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pquaid 07-29-2010 03:20 PM

470 hp 370z greddy tt finished!!!
 
Jotech making final tuning adjustments today I and will have it tomorrow!! I will post pics and video if anyone interested. I was there last night when it was on dyno and it was amazing! Anyone in DFW area interested in seeing it stop by jotech and I will be around tomorrow after 5 to pick it up.

theDreamer 07-29-2010 03:23 PM

What PSI you running?
What type of dyno?
What are the torque numbers?

Nitex 07-29-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 650979)
What PSI you running?
What type of dyno?
What are the torque numbers?

TT's are making more HP for sure.. seems torque is close from what im seeing.

pquaid 07-29-2010 03:44 PM

450 hp @ 6.4 and 470 hp at 8.1
Dynojet I believe and will check on torque tomorrow I think it was close

vividracing 07-29-2010 03:45 PM

nice! can't wait to see pics, dyno sheet and more!!!

theDreamer 07-29-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 650989)
TT's are making more HP for sure.. seems torque is close from what im seeing.

:confused:
More than what? I am just curios about his numbers, only a few have done the greddy kit so far.

theDreamer 07-29-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pquaid (Post 651007)
450 hp @ 6.4 and 470 hp at 8.1
Dynojet I believe and will check on torque tomorrow I think it was close

Good numbers, cannot wait to see some graphs. :tup:

Nitex 07-29-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 651009)
:confused:
More than what? I am just curios about his numbers, only a few have done the greddy kit so far.

Im sorry i meant they are making more than SC setups. I realize this is the norm for turbo vs SC, and expected from a higher cost kit. I was curious how close the SC kits were going to come, after advertised numbers were so close to those of the TT kits. You tube 370z TT dyno. A few have made 500+ on a dynojet.

fullmonty 07-29-2010 04:24 PM

In for the graph!

theDreamer 07-29-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 651062)
Im sorry i meant they are making more than SC setups. I realize this is the norm for turbo vs SC, and expected from a higher cost kit. I was curious how close the SC kits were going to come, after advertised numbers were so close to those of the TT kits. You tube 370z TT dyno. A few have made 500+ on a dynojet.

True, I will be on a dynojet hopefully this week with a SC kit and we will see how it goes, first runs were on a mustang dyno and it was all off. :(

pquaid 07-29-2010 05:37 PM

working on new post now with video and pics

Jordo! 07-29-2010 05:45 PM

What engine management are you using?

NYBladeZ 07-29-2010 06:15 PM

I don't think it's really accurate to say that the TT's are currently making more than the SC's. Frankly from what I've seen both are making near identical numbers. A slight edge goes to the TT's but you're talking about maybe an addition 15whp. Considering that TT's cost much more and SC's are just coming out without any aggressive tunes or pulleys yet its to early to call it.

I believe that when the dust settles stage 1 TT's and SC's will come down to the driver, SC's might benefit from the flatter torque delivery. The limiting factor won't be the FI setup it will be the block. The stock block is said to safely be able to withstand 500whp, with is obtainable either way. The one clear advantage TT guys have is longetivity. When we start seeing built motors the TT's will really take off, until then it'll probably be dead even.

FuszNissan 07-29-2010 06:17 PM

Seems about right on the numbers.

Red__Zed 07-29-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 651229)
I don't think it's really accurate to say that the TT's are currently making more than the SC's. Frankly from what I've seen both are making near identical numbers. A slight edge goes to the TT's but you're talking about maybe an addition 15whp. Considering that TT's cost much more and SC's are just coming out without any aggressive tunes or pulleys yet its to early to call it.

I believe that when the dust settles stage 1 TT's and SC's will come down to the driver, SC's might benefit from the flatter torque delivery. The limiting factor won't be the FI setup it will be the block. The stock block is said to safely be able to withstand 500whp, with is obtainable either way. The one clear advantage TT guys have is longetivity. When we start seeing built motors the TT's will really take off, until then it'll probably be dead even.

I've been pretty surprised at how low the numbers have been from TT setups...

PapoZalsa 07-29-2010 08:51 PM

Dyno Sheets!

:worthless:

Jeffblue 07-29-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 651229)
I don't think it's really accurate to say that the TT's are currently making more than the SC's. Frankly from what I've seen both are making near identical numbers. A slight edge goes to the TT's but you're talking about maybe an addition 15whp. Considering that TT's cost much more and SC's are just coming out without any aggressive tunes or pulleys yet its to early to call it.

I believe that when the dust settles stage 1 TT's and SC's will come down to the driver, SC's might benefit from the flatter torque delivery. The limiting factor won't be the FI setup it will be the block. The stock block is said to safely be able to withstand 500whp, with is obtainable either way. The one clear advantage TT guys have is longetivity. When we start seeing built motors the TT's will really take off, until then it'll probably be dead even.

:iagree:

KillerBee370 07-29-2010 11:47 PM

I want to see a spec sheet that shows the stock block being able to handle 500 hp.

billydsz 07-30-2010 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 651786)
I want to see a spec sheet that shows the stock block being able to handle 500 hp.

Well there's handling it, and then there's the question of motor life. I would imagine you are dramatically reducing the expected mileage to a rebuild.

As you increase the stress on mechanical components, you reduce their fatigue life dramatically. So highly stressed parts are going to fail alot sooner. If you keep the stress level low enough, those same components may last for an infinite amount of time. So when Nissan engineers design these components, they are shooting for x number of cycles to failure (maybe 300,000 miles at an average rpm of 3000 as a guess) at about 270hp max to the wheels. So if you double the max HP, you probably decrease cycles to failure at least 5-10 fold maybe more is my guess. But you'd have to know the actual increase in stress and the material types of each component to know for sure.

CBRich 07-30-2010 07:55 PM

I'm pretty sure Forged said from their block inspection that they thought the engine could safely handle 500 whp.

Jordo! 07-30-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 653296)
I'm pretty sure Forged said from their block inspection that they thought the engine could safely handle 500 whp.

No one's going to know how much power the engine can produce without breaking something until someone breaks something...

CBRich 07-31-2010 06:26 AM

But completely tearing a block down and looking at the components can definitely give you a good idea of what you've got. These guys build engines. They should know what these things look like.

Pharmacist 07-31-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 653877)
But completely tearing a block down and looking at the components can definitely give you a good idea of what you've got. These guys build engines. They should know what these things look like.

what does it look like? it's just a lump of metal. how can anyone tell by "looking" how durable an engine is?

Dembflyr 07-31-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 654006)
what does it look like? it's just a lump of metal. how can anyone tell by "looking" how durable an engine is?

Just in case you aren't being facetious. Those with many years of experience with building high horsepower applications can just look at that lump of metal and give you a good idea of the durability of said lump of metal.
I would imagine (because I am not one of those people) that you could tell by checking the thickness of the higher stress areas and where the block is braced or ribbed.
Take for instance the small block chevy, there are some blocks that have only two bolts on each main journal that holds the crankshaft in place. There are others that use four bolts on each main to hold the crank.
Which do you think would handle more power?

Supergoji 07-31-2010 12:47 PM

for our applications, Turbos will always outpower surperchargers.

and with the correct setup they will have near identical response.

kbmoney 07-31-2010 01:35 PM

Ay my Man, u got to post some vids. You reppin the DFW. Represent!

LateralG'z 07-31-2010 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supergoji (Post 654035)
for our applications, Turbos will always outpower surperchargers.

and with the correct setup they will have near identical response.

That is not a totally true statement, and which applications are you talking about so I know what your applying that statement too?

LateralG'z 07-31-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 651786)
I want to see a spec sheet that shows the stock block being able to handle 500 hp.

:iagree: who has that written on paper from Nissan?

fullmonty 07-31-2010 03:52 PM

Still no dyno sheet posted?

CBRich 07-31-2010 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 654006)
what does it look like? it's just a lump of metal. how can anyone tell by "looking" how durable an engine is?

Contrary to popular belief there is a lot of stuff inside that "lump of metal."

Jordo! 08-01-2010 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dembflyr (Post 654021)
Just in case you aren't being facetious. Those with many years of experience with building high horsepower applications can just look at that lump of metal and give you a good idea of the durability of said lump of metal.

This is absolutely true, but ultimately a limit isn't known until it's breached at least once.

I'd just be happy to know how meaty the OEM piston ringlands are... that's usually the first thing to break even with an otherwise good tune.

Red__Zed 08-01-2010 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 654667)
This is absolutely true, but ultimately a limit isn't known until it's breached at least once.

I'd just be happy to know how meaty the OEM piston ringlands are... that's usually the first thing to break even with an otherwise good tune.

Yep. And it will take a few people breaking stuff to identify the true weakpoints of the motor.

pquaid 08-01-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbmoney (Post 654069)
Ay my Man, u got to post some vids. You reppin the DFW. Represent!

check out my newest thread/post pics and video on it


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