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snmalone 02-23-2009 09:45 AM

the new 370z - really that fast?
 
hey guys, im reading all the way through this forum, really nice threads here to gain some serious info about the new z. On my search about facts i realized that the new z is maybe not as fast as i expected a 330hp v6 powered car to be. in first tests the 0-100 mark is 12.8 seconds which is about what a 335i coupe can do or 1 sec faster than the 350z. i expected a bit more from the improved z. so its in a range of a stock nsx, mitsu evos and so on. just hope that there are some improvements possible with simple bolt ons like i/h/e. im only talking about pure acceleration - handling for sure is great!

id really like to get this baby once its out here in europe!

frost 02-23-2009 10:13 AM

I think if you asked the majority of people around here, they were a little unenthusiastic when the HP numbers were announced. Most of us seemed to want about 350hp. That being said,most of us love the car so much that we are willing to overlook it. This car (from someone who drives a lot of cars) is a fine mix of performance to luxury to value.

G&M Performance 02-23-2009 10:21 AM

There is plenty of room for improvement if you've studied what's available and will be available in the near future. If you want some good straight line speed, look into investing into a supercharger or turbocharger setup and you'll have everything you will ever need. As far as this car goes from an OEM standpoint, I think Nissan did a commendable job. Frost is right about the Z being the Jack of All Trades.

!xoible 02-23-2009 12:27 PM

i honestly wouldnt compare the Z to a 335. the car feels are completely different. it's sad when people base their opinions on a 1/4 mile run.

BanningZ 02-23-2009 12:35 PM

You never know, There are cars that gain +10HP from a K&N filter, so lets give it time, besides
diff dynos=diff results.

Its still the best bang for your buck with HP and reliability.

Greg 02-23-2009 12:37 PM

It's not all about speed...

snmalone 02-23-2009 01:06 PM

for sure its not all about speed, but that beeing said already brings up one little weakness of the new z, one that also the old model had, it could have a bit more power. the whole package is really really nice and nissan has done a great job since the design of this car really grows on me. the only thing is the performance. not that im only into straight forward acceleration but this already kept me away from the 350z, i used to have an s2000 before and i really want to make a step forward in pure acceleration and power. sure the z has torque compared to the s, but is it that much faster?

anyway i made my decision and i hope that i can order one soon. the whole package convinced me.

FairmanZ 02-23-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by snmalone (Post 34367)
in first tests the 0-100 mark is 12.8 seconds which is about what a 335i coupe can do or 1 sec faster than the 350z. i expected a bit more from the improved z.

Out of the big 3 car mags in the US, R&T recorded a slowest 0-100 time of 12.8 secs. But they stated that their test was done at a high elevation of 1500 ft. and that at sea level they expect the car to be even faster.

The other two, Car & Driver and MotorTrend, got respective 0-100 times of 12.1 and 12.0 secs.

frost 02-23-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snmalone (Post 34478)
for sure its not all about speed, but that beeing said already brings up one little weakness of the new z, one that also the old model had, it could have a bit more power. the whole package is really really nice and nissan has done a great job since the design of this car really grows on me. the only thing is the performance. not that im only into straight forward acceleration but this already kept me away from the 350z, i used to have an s2000 before and i really want to make a step forward in pure acceleration and power. sure the z has torque compared to the s, but is it that much faster?

anyway i made my decision and i hope that i can order one soon. the whole package convinced me.

It could have a bit more power, but the Z is on par with its "competitors"

alan93rsa 02-23-2009 02:30 PM

Having had both the S2000 and a 335i I am quite happy with the Z. I wouldn't go back to either.

m4a1mustang 02-23-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by !xoible (Post 34435)
it's sad when people base their opinions on a 1/4 mile run.

+1. A lot of my old Mustang buddies don't understand why my next ride is going to be a Z simply because they only see performance in terms of the 1/4 mile. This car is so much more than that.

dwsq 02-24-2009 07:08 PM

Having
 
Having done 140MPH in this car within the last two weeks, there is plenty of power and speed left in my 370z, at 120 you can feel the power coming as you climb to 130 then 140 and for me, when is the next time I am going to a track and run the 1/4 mile, never. But I have yet to leave a red light and not get my way to the front of the pack.

And I have always valued roll on speed, How fast can I go from 55 to 75 to get around an idiot on the highway, and this car rolls on power.

D

snmalone 02-25-2009 01:03 AM

that sounds good. i was a bit worried cause many people here complained about the lack of power of the 350z, that they are not as powerful as numbers say and dynos proved that many had very low results. but it seems that the new engine is healthier and stronger...

Frick@DDM 02-25-2009 01:32 AM

I am VERY impressed with these new Z's.

Ours made 299 to the wheels with just High Flow Cats.

The 350z's have a hard time getting to that with all of the bolt ons.

All in all I like the power of the the 370

kdo2milger 02-25-2009 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 34647)
+1. A lot of my old Mustang buddies don't understand why my next ride is going to be a Z simply because they only see performance in terms of the 1/4 mile. This car is so much more than that.

I have to agree with you, all of my buds and co-workers are saying the same...and I also agree that its NOT all about the quarter mile time.

I look for great performance in many areas, and it seems the 370z has been consistently in the top of all of those areas, from interior styling, to exterior styling, to engine performance, to chassis performance.

SiXK 02-25-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by snmalone (Post 35290)
that sounds good. i was a bit worried cause many people here complained about the lack of power of the 350z, that they are not as powerful as numbers say and dynos proved that many had very low results. but it seems that the new engine is healthier and stronger...

In comparison to my old 350Z the one thing I really like is the power delivery of the 370Z. Seems to have alot more pull in the upper RPMs than my 350Z did. You can get on the 370Z and it pulls hard all the way to redline.

!xoible 02-25-2009 10:39 AM

Honestly, not to piss on anyone's parade, but the car isnt at all that fast especially when you start hitting over 5000 RPM. that's when the engine starts choking and it really doesnt deliver much power after that. remember this is based on a 3.0 engine that's been bored out quite a few times. they need a new engine to get the right power with the right rev. even though i am guilty of street racing often (especially when you're in an asian car, u get harrassed all the time) but i really dont give a rats *** about that or 1/4 mile.

Another thing which i am not sure about but i _think_ the steering gets too light when you get over a 100. on my test drive i only went 100 per dealer's request, and i felt steering going that route. but judging from my previous G, and Z experience i doubt it'll be too pleasant or safe going over 120 anyway

the car still puts me ahead of traffic, by far which is good enough for me. but to me the Z isnt about that, it's about 1. looks (which is very subjective), 2. the fact it's small and nimble, 3. could be awesome on the track (gotta figure out what to do with VDC tho), 4. cheap, 5. exhaust notes, 6. takes crazy wheel offset. yes i want the car to mod it, drop it, put wheels, etc.

CrownR426 02-25-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by !xoible (Post 35392)
Honestly, not to piss on anyone's parade, but the car isnt at all that fast especially when you start hitting over 5000 RPM. that's when the engine starts choking and it really doesnt deliver much power after that. remember this is based on a 3.0 engine that's been bored out quite a few times. they need a new engine to get the right power with the right rev. even though i am guilty of street racing often (especially when you're in an asian car, u get harrassed all the time) but i really dont give a rats *** about that or 1/4 mile.

Another thing which i am not sure about but i _think_ the steering gets too light when you get over a 100. on my test drive i only went 100 per dealer's request, and i felt steering going that route. but judging from my previous G, and Z experience i doubt it'll be too pleasant or safe going over 120 anyway

the car still puts me ahead of traffic, by far which is good enough for me. but to me the Z isnt about that, it's about 1. looks (which is very subjective), 2. the fact it's small and nimble, 3. could be awesome on the track (gotta figure out what to do with VDC tho), 4. cheap, 5. exhaust notes, 6. takes crazy wheel offset. yes i want the car to mod it, drop it, put wheels, etc.

Coming from an M3 remember!
I agree with almost everything you say.
It's definetly not slow though and it's the bang for the buck!
:driving:

!xoible 02-25-2009 12:03 PM

yah but how often do i really "need" to go over 120? im not saying i do not. i almost hit 145 on daily basis on my way to work, but do i "need" to do that? probably not. i also have to admit the m3 doesnt "feel" fast either. my 335 felt faster especially on low range. the m3 is not a GTR, but when i made my decision on it the 1/4 mile was definitely not in the equation otherwise i'd be in a C63!

the car makes perfect sense! i am also considering the old 350z since there's probably hella deals on them right now.

ctzn 02-25-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !xoible (Post 35442)
yah but how often do i really "need" to go over 120? im not saying i do not. i almost hit 145 on daily basis on my way to work, but do i "need" to do that? probably not. i also have to admit the m3 doesnt "feel" fast either. my 335 felt faster especially on low range. the m3 is not a GTR, but when i made my decision on it the 1/4 mile was definitely not in the equation otherwise i'd be in a C63!

the car makes perfect sense! i am also considering the old 350z since there's probably hella deals on them right now.

:icon14:

That's a bit scary to hear, I seldom have need to go much north of 80, going over 120 on any public road with other traffic around is nuts.

CrownR426 02-25-2009 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 35453)
:icon14:

That's a bit scary to hear, I seldom have need to go much north of 80, going over 120 on any public road with other traffic around is nuts.

Well you get a fast car to drive fast in it.
I hope you don't just look at it...

ctzn 02-25-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 35455)
Well you get a fast car to drive fast in it.
I hope you don't just look at it...

That has nothing to do with driving 145 on public roads. Buying a powerful sports car is not an excuse to go that fast on public roads, and it certainly isn't an excuse to put the lives of others at risk.

I certainly hope you aren't implying that if you buy the sports car and do not drive that fast on public roads, you are simply buying it to look at.

!xoible 02-25-2009 01:13 PM

it's wrong to go over speed limit and it's definitely unsafe and im endangering my life (since there's usually no other people on that road). but the temptation man!!! going thru the gears redlining in each one of them, i find myself at 145 by 4th gear and that's when i go "oh ****"!!!

when i first bought my G35 my criteria was to be just ahead of traffic in case i need the power. then i got greedy

ctzn 02-25-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !xoible (Post 35467)
it's wrong to go over speed limit and it's definitely unsafe and im endangering my life (since there's usually no other people on that road). but the temptation man!!! going thru the gears redlining in each one of them, i find myself at 145 by 4th gear and that's when i go "oh ****"!!!

when i first bought my G35 my criteria was to be just ahead of traffic in case i need the power. then i got greedy

I understand, it happens. I have found myself going a bit faster than expected my fair share of time, but 145 is pushing it.

To stay on topic, the car is plenty fast for me, I never drag race so massive amounts of straight line acceleration is not my priority. That said, the car is certainly plenty quick to get around traffic or up to speed. The car really shines in the twisties though for me.

CrownR426 02-25-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 35458)
That has nothing to do with driving 145 on public roads. Buying a powerful sports car is not an excuse to go that fast on public roads, and it certainly isn't an excuse to put the lives of others at risk.

I certainly hope you aren't implying that if you buy the sports car and do not drive that fast on public roads, you are simply buying it to look at.

Of course not!
Who speeds on public roads?! :wtf2:

BanningZ 02-25-2009 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 35458)
That has nothing to do with driving 145 on public roads. Buying a powerful sports car is not an excuse to go that fast on public roads, and it certainly isn't an excuse to put the lives of others at risk.

Rep points for safety. If I'm doing 100+mph its going to be on a track or closed environment.

ctzn 02-25-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 35530)
Of course not!
Who speeds on public roads?! :wtf2:

:shakes head: Seriously?

It is incomprehensible that you are defending driving 145 on public roads, there is a massive difference between speeding and going over 100 let alone 145. I would love to hear a cohesive response from you justifying that excessive speed...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 35553)
Rep points for safety. If I'm doing 100+mph its going to be on a track or closed environment.

:tup:

!xoible 02-25-2009 05:58 PM

k guys we all know it's wrong and dangerous. save this thread before it goes into bashing

shumby 02-25-2009 06:04 PM

maxed it out to 250km/hr in my G smart no fun yes. do I do it all the time no should I ever do it no but sometimes with a wide open road in the summer the tunes blasting you got to.

BanningZ 02-25-2009 06:08 PM

^^ we need some of those Canadian roads here. I can't think of a single place in Oregon that I could get away with that, without endangering someone else or having my license revoked.

shumby 02-25-2009 06:14 PM

the highway from edmonton to calgary is like 300KM of stright road.

dwsq 02-26-2009 07:00 PM

Love driving over the limit
 
It is our right as free Americans to drive way over, under and all around the posted speed limit, and I as a proud veteran could careless about the posted speed limit who really follows it at anytime (except in school crossing areas)

Whats next someone sues the car companies because they make cars that break the speed limit, like when some lard **s sued the fast food joints because the food made them fat, no the food didn't make you fat, you got fat eating way to much food at that joint....

everyone here knows when it's time to pour on the speed and when to back off, but don't ever give up that right to be loud and proud and break the law... it is the only law in this country where the cop sits there waiting, entrapment, you don't see them sitting for a bank robber, a mugging, a burgulary, nope just some old lady doing 65 in a 55 getting caught by mr.entrapment...

D

shumby 02-26-2009 07:02 PM

I am canadian

Greg 02-26-2009 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwsq (Post 36060)
It is our right as free Americans to drive way over, under and all around the posted speed limit, and I as a proud veteran could careless about the posted speed limit who really follows it at anytime (except in school crossing areas)

Whats next someone sues the car companies because they make cars that break the speed limit, like when some lard **s sued the fast food joints because the food made them fat, no the food didn't make you fat, you got fat eating way to much food at that joint....

everyone here knows when it's time to pour on the speed and when to back off, but don't ever give up that right to be loud and proud and break the law... it is the only law in this country where the cop sits there waiting, entrapment, you don't see them sitting for a bank robber, a mugging, a burgulary, nope just some old lady doing 65 in a 55 getting caught by mr.entrapment...

D

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