My advice is... go to the most isolated, open place you can find. Turn off the vdc. And burn a tank of gas doin power slides and sharp 90 degree turns at the highest mph u can. Do this as often as it takes for you to feel like you have full control of the car no matter what you do. That way you never feel like if the vdc is off, you will crash in a tree or somethin. You will also have the pride and dignity of knowing that you are not just driving a sports car for show,bragging rights and chics. You will have the skills to back yo sh1t up so to speak.

So let me understand you. Buy a tank of gas.Then kick the xxit out of your car for around two hours. to prove to yourself you can drive.

then go buy a new set of tires and hope the newbies don't burn up thier engines and transmission's.

I know what the car will do if you turn off vdc. I don't need the car to show me.

might as well buy a prius

:ugh2: You should probably just stop now.

:D

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Well said!

if it wasn't for these dumbarses , nissan would've put the right front offset wheels on our cars imho. wth's with +47?! lol still kids crash into things.

this car should have came out of the box +27/+15.

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I agree with Cossie1600 100%.

I do not have the ability to read the hearts and minds of men, like a deity, and Jeffblue. It must be wonderful. Then to draw an irrational and emotional conclusion makes me think you are my mother in-law. So i'll just ask, are you she? Although I do agree with Jeffblue, one should not daily drift to the store, as an opinion.

I live on a steep mountain and with VDC on, it lights up, and activates the tugging and pulling of the brakes needlessly, with great frequency the entire ride downhill. With VDC off, the same drive at the same speed, the California Highway Patrol behind me, not one peep out of the tires, no loss of traction, and I am still under the speed limit. Your conclusion I am driving like an *** and I am cheap. The CHP clearly drew a different conclusion about the former.

Regarding cheapness: I worked my way through University and educated myself before I bought an expensive car. This education including critical thinking and logic. Wether or not you went to college or not, it is obvious you do not think logically. Aristotle would agree with me. So if needed sell your car, and educate yourself before you jump to a one size fits all chastisement. It is worth it, just to avoid embarrassing gaffs like the one you made.

I am very surprised that others agree with your statement: You shouldn't be losing traction very often if you are driving safely and are conscious of other people on the road.
How often, is very often, in your opinion to lose traction, safely? Clearly you have a number or frequency in mind that it is safe. A few times a day, once a day, once a week. What have you determined so that we are illuminated to your mind set. Many, myself included, would argue safety dictates no loss of traction ever.

I know my Prius won't cut power in tight corners or when I need to go WOT. The VDC on the Z cars love to cut throttle or apply brakes in random moments. It's easy for me to activate the VDC doing a 5mph tight turn into my private road. A good system should only intrude when you need it, not at random moments. I know a lot of people have never driven other cars with VDC, but do give them a shot before you talk about how good the Nissan system is.

Why do you buy your car to cruise at 55mph? You can get a Prius and get 2x the gas mileage and 2/3 the cost. What a waste. Also going by your view, Miami Heat shouldn't even play a game and they will win a championship.

My view? Please, show me where you can see my view on this subject. Except for the fact that I think it's ridiculous to say that if we drive with VDC on then we might as well just drive a Prius. Actually, it isn't ridiculous, just ******* stupid.

sorry i wasnt talking about your comment, it was to the other guy who claims he doesnt need to drive the car fast just because he knows it is. (track autox or whatever)

I drove my G35c 6MT with it off all the time...Shifts were much smoother even at low RPM....I noticed the same with the 370z, I drive the car with it off all the time....I never wrecked my G35c 6MT....I'll post pics of the 370z....I haven't rev'd it past 3,500RPM yet... :eek:

i went to college. i bought my own Z. i am very logical. I dont see the need for these stupid VDC threads. did you really mention 'aristotle' in a thread about traction control.... i mean, really?

Apparently he did, mention 'Aristotle'...

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Anyways, this thread is going in circles, if people have a problem with they way i am most comfortable driving my car, in San Diego, CA come let me know. I Dont Drive with VDC on, hell even in rain, and yes i said rain... I drove for my First 5-6 yrs in ny in snow not the city, and through the four seasons, i have a pretty damn good understanding of road conditions and what the car is doing under me, and when i feel i could use a little nanny i turn the thing on. I have been out here for about 4.5 yrs... and the general populous dont know how to drive. Im not trying to toot any horn....im just saying... i also grew up with a father who taught me just about everything i know about cars, what to do in situations when **** gets a littls out of place etc...

But with all the highway sweepers and high bank entrance/exit ramps we have here well they are fun to push on, within reason.

I am a person that is constantly on alert and unfortunately it allows me to drive with quick responses as well as allow myself to move with traffic in a law abiding manner.


BOTTOM LINE


DRIVE WITHIN YOUR OWN APPROPRIATE SKILL LEVEL.

Books don't teach you the limitation of electronics and the side effects. You should learn the pros and cons of the system before you tell people what they should do.

Who are you addressing?

Also Nissan would not have put a button to shut the program off if it wasn't meant to be used....

I think this thread is done!!

I love you trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not sure I understand your tirade. Is there any other time, besides driving on a hill, that VDC impairs your driving?

Personally I don't understand the VDC hate, but I don't normally drive in such a way that would cause VDC to turn on. Is it impossible for some people drive in a manner that precludes VDC from activating? I don't get it. So far it seems like the only valid reasons for not having VDC on are when you're driving downhill and when on a track.

JeffBlue, aka I love my VDC?

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I'm not saying the Z's VDC system is as good as some of the other sports cars out there with better programming, but I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be.
I've never experienced "random" engagement of the VDC system like you describe. In fact, any time I've experienced a harsh or abrupt VDC engagement, it was a result of deliberately tool-like throttle application on my part. When driving smoothly, I might notice the VDC light blinking, but I don't experience any abrupt throttle cut or brake application.
I'm not a fanboy who thinks that everything about the 370Z is the best ever, but I also don't have the vehement hatred for the the VDC system that you do. I think it's just fine for a street driven $30K sports car.

I agree to disagree.

Had you taken critical thinking you would know that Aristotle and his teachings of logic, are taught in every introductory critical thinking course. I realize you do not need these stupid VDC threads. Apparently you do need to comment within them, and belittle others. Simply defend your rationale and name calling or please do not do it. Thanks.

Almost all my driving is done up and downhill winding the entire way. To some this automatically makes me an *** and cheap. Instead of going to work and back home again.
Hate is too strong for the VDC. In the rain it is fine. What I hate is forgetting to turn it off. This is a personal decision. Everyone should be free to drive with the VDC in the position in which they are most comfortable without criticism.

where i went to college, critical thinking was the english class they placed kids in who couldn't write an essay or express themselves in a coherent matter in written word. the ones who couldn't even place into english 101. I know who aristotle is. I just thought it was funny to see someone mention an ancient greek philosopher in a car forum.

Anyways, it wasn't my intention to place everyone who clicks the 'VDC off' button into a group of hoons that are a danger to society, so if i offended you i'm sorry.

Socrates!

6MT + VDC off + S mode off = Driving, instead of being driven!

I guess I've never noticed because I've only driven in relatively flat places.