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jacknismo 07-21-2010 11:04 AM

Ouch
 
Just got my *** handed to by Audi S6 in Buckhead...

kenchan 07-21-2010 11:06 AM

so the S6 rammed into your arse?

Red370 07-21-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jacknismo (Post 637442)
Just got my *** handed to by Audi S6 in Buckhead...

as well you should, 435hp and 398 ft./lbs will do that.

6MT 07-21-2010 11:07 AM

Are you street racing (?)

Kirkster 07-21-2010 11:07 AM

LOL...

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They can make it all better....

GZ3 07-21-2010 11:10 AM

LOL how bad?

Red370 07-21-2010 11:11 AM

and thats what granny shifting and not double clutching will do.

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WarmAndSCSI 07-21-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 637451)
as well you should, 435hp and 398 ft./lbs will do that.

Not when the new S6 has a curb weight of 4486 lb... holy fat pig. lol

370Z - 203 bhp/ton
S6 - 194 bhp/ton

370Z should be faster up until drag starts to play a bigger limiting factor.

Must have been a high speed encounter or lack of driver skill ;) A stock S6 is only a high 13's car.

Jeffblue 07-21-2010 11:13 AM

i wouldnt worry about it. i don't know what buckhead is, but i'll give you the benefit of hte doubt and assume that its a track although the s6 (429hp/4210lb power to weight ratio of .1019) has almost the exact same power to weight ratio has your nismo Z (350hp/3300lbs power to weight ratio of .106) their car has 398lb-ft of torque, while yours has 276, and that torque is on the low end, meaning they're gonna have more giddy up off the line. Plus he's got an automatic, so he just needs to step on the gas to unleash the power. Be happy, you spent half as much on your car, its its probably more fun than his. And keep in mind with 40k in mods (the price difference between the s6 and the Z) you would blow him out of the water.

Red370 07-21-2010 11:14 AM

the car probably wasnt stock either, those engines respond very well to mods.

kenchan 07-21-2010 11:17 AM

:yawn:

WarmAndSCSI 07-21-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 637465)
the car probably wasnt stock either, those engines respond very well to mods.

The V10?

I think you're mistaking the S6 for the old S4 with the 2.7TT V6... can't really squeeze that much more out of a relatively high-strung V10 without making it ungodly loud.

TongMan 07-21-2010 11:20 AM

don't worry...there are always bigger fish.

Zsteve 07-21-2010 11:20 AM

it always seems to go back to the car cost more than ours when we get beat but when we beat a honda we dont mention that ours cost more. who cares about price that has nothing to do with it as the difference in price isnt all in the engine alone. it has more TQ so it gets going faster and it beat the Z. TQ is where the Z lacks and thats why I want the SC, to help with that area.

Red370 07-21-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 637471)
The V10?

I think you're mistaking the S6 for the old S4 with the 2.7TT V6... can't really squeeze that much more out of a relatively high-strung V10 without making it ungodly loud.

no sir, over on audiworld I believe someone bolted on an additional 40whp with NA mods. I go there from time to time. It isnt too far fetched, look how much power our cars make with bolt ons/tune. I'd say our engine is almost maxed out from the factory, so to extract the power we do, its pretty damn impressive.

Mt Tam I am 07-21-2010 11:21 AM

I just read article @ Audi S6 Review – Edmunds.com .

Unless it was modified, Ouch is right. Sorry.

GZ3 07-21-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637475)
it always seems to go back to the car cost more than ours when we get beat but when we beat a honda we dont mention that ours cost more. who cares about price that has nothing to do with it as the difference in price isnt all in the engine alone. it has more TQ so it gets going faster and it beat the Z. TQ is where the Z lacks and thats why I want the SC, to help with that area.

if your going FI and focusing on TQ, a turbo will do allot better than a supercharger...why not go that route?

Zsteve 07-21-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 637482)
if your going FI and focusing on TQ, a turbo will do allot better than a supercharger...why not go that route?

too much money and Im hoping the SC will be less maint than the turbos.

WarmAndSCSI 07-21-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 637476)
no sir, over on audiworld I believe someone bolted on an additional 40whp with NA mods. I go there from time to time. It isnt too far fetched, look how much power our cars make with bolt ons/tune. I'd say our engine is almost maxed out from the factory, so to extract the power we do, its pretty damn impressive.

We also make the same with N/A mods... but our 40 WHP means more than on a car that weights half a ton more. ;)

I understand what you're saying, it just would take a LOT more power to go against a 370Z mod-for-mod.

Red370 07-21-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637485)
too much money and Im hoping the SC will be less maint than the turbos.

what he said.

GZ3 07-21-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637485)
too much money and Im hoping the SC will be less maint than the turbos.

true, true,.... maint is a biaatch... thats also why am considering a SC

WarmAndSCSI 07-21-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637475)
it always seems to go back to the car cost more than ours when we get beat but when we beat a honda we dont mention that ours cost more. who cares about price that has nothing to do with it as the difference in price isnt all in the engine alone. it has more TQ so it gets going faster and it beat the Z. TQ is where the Z lacks and thats why I want the SC, to help with that area.

Torque doesn't matter unless you're racing in top gear starting at 3500 rpm :rofl2:

Our engine has an awesome powerband where it actually matters (5500 to 7500 rpm), and I'm sure theirs does as well.

I'm not sure why people would be so caught up about low-end torque on a Z car. They've always been high-strung and gutless down low, with the exception of the 300ZX TT and maybe the 350Z.

WarmAndSCSI 07-21-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637485)
too much money and Im hoping the SC will be less maint than the turbos.

If we're talking about a Vortech blower, you'll be in for an unpleasant surprise long-term.

They're not all they're cracked up to be, but it'll be plenty reliable below 10 PSI. It's at 20+ PSI that they start to get iffy. I would know, unfortunately :(

Zsteve 07-21-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 637492)
Torque doesn't matter unless you're racing in top gear starting at 3500 rpm :rofl2:

Our engine has an awesome powerband where it actually matters (5500 to 7500 rpm), and I'm sure theirs does as well.

I'm not sure why people would be so caught up about low-end torque on a Z car. They've always been high-strung and gutless down low, with the exception of the 300ZX TT and maybe the 350Z.

which is why it needs tq there and why low end tq cars will get the jump on us.

Zsteve 07-21-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 637496)
If we're talking about a Vortech blower, you'll be in for an unpleasant surprise long-term.

They're not all they're cracked up to be, but it'll be plenty reliable below 10 PSI. It's at 20+ PSI that they start to get iffy. I would know, unfortunately :(

Im just looking at GTM right now with no more than 8 psi and hope that will get me over the hump I want.

BeachZTT 07-21-2010 12:52 PM

Wanna borrow my TT? :)

Zsteve 07-21-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT (Post 637682)
Wanna borrow my TT? :)

Man Id love to drive a TT Z.

WarmAndSCSI 07-21-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637531)
which is why it needs tq there and why low end tq cars will get the jump on us.

Again, only if you roll race from 3500 rpm. ;) As far as acceleration is concerned, torque doesn't mean anything - all that matters is effective horsepower. If you're already within your powerband, you're set.

BTW, a centrifugal supercharger doesn't add much if any low-end torque. It'll probably start giving you extra power starting at 4000 rpm or so, with gains climbing from that point. I think that's accurate based upon the Stillen and GTM supercharger dyno sheets I've seen. Centrifugal superchargers are all about making more top end torque/horsepower. Imagine your torque curve being absolutely flat from 3500 or 4000 to redline - that's what this type of supercharger will get you.

Red370 07-21-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637686)
Man Id love to drive a TT Z.

Reup bonus may pay for mine :)

theDreamer 07-21-2010 01:04 PM

Pfht, TT kits are so 2000, this is 2010...SC on imports is the new things. :tup:

XwChriswX 07-21-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jacknismo (Post 637442)
Just got my *** handed to by Audi S6 in Buckhead...

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 637452)
Are you street racing (?)

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 637457)
LOL how bad?


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Zsteve 07-21-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 637697)
Reup bonus may pay for mine :)

I would need to do a 6 month deployment with this job to get some big money and I cant do that for the first year Im in this job. But after a year a 6 month deployment will net me another 30K besides my regular pay

Zsteve 07-21-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 637700)

it was on a private driveway

6MT 07-21-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637704)
it was on a private driveway

Huh?

Red370 07-21-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637702)
I would need to do a 6 month deployment with this job to get some big money and I cant do that for the first year Im in this job. But after a year a 6 month deployment will net me another 30K besides my regular pay

oh damn, well in that case, build the block and boost it to 20 psi :tup:

Zsteve 07-21-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 637706)
oh damn, well in that case, build the block and boost it to 20 psi :tup:

or GTR with upgrades

speedoflife 07-21-2010 01:22 PM

You probably lost because you were in too high a gear.
Reference to sarcasm

XwChriswX 07-21-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 637704)
it was on a private driveway

Does that make it different? Pretty sure the rules are clear.


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