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kenchan 07-03-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 604321)
Best protection, a garage!

with ADT. :tup:

garage alone they can break-in and take your stuff.

yzhang12 07-03-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rha600 (Post 604812)
how did you find them?

The police came out and finger printed the entire outside of my truck when they stole my SRT wheels. They followed up by sending a guy out to collect the video we had of them taking them right out of the driveway and they followed up a couple days later to get some photos of the wheels so they could take them around to pawn shops and such.

I still haven't heard anything since them and this was back in April. Bad part is that like others have said, they can always come back for them again. And I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think the insurance company will keep paying the tab. I'd LOVE to catch someone trying to take my rims. I leave for work very early in the AM and the best thing ever would be to come out and see them trying to get my rims.

As for the alarm, if the tilt is sensitive it will work. There is no way they are going to put a brick under the car and then let the air out. Try it, and I promise you, you won't be able to pull that wheel off very easily. They have to jack it up, and with that, they have to jack it up far enough to take the "slack" out of the suspension before the tire comes off the ground so it should work.

As for the wheel locks, don't kid yourself. they might stop the random kid next door, but someone that is doing this for a living will have a socket to happen on the lug and take it off, or they have thing that looks like a socket but with a wedge piece inside. They hammer that on and it splits the lug right in half.

As for the insurance, it depends on your insurance I guess, but when mine were stolen Progressive cut me a check the next day. It was then up to me to actually buy the wheels, tires, lugs, TPS, have them mounted and get them back on the truck. Depending on what you can get the new wheels/tires and such for you could come out ahead of the game but probably not by much.

Did the insurance company send someone out to look a the car? I just went out to check this morning and the side-molding on the car is damaged by where they positioned the bricks. They weren't placed under the support areas. I'm looking to have this fixed too since I'm already going to pay a 1k deductible

rha600 07-03-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by yzhang12 (Post 604821)
Police came, said it was a professional job, left no prints and was probably in and out of there in less than 10 minutes.

The sad thing is, this area has had no crime in the last 30 years the neighborhood was built. Police said the only things he ever came to this area for in the past 3 years with the county was for parties. There's recently been a construction crew working on the parking lot and all fingers really point to them. Even worse... it only perpetuates the stereotype of the poorer class workers (african american/hispanic) who resort to this type of activity because it's a predominately caucasian/asian community.

I'm looking for suggestions for a new set of wheels though: http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...els-tires.html I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Same thing with me. Thing is, if you were a thief, would you scope out the poor dirty neighborhoods or would you go to the nice wealthy areas where you can find goodies like nice wheels.

The good part about the garage is not the security of it, but the fact that when the criminals are casually driving around looking for a target, your car is out of sight so it's never an issue unless they followed you home.

rha600 07-03-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by yzhang12 (Post 604830)
Did the insurance company send someone out to look a the car? I just went out to check this morning and the side-molding on the car is damaged by where they positioned the bricks. They weren't placed under the support areas. I'm looking to have this fixed too since I'm already going to pay a 1k deductible

Yes, they had someone out the very next day. Luckily (if you can call it that) I had ZERO damage done anywhere on the truck. And like you, there wasn't a finger print anywhere.

Jeffblue 07-03-2010 11:09 AM

the garage is the best. the area's criminals like the most are the upper middle class areas. Where people can afford the nice cars, more than one usually, but don't have enough garage space to keep any/all of them. so they keep them in the driveway and rely on the fact that their neighborhood is safe to protect their cars. But the truth is, their neighborhoods are safe. These kinds of criminals aren't the ones who would mug you if you were outside your house. They are sneaky spineless losers who have no balls. Having a safe neighborhood can't protect you from having this happen because these people come from far and wide to where you live, raid the neighborhood, and then leave. And no one else cares unless they have a nice car, because all most people care about is personal safety, and no one is going to start a neighborhood watch to protect cars from vandalism.

yzhang12 07-03-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 604232)
it aggrivates me so much to see our cars like that. Every night that i go out to my driveway to put the garbage out or something, i walk past where i used to park my Z (before i garaged it for the 3 days it was outside of my house) and just wonder what kind of spineless piece of **** does this, and how they rationalize it. For future, get a viper alarm with a tilt sensor, how much range you want is your call. i got smart start just for the added range. Make sure your tilt sensor is set pretty sensitive though, they don't need much clearance to get your wheels off. Its not the same kind of thing as when you change your wheels. They need a tiny bit of room and sometimes they can just slide bricks under and deflate your tires.

These people have almost ruined my enjoyment of this car. I am constantly paranoid about it if its not in my garage. I dont want to go to the mall or movies or beach or any place where its not in eyesight.

now i'm worried that when i get aftermarket wheels, i'll be screwed b/c if i want them replaced i will have to wait so long. It makes me just want to put hub caps on my car because these people will steal anything else.

has anyone here ever had aftermarket rims stolen? were they covered by ins?

Good luck with your situation, and i'd take the money if i was you. If you think this will happen again just get the OEM wheels again. If you aren't worried, get some thing real nice. Just keep in mind, the scariest part is these people know where you live, and once you get the wheels put on they can come back and do it again. dont have your wheels replaced until you have an alarm lined up and ready to install that day.... sorry for rambling.

I'm not too concerned with people stealing the car itself (correct me if i'm wrong, the keyless ignition means that without the key fob you cannot jump start the car at because it uses a form of encryption). I'm probably not going to opt for the viper alarm for its extra features. I just want the tilt sensor Viper - Digital Tilt Motion Sensor or Crime Guard AU-46TD Tilt Sensor Dual-stage digital tilt-motion sensor for Crime Guard alarm systems at Crutchfield.com

Can these be wired into the car's alarm system (i.e. armed/disarmed by nissan's OEM key fob) without having to purchase another receiver/trasmitter?

rha600 07-03-2010 11:18 AM

agreed.

Down here we also have a lot of gated communities and we've been looking for homes in those. We were looking for a new place anyway...

question to those with the Viper. Do you basically carry two key fobs? The one from Nissan and the one for the Viper? not a big deal, I'm just trying to understand how it ties in together. Like do you lock your doors with one and then arm the alarm with the other or do you lock and arm together with the Viper and then just keep the nissan fob in your pocket to start the car?

edit: oh, I like yz's idea better if that works.

Jeffblue 07-03-2010 11:25 AM

^ that wont work. you need the actual viper alarm in order to have the tilt/glass break/shock sensor. Yes i carry 2 fobs. I essentially never use the nissan fob anymore. I use the viper fob. it disarms the alarm/unlocks the door when i press unlock, and locks/arms when i lock. i also requested the add a trunk release feature on teh remote so i now have that. At first you want to use the buttons on teh door but that will set off the alarm because you unlock the door but don't disarm the alarm. Ask your shop about just getting the viper 3303 (2000 foot range) and then the two sensors (they total 170 dollars). Its the most basic set up but i really think you should do it.

so in short, i carry 2 fobs. i never use the nissan one, i just keep it on me so i can start the car. and you need a viper system to use their other add ons, which can't be wired into the nissan alarm.

rha600 07-03-2010 11:32 AM

cool, thanks Jeff.

Yeah, I would like the 3002 (I didnt' see the 3303 on their web site) and then add the tilt sensor and the backup siren.

yzhang12 07-03-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 604851)
^ that wont work. you need the actual viper alarm in order to have the tilt/glass break/shock sensor. Yes i carry 2 fobs. I essentially never use the nissan fob anymore. I use the viper fob. it disarms the alarm/unlocks the door when i press unlock, and locks/arms when i lock. i also requested the add a trunk release feature on teh remote so i now have that. At first you want to use the buttons on teh door but that will set off the alarm because you unlock the door but don't disarm the alarm. Ask your shop about just getting the viper 3303 (2000 foot range) and then the two sensors (they total 170 dollars). Its the most basic set up but i really think you should do it.

so in short, i carry 2 fobs. i never use the nissan one, i just keep it on me so i can start the car. and you need a viper system to use their other add ons, which can't be wired into the nissan alarm.

I know one of the sensors would be the tilt sensor, what's the other sensor for? I can't find the 3303 on the viper website, so I'm guessing it's discontinued and has been replaced by these: Viper - Security.

Is the system transferable from one car to the next? And do you know if there are any tilt sensors that can be wired to the cars oem alarm system? (e.g., nissan tilt sensors - I tried searching but nissan doesn't manufacture them).

Jeffblue 07-03-2010 11:50 AM

nah you're not gonna have any luck wiring something into the nissan alarm. The nissan alarm is really useless and wont interface to anything. I got the glass break sensor and tilt sensor. If someone starts banging ont he glass with something metal, the alarm will go off. If the glass in fact breaks, the alarm will obviously also go off. I'd suggest you take the insurance money, but tjlazers wheels, cover your deductible with the extra cash and put whatever is leftover towards the alarm system. If you can't garage your car, you probably don't want to attract any more attention by buying volks or something. If you don't get an alarm, and put that money towards nicer wheels, you are basically saying 'hey guys! come back i've got some more wheels for you!'

rha600 07-03-2010 12:10 PM

Also, just an FYI, but ask your insurance company about lowing the deductable. I have a $250 deductable that I lowered from $500 and it cost me $50 per year.

Jeffblue 07-03-2010 12:33 PM

yea. lower deductibe higher premium/ vice versa.

dad 07-03-2010 01:20 PM

The front wheels are turned in the photo! I thought you couldn't remove the wheels, if the wheels were turned?

yzhang12 07-03-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rha600 (Post 604887)
Also, just an FYI, but ask your insurance company about lowing the deductable. I have a $250 deductable that I lowered from $500 and it cost me $50 per year.

Wouldn't this be considered fraud? Changing your insurance after an incident occurs to pay less deductible?

yzhang12 07-03-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 604940)
The front wheels are turned in the photo! I thought you couldn't remove the wheels, if the wheels were turned?

I've never heard of this before, if the wheels can turn in the well, I think they should be able to come off at any angle. Apparently, it can be done.

sonic370 07-03-2010 07:43 PM

Man sorry to hear about that. Most people now a days don't give a damn.
The worst thing is it makes a guy worry about enjoying his car.
You worry about going anywhere in your car for fear of some a hole
jacking with it. That's the thing about our cars they just don't blend in
they stick out like a sore thumb.

dad 07-03-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by yzhang12 (Post 605324)
I've never heard of this before, if the wheels can turn in the well, I think they should be able to come off at any angle. Apparently, it can be done.

I read it some where, but that is now proved incorrect!

TreeSemdyZee 07-03-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by yzhang12 (Post 605323)
Wouldn't this be considered fraud? Changing your insurance after an incident occurs to pay less deductible?

The deductible wouldn't change for the active incident. Only for future incidents.

Jordo! 07-03-2010 08:49 PM

Wow -- I can't believe how many folks have had their wheels stollen :icon14:

Jeez... I think I need to invest in some wheel locks.

Lemers 07-03-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 605443)
Wow -- I can't believe how many folks have had their wheels stollen :icon14:

Jeez... I think I need to invest in some wheel locks.

Or a garage

kenchan 07-03-2010 09:36 PM

and keep the door closed.

i have this frikken indian neighbor down the street who occasionally walks into my garage with no 'hello or excuse me, or may i come in' or anything despite the numerous times i told him not to walk in without saying something. :mad: was working on my car today with the garage door open (needed the sunlight to see my work) and i noticed my ADT triggered that something entered the garage so i got out of my car and looked around, sure enough the obnoxious chicken tikka masala was in my garage looking around again. wtf.

AMCPacer 07-03-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 605556)
and keep the door closed.

i have this frikken indian neighbor down the street who occasionally walks into my garage with no 'hello or excuse me, or may i come in' or anything despite the numerous times i told him not to walk in without saying something. :mad: was working on my car today with the garage door open (needed the sunlight to see my work) and i noticed my ADT triggered that something entered the garage so i got out of my car and looked around, sure enough the obnoxious chicken tikka masala was in my garage looking around again. wtf.

Is this Indian an east Indian or Native American?

kenchan 07-03-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AMCPacer (Post 605602)
Is this Indian an east Indian or Native American?

he's from asia like me. i dont care who you are or wat cultural differences there are. you dont just invite yourself and walk into someone's garage! especially not a car guy's garage. :mad:

Lemers 07-03-2010 11:19 PM

Count your screwdrivers

Jeffblue 07-04-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 605556)
and keep the door closed.

i have this frikken indian neighbor down the street who occasionally walks into my garage with no 'hello or excuse me, or may i come in' or anything despite the numerous times i told him not to walk in without saying something. :mad: was working on my car today with the garage door open (needed the sunlight to see my work) and i noticed my ADT triggered that something entered the garage so i got out of my car and looked around, sure enough the obnoxious chicken tikka masala was in my garage looking around again. wtf.

chicken tikka masala is such a good dish btw.

KillerBee370 07-04-2010 12:36 AM

There's only one sure say to keep your wheels safe if you park on the street. Unfortunately it's very costly (for all 4 wheels) and labor intensive...

Car wheel immobilizer, auto theft protection car wheel clamps - Universal Boot Inc, high quality products for anti-theft, cargo security and parking enforcement since 1986 -

Trips 07-04-2010 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 605863)
There's only one sure say to keep your wheels safe if you park on the street. Unfortunately it's very costly (for all 4 wheels) and labor intensive...

Car wheel immobilizer, auto theft protection car wheel clamps - Universal Boot Inc, high quality products for anti-theft, cargo security and parking enforcement since 1986 -

Just dont pay your parking ticketts and you can get them protected for free!!
http://www.universalboot.com/media/c...f-01_1_1_3.jpg

KillerBee370 07-04-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AMCPacer (Post 605602)
Is this Indian an east Indian or Native American?

Just say dot or feather. It's easier :tup:

KillerBee370 07-04-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 605868)
Just dont pay your parking ticketts and you can get them protected for free!!
http://www.universalboot.com/media/c...f-01_1_1_3.jpg

lol :p

kenchan 07-04-2010 12:39 PM

So I found a old wide angle mirror and nuvi mount and made a security mirror. :p

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...indochaser.jpg

AMCPacer 07-04-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 605873)
Just say dot or feather. It's easier :tup:

Yeah, thx. I heard that one before, but it may be taken as offensive.

rebe945 07-04-2010 02:31 PM

stolen wheels
 
so sorry to see that. plain scum .rich

3SeventyZ 07-04-2010 03:12 PM

sorry that happened

PapoZalsa 07-04-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 605695)
he's from asia like me. i dont care who you are or wat cultural differences there are. you dont just invite yourself and walk into someone's garage! especially not a car guy's garage. :mad:

:iagree:

yzhang12 07-06-2010 05:43 PM

Insurance came by today. I'm thinking about buying 5 sets of wheel locks instead of lug nuts.. but if any one had the the Nissan key they would be able to take the lugs off right? It doesn't seem like Nissan manufactures unique designs on their wheel locks.

kenchan 07-06-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by yzhang12 (Post 609203)
Insurance came by today. I'm thinking about buying 5 sets of wheel locks instead of lug nuts.. but if any one had the the Nissan key they would be able to take the lugs off right? It doesn't seem like Nissan manufactures unique designs on their wheel locks.

Damn, how long did your insurance take to officially file the claim?! I wouldve been on new wheelset by now.

The nissan locks are oem by McGuard(?). I'm sure there are few different keys for them but at the end a thief can still take those locks off without the keys...

yzhang12 07-06-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 609389)
Damn, how long did your insurance take to officially file the claim?! I wouldve been on new wheelset by now.

The nissan locks are oem by McGuard(?). I'm sure there are few different keys for them but at the end a thief can still take those locks off without the keys...

Yea, but I'm looking to put 5 locking nuts on each wheel, so they better come with 20 sockets because they can't just hammer one on, and pop it out without significant effort for each one. -_- and I'm sure that will slow them down a lot.

The insurance was fast, this happened Friday morning, but I didn't notice until the evening so the earliest they could send someone out was Tuesday (Monday was a holiday). Check should be coming tomorrow

Jeffblue 07-06-2010 07:52 PM

how much are they giving you. Don't put too much faith in wheel locks. They make bolt removers that can take them off like they weren't even locks.

Lemers 07-06-2010 08:36 PM

Are you going to replace with OEMs or get something else?


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