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Tjai370Z 09-15-2010 09:55 PM

Performance:Nismo vs Touringw/sport pack
 
I have trouble deciding which model to choose. Touring has all the lux features but i do plan on modding and tunning my Z. but why do i see some articles where the touring performs just a bit better? like for example the dsports magazine even proves it and even this

IL Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring

If I get the nismo I would have to also worry about the interior like for example the audio and nav. and i plan on changing everything anyways because i don't want to keep it stock or look stock.

If I get the full loaded Touringw/sport pack, I wouldn't need to worry about the interior at all and just focus on performance and exterior and might save. but in the nismo i would have to change everything.

both would be around the same price.

now I'm looking back and thinking if its because of those braces in the suspension in the nismo, maybe people didn't remove them?

OH AND ONE MORE QUESTION: people who have the nismos and have removed the black braces that were suppose to be removed, did you notice:
1)better feel over rough roads when you had the braces on? because I have always heard how rough the nismo is to the point its unbearable on the streets.
2)lower in height?(ground clearance)
3) better performance? maybe?

**Sorry for being a newb if by chance I am being one, but this forum is one of the best organized, easiest to use I have seen and i know there are friendly people here whose willing to help out a new dude.
Thank You

m4a1mustang 09-15-2010 10:05 PM

The Touring/Sport performs just as well because there really isn't a big difference between the NISMO and regular Z.

Tjai370Z 09-15-2010 10:18 PM

how many nismos are actually gonna be made btw?

Nikon FM 09-15-2010 10:19 PM

I have not ridden in a NIZMO so I can't compare. I run my Touring/Sport on the track on occasion and can say the suspension is a bit soft for my taste/driving, however on sketchy pavement (normal driving) I quite like it. Performance wise…with test pipes and a CBE I'm quite pleased as well.

Tjai370Z 09-15-2010 10:23 PM

do you think if you got some new coilovers, it could solve the problem?

zero 09-15-2010 10:25 PM

^ definitely you will love you touring/Sport Z even more.

Tjai370Z 09-15-2010 10:33 PM

is the difference of ground clearance between the two significant?

m4a1mustang 09-15-2010 10:40 PM

No, but the NISMO's front splitter might make it more difficult getting into driveways and such.

Cell 09-15-2010 10:48 PM

I went with the Nismo because I just love the body much more than the regular Z and on top of that the rims. Nismo rims > sport package rims in my opinion.

1. If you are refering to the spring spacers then yes the ride quality dramatically changed. It is much more softer without the spacers. It is still stiffer than the base but has a more sporty feel.
2. I believe it is only .4 inch lower than the regular Zs. Not much difference. The only problem is the front bumper sticking out too much which gives you problems going up and down ramps. Most speed bumps I do not have an issue with.
3. The two car performance wise, there isn't really much. The feel of both cars are a bit different though. When I test drove the base Z it is softer on the road.

Tjai370Z 09-15-2010 11:00 PM

yeah but whether i get the nismo or fully loaded touring, I'm going to change the exterior, so is it rly worth it to get the nismo? cuz if i get the touring i wont have to worry about the interior or the audio.

m4a1mustang 09-15-2010 11:01 PM

If you're going to change the exterior don't get the NISMO. Just get the Touring/Sport. Seems like it's what you really want, anyways. Go for it.

Tjai370Z 09-15-2010 11:06 PM

yeah, but my friend is trying to convince me the nismo is worth it. he says it got better value and if you do change the exterior, you can sell the nismo bumpers for 3-4k, and im like ummm... just wana verify if that is true. he even says he can sell the nismo back for 50-60k but that was a stupid thing to say so i ignored him when he said that. his brother has a nismo. so is what he says correct?

m4a1mustang 09-15-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjai370Z (Post 723447)
yeah, but my friend is trying to convince me the nismo is worth it. he says it got better value and if you do change the exterior, you can sell the nismo bumpers for 3-4k, and im like ummm... just wana verify if that is true. he even says he can sell the nismo back for 50-60k but that was a stupid thing to say so i ignored him when he said that. his brother has a nismo. so is what he says correct?

Ignore your friend. Just get the Touring/Sport.

Cell 09-15-2010 11:25 PM

Ignore your crazy friend. Why is a crazy guy like that your friend?

Anyways the touring model fits you best because if you are going to change the exterior then you are wasting your money on a Nismo.

daimon1313 09-15-2010 11:31 PM

As someone who is in on this search as well, I can only express what I'm thinking from another potential buyer's POV.

If you are planning on doing anything at all to the body, exhaust, rims....don't get the NISMO. Plain and simple. Especially if you really want that Nav package.

Tjai370Z 09-16-2010 12:01 AM

haha wow I'm impressed. you guys just helped me so much. this is an amazing forum! also is the 370z(touring) able to go in snow? cuz I have seen vids of people going around town in the winter with bridgestone blizzaks. i mean is it possible in 3-4 inches as long as you drive very carefuly?

i cant even find that video anymore. it was a blue 370z

Trips 09-16-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjai370Z (Post 723479)
haha wow I'm impressed. you guys just helped me so much. this is an amazing forum! also is the 370z(touring) able to go in snow? cuz I have seen vids of people going around town in the winter with bridgestone blizzaks. i mean is it possible in 3-4 inches as long as you drive very carefuly?

i cant even find that video anymore. it was a blue 370z

That was AK

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...cs-ak370z.html

Cell 09-16-2010 12:17 AM

You will need winter tires.

Tjai370Z 09-16-2010 12:22 AM

thank you! but i hope there would be a video instead of just pictures of the setup. I want to actually see of how well it works.

Tjai370Z 09-16-2010 12:22 AM

do you drive your nismo in the winter?

Cell 09-16-2010 12:29 AM

I have yet to drive it in winter. I have only owned my car for a little more than 3 weeks.

I will not be driving it in winter as I do not feel like plowing snow for the city. I don't want to also deal with all the salt that the city throws on the ground. Chicago uses a TON of salt and we all know how much damage salt does to all cars.

Trips 09-16-2010 12:34 AM

Sorry there were issues with AK's vid :(

Tjai370Z 09-16-2010 12:39 AM

yeah I actually enjoyed watch it cuz i was just amazed on how well it does. AK seems to talk about how well the 370z drives in the snow.
i think i should be pretty confident. thanks guys!

Vegitto-kun 09-16-2010 06:39 AM

might not be needed

but get the sport + touring package.

the nismo version is just not worth it. I find that the nismo version is more for bragging right.

look at my NISMO Z yeah im totally a racing driver.

car handles pretty well on snow even with the stock tires. I got my Z in the middle of winter snow and ice everywhere.

just be carefull

m4a1mustang 09-16-2010 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjai370Z (Post 723513)
yeah I actually enjoyed watch it cuz i was just amazed on how well it does. AK seems to talk about how well the 370z drives in the snow.
i think i should be pretty confident. thanks guys!

As long as you have a good set of winter wheels and snow tires almost any car is going to do pretty well in light to moderate snow.

TongMan 09-16-2010 07:31 AM

Take a ride in both and compare them back to back. Maybe you can feel a difference other than the ride stiffness between the two.

m4a1mustang 09-16-2010 07:34 AM

The OP really seems like he wants the added features of the Touring package, though. As a daily driver I would settle for no less than the Sport/Touring. The NISMO is far too bare-bones for me. If I was looking for a weekend/track day fun car, I would probably pick up the NISMO...

But for the daily grind you can't beat the convenience of Bluetooth and Homelink or the luxury of leather, heated seats and a Bose sound system, which, for all intents and purposes, is a good system for those that aren't audiophiles.

GTLAW 09-17-2010 01:41 PM

I can right now order the whole NISMO 370z OEM body kit for $3400. And $2K for wing.

The front bumper is like only $800 or so.

fuct 09-17-2010 01:55 PM

OP sounds like hes 18...? anyone else feel this?

klubbheads 09-17-2010 05:09 PM

^ a little bit..
For me like someone else mentioned, it was the body that i was sold on more than anything else. I don't think the handling is any different unless it is a very smooth track that you're going to drive on with the car's full potential. Softer suspension on the regular Z is actually better for most roads/canyons/parking lots like this magazine tested. Nismo suspension is easier to upset and get it out of balance because the rebound on the shocks/springs is really quick so any small inperfections on the road will unsettle the car.

The only way to find out which one is really faster is to have a pro do laps on the same track on the same day back to back. 99.99% of the people on this forum will not be able to distingwish the difference so it all depends on your skills to faster no matter if you have nismo or not.

elm_tx 09-17-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 723420)
No, but the NISMO's front splitter might make it more difficult getting into driveways and such.

I have a NISMO, my driveway has a fairly decent incline to it, if I approach it at an angle and get one tire on it, then straighten the car out, it comes up just fine. Same thing for backing out. Approach it straight on and you won't be smiling!!!

The car is stiff, but not near as bad as my 96 Vette. I can live with the stiffness, road noise is very noticeable. Turn up the stereo and it mysteriously goes away... Just don't get understand why...:tiphat:

How do I find if I have those black braces that are being talked about? I believe the dealership removed them, I just don't know that they did.

CWofRR 09-17-2010 10:08 PM

Go with touring and sport.


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