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MightyBobo 07-14-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 624642)
A modern car shouldn't need babysitting. These aren't Ferraris.

And yet, they are still highly complex machines that have many working parts.

Jordo! 07-14-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 624638)
So much for the "bad luck" theory... :rolleyes:

There is absolutely no reason a brand new engine (or even one with some miles on it) should drink up that much oil within one change interval unless something is seriously wrong with it.

While he might have avoided the need for a tow truck, that engine must have been fvcked from the day it was built.

Mt Tam I am 07-15-2010 10:36 AM

I just hit 1800 miles. I've added two quarts and am down half as we speak. If the OP had a similar problem as I, waiting until 3200+ miles would put close to out of oil.

Originally I only thought to check my oil at 500 miles because of high oil temps (245* during break in under 4000 revs). I was down 3/4 qt. Down another 1/2 at 1000 miles, now 2 1/2 qts at 1800.

billydsz 07-15-2010 11:36 AM

Any new car that loses more than a half quart between oil changes is defective.

Jordo! 07-15-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EazyD (Post 624924)
Going to throw in my $0.02 and mention that which you are checking your oil, also keep an eye on your coolant!!

I failed to do this, and didn't notice my coolant getting lower and lower due to a crack in the radiator. After overheating my vehicle, I now have a cracked cylinder head among lotttts of other parts need to be replaced. All I had to do was keep an eye on the fluid level. Stuck in Maine right now at my father's mechanic's mercy.

The temp gauge didn't show any overheating? :ugh:

A tip for everyone, if the car starts overheating, crank up the heat on full blast -- that will draw heat off the motor to the heater core and should cool things down enough to find a safe place to pull over. Then call a tow truck.

(Disclaimer: At least this trick used to work -- not sure if more modern cars have the core set up differently... if you don't see temps coming down, get off the road ASAP.)

An overheating engine will potentially warp the head and can murder an auto trans pretty quickly.

Zsteve 07-15-2010 01:59 PM

it was the take it easy break in period. You have to drive em like you stole em so they wont fail on you.

WShade 07-15-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz (Post 625526)
Any new car that loses more than a half quart between oil changes is defective.

That is not true. 1.5 qt per 3K miles is within spec for some manufactures. Subaru being one.

Matt 07-15-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 625855)
That is not true. 1.5 qt per 3K miles is within spec for some manufactures. Subaru being one.

Ouch. I think I'd return a car that was burning that much oil. Do they burn at the same rate for the entire life of the engine?

WShade 07-15-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 625904)
Ouch. I think I'd return a car that was burning that much oil. Do they burn at the same rate for the entire life of the engine?

Yes sir. A running joke in the Subaru world is to buy 8 qts of oil per oil change because you will need the extra 3 before the next oil change.

SkyZ 07-15-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 625904)
Ouch. I think I'd return a car that was burning that much oil. Do they burn at the same rate for the entire life of the engine?

usually they dont. ive owned subies for a long time and ive never even had anything close to that type of consumption even though it might be "in spec". and yea i heard a lot of Z owner's consumption go down after time

Modshack 07-15-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz (Post 625526)
Any new car that loses more than a half quart between oil changes is defective.

BS...Most manufacturers have a 1 Qt per 1000 mile reference before they'll even talk to you about a potential defect..

FuszNissan 07-15-2010 02:59 PM

It has to be more than a 1qt

wilsonp 07-15-2010 06:55 PM

I had to use the heater trick before on an old Dodge Colt - it couldn't handle going down the highway in Florida (shuttle launch) so opened the windows, turned on the heater to cool the engine :D

WarmAndSCSI 07-15-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 625928)
BS...Most manufacturers have a 1 Qt per 1000 mile reference before they'll even talk to you about a potential defect..

That may be technically true, but no properly built and properly broken-in engine should ever consume nearly that much oil. Even engines I've built consumed at most a quart every 3500 miles, under very loose piston-to-cylinder wall and ring gap clearances and high specific output conditions (i.e. 23-25 psi of boost on a 3.0 L V6).

A modern OEM engine ought to never consume any noticeable amount of oil on a single OCI unless you're racing with it. If it does consume, there is most likely something "off" - probably poor break-in. It still gets me that manufacturers suggest an "easy" break-in when they know it's worse for the engine.

VCuomo 07-15-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 624919)
There is absolutely no reason a brand new engine (or even one with some miles on it) should drink up that much oil within one change interval unless something is seriously wrong with it.

While he might have avoided the need for a tow truck, that engine must have been fvcked from the day it was built.

Not true. Even on a broken-in engine he could have lost 3.5 quarts of oil over the 5700km that the OP drove and still be considered within spec (see Modshack's note above). On a new engine, he could have lost even more. That's why I said "So much for 'bad luck'."


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