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I keep reading these VDC threads but am curious, are there any comparison videos out there that show the feel of VDC off vs. on from the interior and some shot from the exterior?

(I haven't searched yet)

I like big butts I can not lie.

other brothers can deny

Butt that big butt in my car makes me a worse driver.

I have never driven my Z in any kind of weather, but for the short period of time owning her I have noticed that you kind of need to try hard to get her a little sideways. The car just wants to grip, its crazy. 99.9% my VDC is on, she is just to sexy to wrap around a tree.

dampness on the road after a long dry spell can present extremely slippery conditions. Also could be sand, oil, or diesel in the road. When a car let's go suddenly and spins out of control, it's often because the available traction has changed due to the surface. Can also be caused by overly abrupt inputs to the steering, brakes, or a bad bump on the surface.

A man's got to know his limitations,i drive with mine on.

really? I dont believe you haha

Sometimes sh!t happens. To the best of drivers. VDC IMO is a false sense of security. I turn it off as soon as I start the car because I know how much it can actually limit the cars performance while on the track.

I don't use it at the track. I didn't use it at the track when it started raining.

Finding out the limits of your car shouldn't be happening on the street. If you can afford a brand new 370 and you wanna drive around from time to time like Ken Block, then you can afford one track day to really learn about the car you dropped a load of cash on. Besides, you might just become hooked :D

One does not know his limitations while the training wheels are attached.

I kept the VDC on during my track day at francorchamps.

those metal walls are scary man. + cars worth 10 times my car all around me.

As someone else stated, I find this car very difficult to break loose. With all of the grip combined with the relatively low hp/tourque number, you have to really try to get the tires to slip. You guys must be flooring in tight turns or something. Just practice on smooth applications of the throttle as you exit a turn. As you open up the wheel, feed in more gas. On street roads I am usually not flooring it until the steering wheel is completely opened up. On the track, this may be different as I am usually more aware of my surroundings and how the car is behaving.

I don't think the Nismo is as well balanced, suspension wise, as the standard car. It's Set up with more rear roll stiffness, kinda like it's tuned for drifting. When my Buddy Zpirate had his Stillen rear bar set to full stiff on his sport/tour he got similar intrusion by the VDC/ABS system.

VDC off yo!

http://www.passenlaw.com/uploads/Chi...rain-crash.jpg

Should have keep the VDC on.

should've kept cst on (cst is ferrari's vdc)

http://www.japanauto.co.za/enzo-crash.jpg

who took the back half home?

should have kept EDC (erectile dysfunction control) on

http://www.healthnews.com/files/imag...ion.inline.jpg

Does anyone know how to default VDC off instead of on? Or is there a fuse to pull for permanently disable VDC?

There is a company that makes modules you can wire in that will trigger VDC off on start-up. My lawyers have advised me not to give you this information (and besides I've lost the link)....:tup:

very dangerous and will void warranty if they know it. You might not mind killing yourself but you might kill someone else some time. You get into an accident and they find out the VDC was off or disabled and you had hurt someone you are done with, ins will not cover you and all.

Makes sense...thanks for the input:tup:

I agree it's very dangerous and a mod like that will void your warranty, but I don't believe it would affect insurance. Of course insurance policies vary, but my insurance has never had a clause that required me to keep all driver aids on at all times.

neglegance might play a factor in their decision. Dont know if they can legally say they wont pay if the driver is neglegent but they will probably try when it comes to big bucks. Just not worth it either way.

One doesn't learn his limitations with training wheels attached; one may, however, already know his limitations.

I've had an accident or two and no insurance company ever asked if my driver aids were turned on/off. No way they will have any idea unless you go broadcasting the information.

accidents are one thing but kill someone or going crashing into a house or the likes and they will investigate. Small chance I know but not worth the risk of having it hard wired off so it can be discovered later.

I'm all for safety first myself i never turn off the vdc. But i'll guess i will show my age and ask whats all the fuss about anyway. How about common sense and some driver responsibility. know your limitations and your surroundings.

back in high school i had a 69 GTO with about 400 hp no such thing as vdc,
abs brakes etc. with skinny 15in tires all the muscle cars in the 60's where the same.with those cars it was about driver skill and knowing your limitations and your cars. today guys will turn off the vdc and then don't have a clue what happens next and blame it on the car or the other driver.

uhhh...wow.

If you crashed into a house, VDC was not going to save you, you've gone well beyond the limits of VDC, the car, and your driving abilities. It is not a magic button that let's you drive around like a bat out of hell without worry (and the fact that people seem to think it is worries me). It prevents oversteer and slippage...not complete stupidity.

FYI, you are not going to get into trouble for turning off VDC. You're going to get into trouble for driving in a manner that would crash your car into a house. You'd get into the exact same amount of trouble whether VDC was on or off, and you can accomplish the same stupdity of hitting a house either way.

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Yes but this module is different from just pushing the button and if they found out they would whine about it.

Hell here if I have a accident and they found out if I had a different CBE+intakes I would lose my insurance because my HP would be different than what I insure and they would blame the extra power.

So technically everytime I mod the car I have to go back and tell them "yo I got new intakes" and then they put "cartuning" in my file.

causing me to pay alot more.

Man that sucks. it wierd how each country differs on all this stuff.

this I know what Im saying is when it comes to a company paying lots of money out to cover a claim for a huge hospital bill and repair to property and those hurt will investigate to posibbly get out of it and if they find things that are done to disable safety devices they have a way out. So hard wiring any safety features off is asking for trouble. Not mention a big law suit to boot from the innocent ones.

Kinda like turning off the air bags and asking for coverage when you get hurt from not having them.

I've removed the air bag steering wheel from my Miata, but I'm confident that the doors will be all I need to protect me.

The doors form a protective shield around the occupant.

In a Miata, side impacts are impossible. The Miata Doors sense the incoming vehcile and trigger a high explosive blast directing energy towards the oncoming car, thus destroying it and stopping it in its path. Collision averted.

When Jack Bauer assaulted President Logan's motorcade in the final season of 24, he used a Miata door as a shield.

Back on topic for a second, yes, the VDC has made me a worse driver. It always tells me to run red lights, or that hitting some pedestrian is worth "10 points". Sometimes it grabs the steering wheel while I'm driving.

The worst, though, was when it had me smoke some dope. At first I thought it was just pot, but then VDC said to me, "Didn't know you liked to get wet, dog." I asked him what that meant, and he said, "Butt-naked. Ill. Sherms. Dust. PCP. Primos. P-Dog. That's what you had. That's what you were smoking, you couldn't taste it?" VDC very strongly resembles Denzel Washington.

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KP Technologies for all your turn it off, I wanna drive like an idiot and it doesn't let me SUPER DORIFTO needs.

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