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 45602)
Our dealer/service centre uses 'Shotgun' brand from Japan.

Chee hoe,

In the end, what oil did you use? I am collecting my preloved 370z next week and wanna know what grade of oil to use since i don't intend to go back to nissan.

DJ-of-E 08-17-2011 12:30 PM

You know there's something called "private message." NO need for thread necromancy.

tjlazer 08-17-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E (Post 1266247)
You know there's something called "private message." NO need for thread necromancy.

Well the rest of us might be interested in what the OP did! Whats wrong with that? We also like zombie movies too... ;)

11Thumper 08-17-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1266266)
Well the rest of us might be interested in what the OP did! Whats wrong with that? We also like zombie movies too... ;)

I prefer sunset walks on the beach... :happydance:

Rooster89 08-17-2011 05:33 PM

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/e...gif?1259371925

:shakes head:

But at least we know oil is a topic that will never fully die. I like royal purple. and I change it every 4.5k.


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