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Cmike2780 06-23-2010 11:24 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Genesis Coupe riding on the same platform as the sedan? It would be like Lexus/Toyota designing a sports car version of the LS460. The result would be a half-@$$ "sporty" car and not a sports car. In my opinion, thats no way to design a coupe, let alone a sports car.

Maybe the Genesis Coupe does have a soul, it just happens to be the soul of a fat lumbering sedan. The Genesis Coupe isn't a bad car, it's just not in the same league as the 370Z, V8 or otherwise. More power doesn't make for a better sports car. Look at the Challenger or Camaro. Loads of power, but take it to the track and Mini Coopers will run laps around it with the right driver. I'm sure Hyudai will eventually build a proper sports car, this isn't it and won't be for at least 10 years. I would drive a Hyudai, but I wouldn't consider buying one just yet.

KillerBee370 06-24-2010 12:08 AM

You can stick a rocket up a donkey's azz too but in the end, it's still no thoroughbred.

Trips 06-24-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 590954)
You can stick a rocket up a donkey's azz too but in the end, it's still no thoroughbred.

:roflpuke2::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

the_student 06-24-2010 01:03 AM

This is starting to feel like deja vu. Forum threads ending up bashing other cars and brands. It's making Z guys look like douchebags. Just respect what others make. Have your opinion, just don't be an @$$ about it.

WarmAndSCSI 06-24-2010 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Emotiongear (Post 590882)
Have you driven a Genesis?
I own a 2010 Z but the Genesis Coupe has been making more headlines that the Z lately. Something has to be done about this....

I looked at a couple when I was purchasing my Evo X, but never test drove one. I was too turned off by the look and feel of the car, and the poorly-oriented interior to even bother. I've never once said it was a turd of a car, just that it's clearly nothing compared to a Z.

Hyundai has been dumping a boatload of cash into marketing. They've done a phenomenal job turning their brand image around; but only time will tell if their cars are actually better now. It's been well known for decades that almost all review magazines are sleeping with the manufacturers. And the initial quality ratings have been bogus for a long time. Not once have they ever taken into account that buyers of higher-end cars are generally more picky than those of lower-end cars. :shakes head:

WarmAndSCSI 06-24-2010 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by the_student (Post 590991)
This is starting to feel like deja vu. Forum threads ending up bashing other cars and brands. It's making Z guys look like douchebags. Just respect what others make. Have your opinion, just don't be an @$$ about it.

Nobody is really bashing the Genesis Coupe here. I'm not afraid to bash Hyundai as a brand, though - I'm fairly confident no real car enthusiasts will be backing them at the end of the day. They're still peddlers of cheap Korean junk. Have you personally known anybody to buy a Genesis Coupe or Genesis Sedan? I haven't... shows how little these cars appeal to real enthusiasts.

zippin 06-24-2010 06:40 AM

Rather drive a huffy than a hyundai...

zZSportZz 06-24-2010 08:32 AM

I'd drive a 429hp version of that car in a heart beat.....then again, I'm not a car snob.

Cmike2780 06-24-2010 08:45 AM

A 429hp huffy?

Tronchaser 06-24-2010 08:45 AM

My dad has a Genesis... when you put'em both together, people don't Ooooo and Ahhhh over the Genesis. It's the Z they're lookin' at.

daisuke149 06-24-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 591014)
Nobody is really bashing the Genesis Coupe here. I'm not afraid to bash Hyundai as a brand, though - I'm fairly confident no real car enthusiasts will be backing them at the end of the day. They're still peddlers of cheap Korean junk. Have you personally known anybody to buy a Genesis Coupe or Genesis Sedan? I haven't... shows how little these cars appeal to real enthusiasts.

actually being a car enthusiast is about being respectful of all cars and understanding that cars are built for purposes and reasons other than the ones that matter to you.

Aka Hyundai didnt set out to make a PURE sports car. They wanted to make a sportier car that most people could get. Thus the 20k price point vs 30k on the z. The 4 seats vs 2.. etc. Obviously, we here on this forum are the exception to the people who need 4 seats. Its also why you see the biased opinions.

If you were truly an enthusiast then you would appreciate what Hyundai is trying to do and where they are headed, not bash them based on their reputation from 15 years ago.

The Hyundai Sonata's have been great everyday sedans. Comfortable, quiet, better equiped and priced than the competition by car. How is that a bad thing? As an enthusiast you would also want competition in each market to help better every brand.

So yes, I know many enthusiats who drive Hyundai's. I know people who traded in corvettes for a Sonata. Their priorities in what they need and want change, doesnt mean their idiots. I also know people who traded in Hyundai's for 370'z.

Personally i'd say the 370 could do with some good proper competition (non-muscle cars) and then we can see where that leads to in 5-6 years.

P.S in terms of "cheap" korean junk, i hope you don't personally own any samsung, LG, etc products. Heck actually or anything manufactured in China, so then need to give up that Iphone stuff too. (Korean manufacturing > Chinese in terms of quality)

RCZ 06-24-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 590697)
Show me why the Genesis is not in the same league as the 370.

They are a lot slower, engines pop at 350whp under FI, 3600lbs heavy , low qual interior, bad gearbox... I don't tend to be biased in car brands as long as the car itself is good, but the Genesis is just not a good sports car yet. Like someone said, give hyundai another 5-10 years and then maybe.

UNKNOWN_370 06-24-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 590299)
I thought they said the Tau V8 had issues even fitting in the gen coupe already?

They turned the gencoupe into a rear mounted mid engine 4.6L v8. Its one sick ride.
Love the genesis coupe. The engine and tranny tech need to come slightly up a bit and gear ratios need to be improved but for the price its one sick azz whip.

I see a 2nd gen GC in my future... :)

Supergoji 06-24-2010 09:28 AM

nissan needs to go FI again with the Z. some nice gt28RS turbos oughta do it.

theDreamer 06-24-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 591161)
They turned the gencoupe into a rear mounted mid engine 4.6L v8. Its one sick ride.
Love the genesis coupe. The engine and tranny tech need to come slightly up a bit and gear ratios need to be improved but for the price its one sick azz whip.

I see a 2nd gen GC in my future... :)

I remember that one, it took a bit of work to stick that V8 in there.
Now with how long it will take to put the V8 in a gen coupe by that time I am sure Hyundai will have a redesign for the gen coupe and will fit a bigger engine easier.


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