You think?

i think he thinks

Ah well. I drive a Hyundai...but I'm not about to get a Genesis Coupe or that other thing they called a sports car.

Those guys are the d-bags.

hey, does it mean that i am a dbag because i had a 350 before? which means i am now a 370 dbag!?! :D

you're only a 350z dbag if you spend months shi1t talking the 370z on my350z.com saying how ugly it is and how the 350z is so much better just because you are trying to convince yourself that you dont want one, even though you do.

There's nothing to be ashamed of with Hyundai. Their quality has risen substantially, and they have the best warranty in the business.

We <3 you, Korean car driver.

So true :icon18:

Same with KIA, their cars look quite OK nowadays but since Hyundai bought KIA it's to be expected :). Not sure if they both have the same models but just re-badged because I see both brands where I live.

a hyundai or kia where you live probably costs as much as an altima here. right?

The Korean cars are taking over the world. The latest models are competing strongly in their respective classes in terms of quality and then in a lot of instance at a lower price. I have had a Hyundai before and only had wonderful miles with it, no issues whatsoever.

Luckily I didn't trashtalk the 370 before, although I had to get used to the auto when I drove it for a few months

I thought ford owned kia...

The parent company of Kia is : Hyundai Kia Automotive Group

Yes, and most Kia's and Hyundai's share a common platform and are mechanically and structurally identical.

For example, the Kia Rio (of which Kia touts "the pursuit of happiness was never this much fun" - though I don't exactly know what's fun about a 110 bhp Korean sh*tbox with a torsion beam rear suspension) is identical to the Hyundai Accent (which Hyundai claims is "nimble").

....

OK, I'm going to shoot myself after looking those two cars up. It must be a pretty dreary existence to be forced into buying either one of these and be convinced they're either "fun" or "nimble."

Well yeah, cars in general are way more expensive over here in Europe compared to ones in America, so you're probably right. A Rio (base model) costs $19900 (VAT) over here in Europe. In Euro terms they're quite cheap (If you're OK with the bad brand image).

I think Hyundai is slightly more expensive over here because it's got a slightly better brand image than KIA. A Sonata 2.0 diesel (Executive) is $37924 (VAT), that's the price of a Z in America :ugh2:.

hhah you got that right, a fully loaded Z at that. Europe FTL (on how much things cost, everything else they are FTW)

Yeah tell me about it, we're getting ripped off completely!!!! :shakes head:

My Z cost me $59363 (full option, persimmon) BUT we get an optional reverse parking aid so it's totally worth the money :ugh2:.

By the way, we have to pay a one off tax of $6523 before you can drive the car on public roads. And then on top of that you have a yearly road tax of $1957. The insurance for such cars is a killer too. That's why this car is going to be SUPER rare in this country.

Grand total of $67843 without insurance to buy and drive a full option 370z in Belgium :D.