Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Nissan 370Z General Discussions (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/)
-   -   2007 Cayman S 2010 370z Rolex Vs Seiko Vs Omega (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/26630-2007-cayman-s-2010-370z-rolex-vs-seiko-vs-omega.html)

sheps58 10-19-2010 05:47 PM

2007 Cayman S 2010 370z Rolex Vs Seiko Vs Omega
 
I think I have the Cayman out of my system. I was seduced at the Porsche dealership. But a used car for over 40000.00? What am I paying for? The name, the German health care system the pension of a German or worker from Finland. Cayman made in Finland.
I left and looked at the base 370z. I plan to purchase it on Thursday.

A Rolex cost about 6 grand my Omega less than half a nice Seiko a grand. They all tell time.

I think the 370 will make me as happy as my 280 or the Porsche.

jetguy 10-19-2010 06:00 PM

the 370z is a fine car, but the cayman has that little something magical about it. a car that could be your last sports car you ever buy. i dont see that with the 370z. i do still enjoy my 370z alot!

jetguy 10-19-2010 06:02 PM

oh yeah, i got my 370z for $25k w 6k miles on it. vs. 40k for a cayman weighed heavily on my choice.

kenchan 10-19-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheps58 (Post 772847)
I think I have the Cayman out of my system. I was seduced at the Porsche dealership. But a used car for over 40000.00? What am I paying for? The name, the German health care system the pension of a German or worker from Finland. Cayman made in Finland.
I left and looked at the base 370z. I plan to purchase it on Thursday.

A Rolex cost about 6 grand my Omega less than half a nice Seiko a grand. They all tell time.

I think the 370 will make me as happy as my 280 or the Porsche.

You sound like a walmart bargain hunter that drives a KIA.

wilsonp 10-19-2010 06:19 PM

Did you drive the Cayman?

I was looking at a Cayman S PDK but they are still somewhat expensive, and of course maintenance is expensive, but a mid-engine car is magic.

I couldn't justify the difference right now either ($60k versus $32k) when a one owner 370Z with everything I wanted showed up at the local dealer.

I do think it makes more sense to consider a Touring+Sport+Nav or Roadster when comparing to the Cayman.

Bleek 10-19-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 772893)
You sound like a walmart bargain hunter that drives a KIA.

:iagree:



you get what you pay for.

ninous26 10-19-2010 06:43 PM

You guys sound so snobby.. Why didn't you all get a Cayman then?

His logic makes sense to me... The car part, not the watch part.

sonic370 10-19-2010 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninous26 (Post 772923)
You guys sound so snobby.. Why didn't you all get a Cayman then?

His logic makes sense to me... The car part, not the watch part.

:iagree: thought i was on the 350 forum for a second

kenchan 10-19-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninous26 (Post 772923)
You guys sound so snobby.. Why didn't you all get a Cayman then?

His logic makes sense to me... The car part, not the watch part.

You dont even have a Z. Go home. :crying: :inoutroflpuke: ;)

sheps58 10-19-2010 07:26 PM

I want a basic sports car. My 280z was perfect. My 1962 E-Type was amazing. If I want a touring package, I would by the G-37. My Jag was 4 speed no a/c. The car had brakes all necessary gauges and a aluminum dash. Spartan.

nicknick 10-19-2010 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 772893)
You sound like a walmart bargain hunter that drives a KIA.

C'mon give the guy a break. I think we all know what he means. Yeah sure the Porsche maybe a little better in areas but at what cost? The Porsche sure does not win the "value for money" contest and what is wrong with trying to get good value? You do pay through the nose for a "label" car and in my opinion that sucks and it really comes down to paying extra for an image. I could understand the Porsche being priced a little more than the 370Z, but hey c'mon.

sheps58 10-19-2010 08:01 PM

Hey that hurts. I drive a BMW 2004 325. Heated seats, sun roof. I want a 2nd car fun to drive. I like the porsche drove a 911, sat in the Cayman. A base Cayman is $45000.00 plus tax. I loved my 280 the base 370 should suit my purpose.

kenchan 10-19-2010 08:29 PM

Wtf is wrong with you soft skinned non Z folk? It was a joke. Get the car u want. My music gear costs more than ur bimmer even if new.

370Zsteve 10-19-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninous26 (Post 772923)
You guys sound so snobby.. Why didn't you all get a Cayman then?

His logic makes sense to me... The car part, not the watch part.

Ignore the stupid comments from people who can't afford a Cayman S.

370Zsteve 10-19-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 772974)
You dont even have a Z. Go home. :crying: :inoutroflpuke: ;)

Dude, wtf????? :icon14:

nicknick 10-19-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 773126)
Ignore the stupid comments from people who can't afford a Cayman S.

Unfortunately, you have missed my point. I am not saying the Porsche is not good, I am saying you are paying too much for it, I believe the price is overinflated. You do the sums, the 370 has, what, at least 95% of the performance of the cayman, yet it is priced, what, at approx 60% of its price. Granted the 370 may have some NHV issues, but when I drove one I thought it was smooth as.

NEWTOY370Z 10-19-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheps58 (Post 772847)
I think I have the Cayman out of my system. I was seduced at the Porsche dealership. But a used car for over 40000.00? What am I paying for? The name, the German health care system the pension of a German or worker from Finland. Cayman made in Finland.
I left and looked at the base 370z. I plan to purchase it on Thursday.

A Rolex cost about 6 grand my Omega less than half a nice Seiko a grand. They all tell time.

I think the 370 will make me as happy as my 280 or the Porsche.

Yup, another Rolex basher. Do you even own one for comparison? :icon18:

jetguy 10-19-2010 09:55 PM

i have a 370z and an omega : )

kenchan 10-19-2010 10:29 PM

sheps- so does this mean your wife is now okay with your venture? :D or did you decide to kick her out?

optiontrader 10-19-2010 10:52 PM

Everytime I lay into the throttle, I think to myself: "damn, this is a lot of fun for $36k!".

Do yourself a favor and DON'T test drive the Cayman. I did, and seriously considered stretching, but I would be eating into the cash earmarked for the improvements on our home we just bought.

If you're coming from a 280, you'll love the 370Z - it's a bit rough around the edges, but a lot of car for the money.

My other end of the spectrum was the MazdaSpeed 3 and GTI (did you know these come with a dual clutch transmission?), but fully optioned out, the 370Z was only several thousand more (minus 2 seats).

If you're shaking your head at the price of a P-car, even used, I'd drop the crosshairs down a notch.

Oh, my dream watch is a Patek, but I own a Seiko chronograph that I bought on sale. :)

zmyride 10-19-2010 11:03 PM

I have a real Rolex, but i drive a 370Z. If I traded the 370Z for a Cayman S, I would have to go grocery shopping and pay with foodstamps.

Rolex + Cayman S = No more money = Foodstamps.

cab83_750 10-19-2010 11:20 PM

We are in our own world. In our Z world, we talk about the next better item - in our case, a Porsche.

Now, be a member of Porsche forum like Pelican Parts or Rennlist. You will see that they also 'wish' or talk about the next better car -- be it a Ferrari or Lambo or whatever.

This is the law of relativity. We all wish or shoot for the next best thing. To be blunt and direct, we attempt to justify "settling" for the compromise car. Deep in our hearts, we wished we all have the extra 30 grand and have bought the Porsche. You may deny it, but deep inside, we all do.

We all dream and shoot for the next best thing. That is just human nature.

Oh, In case you are wondering, I do have a two-tone Rolex and 2 911s. I am currently and actively considering a 911 turbo or a Cayman.

Some people buy Craftsman and some buy McTools wrenches. Why buy McTools? Because some can. I, myself, am a Craftsman guy.

nicknick 10-19-2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by optiontrader (Post 773393)
Everytime I lay into the throttle, I think to myself: "damn, this is a lot of fun for $36k!".

Do yourself a favor and DON'T test drive the Cayman. I did, and seriously considered stretching, but I would be eating into the cash earmarked for the improvements on our home we just bought.

If you're coming from a 280, you'll love the 370Z - it's a bit rough around the edges, but a lot of car for the money.

My other end of the spectrum was the MazdaSpeed 3 and GTI (did you know these come with a dual clutch transmission?), but fully optioned out, the 370Z was only several thousand more (minus 2 seats).

If you're shaking your head at the price of a P-car, even used, I'd drop the crosshairs down a notch.

Oh, my dream watch is a Patek, but I own a Seiko chronograph that I bought on sale. :)

Can you tell me objectively in what way is the cayman noticeably better than the 370z. i would really like to know.

shabarivas 10-19-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab83_750 (Post 773413)
We are in our own world. In our Z world, we talk about the next better item - in our case, a Porsche.

Now, be a member of Porsche forum like Pelican Parts or Rennlist. You will see that they also 'wish' or talk about the next better car -- be it a Ferrari or Lambo or whatever.

This is the law of relativity. We all wish or shoot for the next best thing. To be blunt and direct, we attempt to justify "settling" for the compromise car. Deep in our hearts, we wished we all have the extra 30 grand and have bought the Porsche. You may deny it, but deep inside, we all do.

We all dream and shoot for the next best thing. That is just human nature.

Oh, In case you are wondering, I do have a two-tone Rolex and 2 911s. I am currently and actively considering a 911 turbo or a Cayman.

Some people buy Craftsman and some buy McTools wrenches. Why buy McTools? Because some can.

So in other words you are better than us and want a ferrari? LOL jk - agree'd that we set our sights high but I feel even with a billion bucks I would have a 370 in my garage

cab83_750 10-19-2010 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 773445)
So in other words you are better than us and want a ferrari? LOL jk - agree'd that we set our sights high but I feel even with a billion bucks I would have a 370 in my garage

:). I am here in this forum with you guys. We should all have a group hug for self-pity settling for the Z and wishing for a Porsche, a Bimmer, .... :) I never liked Ferraris. I do like Lambo's and Astons.


Will I buy a Lambo or a Vantage? Nah! I am not at that next level of higher dream.

I bet you a billion bucks that if you do have a billion bucks, you would not be driving a Z!!!! :)

Mt Tam I am 10-20-2010 12:39 AM

What happened to this thread? Some poor guy asked for some help and his treatment has not been stelar.

I put 277,000 miles on my old 1978 280 Z. The 370 is twice the HP, and the rear end is much more stable, nor does the radiator leave you stranded. The oil temp on the 370 reminds me of the 280 water temp.
Of course 30 odd years newer so everything works. The 280 must have more room in the back (old memory) where the 370 has little by comparison , but the Cayman has less still.

wilsonp 10-20-2010 12:44 AM

The Cayman has 9 cubic feet in the back, and 5.5 in the front trunk.

The 370Z has 6.9 in the back. Not even close.

OTOH, the NSX had 5.4 so the 370Z feels expansive to me, if a little less functional in shape.

cab83_750 10-20-2010 01:10 AM

To help you out with your justification, the Z looks more macho than the Cayman. The latter stil looks girly-ish!


Quote:

Originally Posted by sheps58 (Post 772847)
I think I have the Cayman out of my system. I was seduced at the Porsche dealership. But a used car for over 40000.00? What am I paying for? The name, the German health care system the pension of a German or worker from Finland. Cayman made in Finland.
I left and looked at the base 370z. I plan to purchase it on Thursday.

A Rolex cost about 6 grand my Omega less than half a nice Seiko a grand. They all tell time.

I think the 370 will make me as happy as my 280 or the Porsche.


kenchan 10-20-2010 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 773508)
What happened to this thread? Some poor guy asked for some help and his treatment has not been stelar.

I put 277,000 miles on my old 1978 280 Z. The 370 is twice the HP, and the rear end is much more stable, nor does the radiator leave you stranded. The oil temp on the 370 reminds me of the 280 water temp.
Of course 30 odd years newer so everything works. The 280 must have more room in the back (old memory) where the 370 has little by comparison , but the Cayman has less still.

Thats because he is saying the cayman and 370z are of the same car. Thats where he went wrong. I did not buy the Z as a pcar alternative. I dont even consider the cars to be that similar. This is like someone settling on a genesis instead of buying a G because 'its the same thing.' There u go, mistaken bargain hunter.

CrownR426 10-20-2010 06:50 AM

Smart choice on the Z34 sir!
Haha I apologize on behalf of our wonderful members here..
Cayman S is a beautiful car but I don't think it's far to match it up with the Z.
I'd rather compare the Cayman S with the Z4.
Either way, you have made a smart choice with the Z34.
But as the old adage goes, you get what you pay for.

jetguy 10-20-2010 06:53 AM

the Z is great fun. and i'm very happy with it, but my next car(5years from now) will be open top, 300+hp (factory), and under 3000lbs. i miss the connectivity i had with my s2000.

CrownR426 10-20-2010 07:05 AM

uh... s2k over the z34...?
smh...

UNKNOWN_370 10-20-2010 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 773182)
Unfortunately, you have missed my point. I am not saying the Porsche is not good, I am saying you are paying too much for it, I believe the price is overinflated. You do the sums, the 370 has, what, at least 95% of the performance of the cayman, yet it is priced, what, at approx 60% of its price. Granted the 370 may have some NHV issues, but when I drove one I thought it was smooth as.

heres a lil secret. all car prices are over-inflated. if u had true knowledge of actual build cost of automated built vehicles . you would be complaining every car is overpriced. the porsche is semi-hand built. the suspension components are leagues more advanced. thematerials cost more, making it a way more precise car. the z is awesome but there are big differences between nissan and porsche .and yes, it shows in overall performance .
drive the cayman, dont just read mags.

optiontrader 10-20-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 773426)
Can you tell me objectively in what way is the cayman noticeably better than the 370z. i would really like to know.

??? Not going down this route. I never said objectively the Cayman was superior - just my subjective opinion (damn nice car!!!). Maybe OP can test drive it and prove to himself the P-car doesn't feel more refined, planted, telepathic?, etc. But I bet he won't reach that conclusion. :icon17:

nicknick 10-20-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 773809)
heres a lil secret. all car prices are over-inflated. if u had true knowledge of actual build cost of automated built vehicles . you would be complaining every car is overpriced. the porsche is semi-hand built. the suspension components are leagues more advanced. thematerials cost more, making it a way more precise car. the z is awesome but there are big differences between nissan and porsche .and yes, it shows in overall performance .
drive the cayman, dont just read mags.

thanks unknown but what you said is not unknown to me in relation to true cost. Again you're missing my point and i just can't be bothered writing anymore. just think about it.

optiontrader 10-20-2010 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 774543)
Again you're missing my point and i just can't be bothered writing anymore.

I get your point - it's a good one. Is Cayman 1.5x the driving experience as the Z? Probably not for us - we drive Z's.

But it's a damn fine car, and those with the $$$ available, probably think it's money well spent!

Push370zzz 10-20-2010 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheps58 (Post 772847)
I think I have the Cayman out of my system. I was seduced at the Porsche dealership. But a used car for over 40000.00? What am I paying for? The name, the German health care system the pension of a German or worker from Finland. Cayman made in Finland.
I left and looked at the base 370z. I plan to purchase it on Thursday.

A Rolex cost about 6 grand my Omega less than half a nice Seiko a grand. They all tell time.

I think the 370 will make me as happy as my 280 or the Porsche.

I thought about it too, but it's a better looking car (that gets a hell of a lot more attention) with similar performance. For me it came down to if I wanted to spend nearly $20k just for a nicer interior and better out of the box handling. I put on the Hotchkis sways and some HP+ pads and slicks at the track and can kill them. No brainer for me :tup:

KillerBee370 10-20-2010 11:51 PM

I'm so tired of Caymans

doubleG370Z 10-21-2010 12:14 AM

I bought the 370Z b/c I like how the car looked as well as performance/drive...the back end remains me of a 911 look. Yes, I would like a porsche but I don't want to spend all that money into a new car. The Z is a fun car that gives me a sports car at a price I feel comfortable with. I've already had the bimmer & lexus.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:37 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2