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iwasgointo 08-29-2010 02:07 PM

Engine doesn't seem free revving
 
My 09 370Z with 7800 miles and manual trans doesn't seem to be as free revving as I'd like. My daily driver is an 06 Honda Element with a 2.4 ltr four cylinder engine and a manual trans, it has 58,000 miles on it.

When I rev the Honda from idle or any other rpm it responds quickly and willingly. The 370Z on the other hand is slower to rev and seems to be held back somewhat.

Would this be normal when comparing a high powered V6 to a much less powerful 4 cylinder, or will the Nissan rev more quickly as the mileage adds up and engine loosens up a bit?

Or perhaps, the 370Z has a larger, heavier flywheel that will never allow it to be as responsive as the much smaller Honda engine.

Of course, in normal driving and especially when merging onto the highway the
370Z gets me up to speed in a hurry.

fullmonty 08-29-2010 02:19 PM

If you are revving in Neutral there is a lock of sorts so that you won't over rev the engine.

iwasgointo 08-29-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 699367)
If you are revving in Neutral there is a lock of sorts so that you won't over rev the engine.

Yes, I am revving in neutral at a stand still, and I have noticed that there is a rev limit of about 4500 rpm when in neutral and a no load condition. No doubt this is a good thing.

I suppose, what I may be experiencing is this rev limiter in action. Although, I will say that when blipping the throttle for a down shift I would like a quicker response.

Blipping the throttle for a down shift is a new thing for me so, perhaps, it's just an adjustment on my part that's needed.

spearfish25 08-29-2010 04:01 PM

No, the Z is ungodly slow to respond. It's partly the heavy flywheel and the partly the electronic throttle. I'm looking into the Speed Booster which improves throttle response as a possible solution.

RCZ 08-29-2010 04:37 PM

Alex, can you tell us more about the speed booster?

A lightened flywheel and crank pulley helps a lot with the lazy revving.

AndyZ 08-29-2010 05:26 PM

same here lighter pulley and flywheel helped alot, except for the noise

JB-370z 08-29-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 699481)
Alex, can you tell us more about the speed booster?

A lightened flywheel and crank pulley helps a lot with the lazy revving.

I need to fix this issue. It makes the engine feel very much un-refined and lazy like you said.

iwasgointo 08-29-2010 07:00 PM

[QUOTE=RCZ;699481]Alex, can you tell us more about the speed booster?

I found out this product is called the "Sprint Booster" and it attaches to your gas pedal. There are a couple of install videos on You Tube. It looks real easy to install and is pricey at $329 for something so simple, but it's probably well worth the cost if it's built to last the life of the vehicle.

I want to get this product, but dang it, why is everything I want so costly?
WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO SUFFER?

vehl 08-29-2010 07:56 PM

^ if it does what it says, $329 is cheap..

wilsonp 08-29-2010 08:47 PM

At that price, could a similar effect be built in to a tune?

ImportConvert 08-29-2010 10:05 PM

Accelerator by wire technology is still lacking imho.

That and a massively heavy flywheel.

red6spd 08-29-2010 10:55 PM

I hear the UpRev tune gets rid of the throttle lag a lot of guys speak of. Think that may help????

ImportConvert 08-29-2010 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 699974)
I hear the UpRev tune gets rid of the throttle lag a lot of guys speak of. Think that may help????

Mustangs, 'vettes, etc. I have talked to the owners of after a tune always say a good tune fixes the issue.

spearfish25 08-30-2010 06:57 AM

I emailed the speed booster folks and I'm working out either a free demo or a 30 day trial with money back guarantee. I'll post something as soon as I know more. Hopefully it helps response rather than just make the throttle a hair-trigger on/off switch.

NonStopTuning 08-30-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 699481)
Alex, can you tell us more about the speed booster?

A lightened flywheel and crank pulley helps a lot with the lazy revving.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyZ (Post 699559)
same here lighter pulley and flywheel helped alot, except for the noise


NST Pulleys do help in this department :tup::tup:

Zuppy51 08-30-2010 06:23 PM

I actually have the sprint booster in my 335 BMW coupe. The car's an automatic, and it helped immensely. I used to get so annoyed when passing in normal drive, that I found myself always using the sport mode and paddle shifters.

So in normal Automatic mode, it actually works by reducing the lag a lot. I'm not referring to the turbo lag, that's still there. It's not bad, but the two together in normal auto make the car sluggish when passing.


That's the good, the bad, is your fuel economy drops. *Not just me but a friend has it in VW GTI, and another in his 550 bmw.

Don't ask me why, but since I installed it, I lost about 2mpg. I used to get a combined 24.3 in that car. Now I get 21.8-22.2mpg. Same driving style, same shift points, same roads etc. I'm not sure what changed. All I can think of is that it revs sooner, and holds the rpms up which in turn burns more fuel??

Also, when the car's in sport mode using the paddle shifters, i can't tell a difference at all.

Which in theory leads me to believe the ecu runs a different map or something in sport mode on the BMW. Changing the pedal response and shift points.

Now with my Nismo and a 6spd, I think it would be wasted money.
But if you have a auto trans, its worth it.

YMMV....

Cmike2780 08-30-2010 06:30 PM

I had the sprint booster intalled on my RX-8. It had a button that let you change how reposive you wanted the throttle to be. From normal to aggressive. It works to a degree, but it won't make the car any faster or free revving. Cuts maybe a few milliseconds off since it's already sending a signal before your foot goes down or something about the voltage. I can't remember which. I personally don't think the Z really needs it and money can be better spent elsewhere for real power gains.

iwasgointo 08-31-2010 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 701012)
I had the sprint booster intalled on my RX-8. It had a button that let you change how reposive you wanted the throttle to be. From normal to aggressive. It works to a degree, but it won't make the car any faster or free revving. Cuts maybe a few milliseconds off since it's already sending a signal before your foot goes down or something about the voltage. I can't remember which. I personally don't think the Z really needs it and money can be better spent elsewhere for real power gains.

I don't expect the device to increase the power, but I do want a much faster response to my right foot action. Right now, it's especially frustrating when blipping the throttle for a downshift. My Honda Element is much more responsive in this regard.

The latest version of this product offers 3 different settings. I'll probably find that the middle setting will be just fine for me.

Cmike2780 08-31-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwasgointo (Post 701945)
I don't expect the device to increase the power, but I do want a much faster response to my right foot action. Right now, it's especially frustrating when blipping the throttle for a downshift. My Honda Element is much more responsive in this regard.

The latest version of this product offers 3 different settings. I'll probably find that the middle setting will be just fine for me.

I agree. The most aggressive setting is way too sensitive and your passangers will hate you for it. It's a pretty easy install by the way. You just remove the pedal and install the device before the harnest. Easy to take off in case you need to have warranty work done.

MichaelM 09-03-2010 04:28 PM

Sprintg Booster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vehl (Post 699759)
^ if it does what it says, $329 is cheap..

I does what they claim I have one installed

ChrisSlicks 09-03-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 700146)
I emailed the speed booster folks and I'm working out either a free demo or a 30 day trial with money back guarantee. I'll post something as soon as I know more. Hopefully it helps response rather than just make the throttle a hair-trigger on/off switch.

From what I read, yes, it just makes it a hair trigger. Actual response is unchanged, you just don't have to move your foot as far to get the same response. A proper tune should eliminate these issues. $20 in parts being sold for $330 is a bit much for so little.


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