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ImportConvert 10-29-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 786687)
And how do they sound?? Nice? Any discernable power gain? Ford Racing has really stepped up their program. I wish Nismo did the same......

Ford Motor Company as a whole has stepped up their game. I would have to say that if I were handing out awards, without a doubt, they would get "most improved brand over the last decade".

cames4 10-29-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 783876)
2010 Nissan 370Z True Cost to Own ratings at Edmunds

You picked the car that costs the most to own within its market segment besides it's Infiniti twin. :roflpuke2:

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 787144)
All I saw was *justificationjustificationjustification---I bought what I wanted--justificationjustification*

If you bought what you wanted, who cares how much it cost? I'm not paying for it, and noone else on this board is either--you got what you want. Period. :tiphat:

Yes, but the larger point is this...... "it worked on my wife"... :-)

ImportConvert 10-29-2010 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cames4 (Post 787159)
Yes, but the larger point is this...... "it worked on my wife"... :-)

Well I hope she doesn't post/lurk here ;)

But I am curious, is she paying for it? Why justify it?

m4a1mustang 10-29-2010 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 787143)
Did I notice correctly, was it hopping on the shifts!? Ford has always been shy of putting enough tire on those cars. Maybe you can order the Boss rims when they come out, or use whatever tire they are using or something? 255's on that car is just stupid and I don't know why Ford insists on this kind of stuff. My WS6 wouldn't even sqeak a tire on shifts. It would lay waste to mustangs with similar power/weight simply because on the 1-2 shift they lost a car-length that they never came back from. You need good tires for the street, too!

The PZeros do really well on the street, they just don't hook up on track. The hop is pretty bad and costing me a lot of time. I'd probably run 12.60s without it.

The problem is with the soft factory lower and upper control arm bushings. I replaced the lowers but still haven't done the upper yet. I'll be adding an adjustable UCA and some LCA relocation brackets (for a more aggressive LCA angle to increase traction) and should be golden.

I'm also picking up a pair of rear wheels for some sticky drag tires.

ImportConvert 10-29-2010 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 787178)
The PZeros do really well on the street, they just don't hook up on track. The hop is pretty bad and costing me a lot of time. I'd probably run 12.60s without it.

The problem is with the soft factory lower and upper control arm bushings. I replaced the lowers but still haven't done the upper yet. I'll be adding an adjustable UCA and some LCA relocation brackets (for a more aggressive LCA angle to increase traction) and should be golden.

I'm also picking up a pair of rear wheels for some sticky drag tires.

Ah yeah. When I did upper/lowers on my 5.0, it made a world of difference. I would have thought that on the new 5.0's they had gotten it right by now, though. Does Ford Racing make a set, who's are you going with?

*When I worked for Ford, we thrashed a 2005 GT 5-speed. It would blow the tires off hitting 2nd gear. IIRC, those were PZero's on there as well, albeit something stupid like 235's, lol. Still, 100whp more needs more than just 20mm more tire.

m4a1mustang 10-29-2010 08:46 AM

I have Steeda lowers so I'll probably just use them.

The reason they don't do solid bushings is because they need to balance NVH/Comfort and performance. There is A LOT more noise from the rear end with the solid bushings and you feel more of the bumps, so they need to compromise. Which is fine. I'm willing to live with the added suspension noise but I know 80% of the consumer group isn't.

Any car that's sold to the masses will always have to make compromises.

And like I said, the car does really well on the street with the 255s. I only feel like the car is under-tired on the drag strip, but that's more a compound issue than anything else.

ImportConvert 10-29-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 787198)
I have Steeda lowers so I'll probably just use them.

The reason they don't do solid bushings is because they need to balance NVH/Comfort and performance. There is A LOT more noise from the rear end with the solid bushings and you feel more of the bumps, so they need to compromise. Which is fine. I'm willing to live with the added suspension noise but I know 80% of the consumer group isn't.

Any car that's sold to the masses will always have to make compromises.

And like I said, the car does really well on the street with the 255s. I only feel like the car is under-tired on the drag strip, but that's more a compound issue than anything else.

I had cheap poly bushings and tubular UCA/LCA on my 5.0 and it was no louder than stock. Maybe that car just made so much noise with the cam and headers, ORX, and Flows that it drowned out the sqeeks, lol.

However, this does lead me to ask...Do you wish it had a properly set-up IRS now :stirthepot: ?

m4a1mustang 10-29-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 787233)
I had cheap poly bushings and tubular UCA/LCA on my 5.0 and it was no louder than stock. Maybe that car just made so much noise with the cam and headers, ORX, and Flows that it drowned out the sqeeks, lol.

However, this does lead me to ask...Do you wish it had a properly set-up IRS now :stirthepot: ?

No, I don't wish it had IRS. The live axle is just fine. It handles the street just as well as my Z. Doesn't matter if the road is bumpy.

You can tell me this is impossible but I own the car and drive it every day. It is what it is.

Endgame 10-29-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 787118)
I'll have a dedicated wheel/tire setup for the strip.

But for street and HPDE I will probably end up running the same tire. I really love the RE11 but they don't make it in my size (255/40/19). Though I am thinking about some forged SVTPP (GT500) wheels so I might be able to fit an RE11 or NT05. :yum:


I love that idea..... I think the SVTPP are hawt!

m4a1mustang 10-29-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 787237)
I love that idea..... I think the SVTPP are hawt!

Yeah they are pretty sweet and it's nice that they are forged and light. :yum:

I will either do 19x9 all around with a 275 tire or 19x9 front and 19x10 rear.

I would prefer a non staggered setup for the best handling balance, though 19x10 in back would look hot. :icon17:

ImportConvert 10-29-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 787235)
No, I don't wish it had IRS. The live axle is just fine. It handles the street just as well as my Z. Doesn't matter if the road is bumpy.

You can tell me this is impossible but I own the car and drive it every day. It is what it is.

Does it step-out on corners? My WS6 would step out about 2" when I would hit a particular curved bridge with an expansion-joint in it. My Infiniti with a "SRA" of sorts w/a Watt's Link does not do so. Have you noticed a difference in these circumstances between the Z and the mustang? How about when flooring it over un-even pavement? Does it not hook as well?

m4a1mustang 10-29-2010 09:24 AM

It has to be a REALLY rough road for it to step out, but even the Z stepped out.

IMO the SRA performance on the Mustang is VERY close to the Z's IRS.

But I am tainted for life because I have driven a Cayman S in anger so I compare every suspension to that. :icon18:

m4a1mustang 10-29-2010 09:25 AM

The Z is better in the rain, though. I think it's just because it has less low range torque... it doesn't step out as much.

Red__Zed 10-29-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 787144)
All I saw was *justificationjustificationjustification---I bought what I wanted--justificationjustification*

If you bought what you wanted, who cares how much it cost? I'm not paying for it, and noone else on this board is either--you got what you want. Period. :tiphat:

Those numbers presented in that TCTO spreadsheet are grossly inaccurate. Just sayin.

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 787143)
Did I notice correctly, was it hopping on the shifts!? Ford has always been shy of putting enough tire on those cars. Maybe you can order the Boss rims when they come out, or use whatever tire they are using or something? 255's on that car is just stupid and I don't know why Ford insists on this kind of stuff. My WS6 wouldn't even sqeak a tire on shifts. It would lay waste to mustangs with similar power/weight simply because on the 1-2 shift they lost a car-length that they never came back from. You need good tires for the street, too!


Were you granny shifting? If you power shift, I'm pretty sure you'll get rubber, at least on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts....

ImportConvert 10-29-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 787269)
Those numbers presented in that TCTO spreadsheet are grossly inaccurate. Just sayin.




Were you granny shifting? If you power shift, I'm pretty sure you'll get rubber, at least on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts....

Shifting pretty aggressively. Not a full-on powershift, but it wasn't leisurely, either. The car just had a well designed suspension (for straight-line) and wide tires. After the tires were worn out, it would catch rubber a bit. Not much, though. Every mustang I raced from a dig would run into problems with me on the 1-2 shift, if not well before. I'm glad I sold it before the new 5.0's came out, although since I was able to stay neck/neck with 2010 SS's, I am curious how it would have compared.

cames4 10-29-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 787162)
Well I hope she doesn't post/lurk here ;)

But I am curious, is she paying for it? Why justify it?

We are one, thus, partners in all that we do. She knew me in 1980 and I let her drive my 69 Charger RT so she knows where my roots are with cars. This is my MLCC sooooooo she agreed that it was a good buy for me. No one I love more on this planet than her and YES, I asked her permission. :driving:

Next question?

ImportConvert 10-30-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cames4 (Post 788236)
We are one, thus, partners in all that we do. She knew me in 1980 and I let her drive my 69 Charger RT so she knows where my roots are with cars. This is my MLCC sooooooo she agreed that it was a good buy for me. No one I love more on this planet than her and YES, I asked her permission. :driving:

Next question?

Just one of curiosity. What caliber is the gun being held to your head?

370zproject 10-30-2010 09:28 AM

lol

ZedZed 10-30-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 788691)
Just one of curiosity. What caliber is the gun being held to your head?

Either that or he's being threatened he won't have sex for the next 10 years :ugh2:.

ImportConvert 10-30-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed (Post 788810)
Either that or he's being threatened he won't have sex for the next 10 years :ugh2:.

Wives are replaceable. That is a dumb threat.

cames4 10-31-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 789099)
Wives are replaceable. That is a dumb threat.

Ouch, my condolences to you and or significant other.... and note, no threats of anything. It is called mutual respect and love BUT I will save that for another website. Back on track:

Someone stated better shifts at 5K and above. Just got it out on the 5 in CA and shifts are MUCH smoother. I was having challenges from 1-2 but no longer; I was shifting too soon........ Going to turn off VDC today and see if I can break it loose and have fun. Have had the car 3 months now and its time.

cames4 11-03-2010 01:26 AM

Shifting RPM's
 
Back on track:

Someone stated better shifts at 5K and above. Just got it out on the 5 in CA and shifts are MUCH smoother. I was having challenges from 1-2 but no longer; I was shifting too soon........ Going to turn off VDC today and see if I can break it loose and have fun. Have had the car 3 months now and its time.[/QUOTE]

OK, drove over the weekend and found a lot of areas I could test the shifting at without interference. Gears 1-2 seem to like 4K, 2-3 and on do well with around 3K unless you really want to move quickly in which case, 7K does VERY well.... Posting in case anyone cares... :tiphat:

Anyone else have any thoughts regarding shift RPMs?

Endgame 11-03-2010 01:48 AM

I care. Good info!

theDreamer 11-03-2010 09:37 AM

I have really started to enjoy my car more again.
Switched a few things out and the car has a much better sound, performance is fantastic and daily driving is wonderful.

ProfessorDave 11-03-2010 11:43 AM

Like cames4, I've had the Z for just over 3 months now, and am starting to push it handling-wise. I've been hesitant to take the VDC off especially with the colder temps we've been experiencing and summer tires. I will at some point under the right conditions, as I do find it to be moderately intrusive. Still, I am gaining more of an appreciation of what this car can do. I have mentioned before that I am not used to the combination of power and handling, and am back in a RWD car after a 5 year hiatus since the RX-8 was traded in.


Oh, and Mustang Steve, that exhaust sounds awesome on your GT!


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