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bossman 02-16-2009 11:05 PM

370Z fuel economy
 
so the z gets 18/26.. anyone other than me feel this is a bit low? i mean that's approaching van/suv territory.. the new bmw x5 gets 17/23 and most of the imports do even better

par4bmw 02-16-2009 11:14 PM

The BMW X5 3.0 gets only 15/21 w/260hp. I am real happy that the Z did not go this route. It gets to 60 in just under 8 secs, I think our Z's will only see an X5 in our mirrors. Yes it is heavy but still no great mileage for the performance.

I was looking for performance out of the Z and thought the mileage was ok for the performance it has.

bossman 02-17-2009 01:29 AM

this has nothing to do with comparing the z to the x5 , that was just an example used to illustrate how low the mileage for the z is.. and if you checked your stats you'd know that the 3.0si gets 17/23 and the 4.8i gets 15/19.. bmwusa.com

AK370Z 02-17-2009 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bossman (Post 31670)
so the z gets 18/26.. anyone other than me feel this is a bit low?

370Z gets BETTER gas mileage than 350Z. Anyone cries about gas mileage should buy a corolla or the new Honda fit. IMO, those who buys sport cars (coupes), gas mileage is the least of their worries.

Here's another thread that has more discussions and responses

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-tank-gas.html

Asheth 02-17-2009 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 31699)
370Z gets BETTER gas mileage than 350Z. Anyone cries about gas mileage should buy a corolla or the new Honda fit. IMO, those who buys sport cars (coupes), gas mileage is the least of their worries.

Here's another thread that has more discussions and responses

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-tank-gas.html

:werd:

If you look in Porsche advertisements now hell even all car ads they talk about gas mileage but imo its only because that is the hot topic now. No one really cares I think it is more of an afterthought

BanningZ 02-17-2009 04:27 AM

I'm not too worried about mpg with the Z, I've got an xB for that.
18/26 is not bad IMHO could be worse, we could be in the days of -200hp V8 domestics with worse mpg.

I'm quite happy that companies like Nissan have striven to provide performance, with weight reduction and an mpg that doesn't have me filling up every 100 miles.

Crash 02-17-2009 07:42 AM

28 is the middle of what they got for testing. You can do better than that. Just depends on your driving habits.

C5 Corvettes say they're supposed to get 18/25, but my friends are getting 32-36 on the freeway average. And they're not exactly driving like grandpa.

But to get the best mileage, keep the RPMs below 3500 and you'll get excellent economy.

I follow the same rules with my cars. The 300zx averages 20MPG and I almost NEVER drive on the freeway with it. My Solstice does about 25/41. GM says that it's supposed to get 21/36.

Again, it's all about your driving habits.

m4a1mustang 02-17-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 31757)
28 is the middle of what they got for testing. You can do better than that. Just depends on your driving habits.

C5 Corvettes say they're supposed to get 18/25, but my friends are getting 32-36 on the freeway average. And they're not exactly driving like grandpa.

But to get the best mileage, keep the RPMs below 3500 and you'll get excellent economy.

I follow the same rules with my cars. The 300zx averages 20MPG and I almost NEVER drive on the freeway with it. My Solstice does about 25/41. GM says that it's supposed to get 21/36.

Again, it's all about your driving habits.

+1. My '03 Mustang GT rated at something 26mpg highway would easily get 30mpg on the highway. I'd imagine the Z could do the same if you were taking it easy.

par4bmw 02-17-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bossman (Post 31697)
this has nothing to do with comparing the z to the x5 , that was just an example used to illustrate how low the mileage for the z is.. and if you checked your stats you'd know that the 3.0si gets 17/23 and the 4.8i gets 15/19.. bmwusa.com

It is about hp from an engine for the fuel economy delivered. And I think the Z does a good job compared to the BMW 3.0 that you used in your example. Most here are buying their Z for maximizing performance versus value (economy being one factor of value) and like its predecessors, the 370 strikes the balance up towards the top of the list.

You need to recheck bmwusa, the X5 3.0 is:

Fuel consumption City/Highway 15/21 mpg BMW North America . Just trying to make facts, facts. ;)

Greg 02-17-2009 09:43 AM

LOL If any car gets over 10mpg i'm content ;)

dlmartin81 02-17-2009 10:13 AM

:werd:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 31699)
Anyone cries about gas mileage should buy a corolla or the new Honda fit. IMO, those who buys sport cars (coupes), gas mileage is the least of their worries.


FERRARI 02-17-2009 03:13 PM

Mpg
 
Hey....who cares about MPG ........If you do.....get an economy car.......
My Enzo gets 12 MPG when I run it hard.......

But if you do WANT TO KNOW "EXACTLY' what kind of MPG you get....then......

Sorry if this sounds like a know-it-all....but The way that I have always measured MPG is easy......I fill up and force-fill.......the tank.....dont worry about doing this, I have been doing it for decades and never had a problem with any car. By force-filling I mean: After you think your tank is full, I shake the car and let the gas level go down. Any car will hold and extra 2 to 3 gallons..........it may take about 5 minutes to get all the air out of the tank. By doing this, you get an accurate level to refill the tank on the next fill.
Record the miles till the next fill.........and then you have an accurate level to measure from...........the next time you force-fill your are going to know that the level is the same as before.....as in FULL

Say you go 350 miles and then force-fill again.....it takes 13 gallons.....since you know the tank has been FULL to the same point...you know that you have used 13 gallons....and your MPG was 26.92 MPG

To me this is the most accurate way to get an MPG for a car........I guess I am Squirrly but I do this almost every tank....

bossman 02-17-2009 11:47 PM

yea like you have an enzo.. why would you ever want a z if you did?

Crash 02-17-2009 11:48 PM

I'd never force-fill the tank, but aside from that, that's the same way I get my mpg. Some tanks don't need to force-fill. The pressure builds up the same in the tank assuming A) You're on a level ground and B) It's the same temperature outside. But the changes aren't enough to throw the mileage off enough to be seriously noticeable.

The pumps stop when a certain pressure has been reached in the tank. If it's off from pump to pump, it won't be more than 1/10th of a gallon which isn't enough to throw off the calculations that much. It's reasonable to say that your MPG is +/- 0.2 MPG.

Also, you should never top off your tank:
Topping Off

RwIron 02-18-2009 01:35 AM

its not really low for a 3.7 litter v6 engine... I mean, yeah it matters on your driving habbits, but its still better than the 350z.
My friend owns a g35x sedan and his getting 16mpg off that. >.< "look on the bright side"

Greg 02-18-2009 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 31863)

My Enzo gets 12 MPG when I run it hard.......

If your going to BS everyone, you really should look things up more intelligently. 12 mpg is just about what the advertised/stated mpg by Ferrari .. Most reviews (including an owner Ive talked to) have pegged the car at a mere 7 mpg and much worse if one were "really" running it hard.

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Originally Posted by bossman (Post 32084)
yea like you have an enzo.. why would you ever want a z if you did?

Why would you even want an enzo, if you own an SR71?

From his album of (stock pictures) Toys:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1...3284028zo9.jpg

LOL Talk about a gas guzzler..That thing leaks fuel just sitting on the ramp. :icon17:

Crash 02-18-2009 03:48 AM

LOL, My corvette had one of those "instant economy" digital gauges and when I put the peddle to the floor it went down to 3MPG! It had a 20Gal tank... So I'd get 60 Miles on a full tank! :D Probably less... By the time I'd get to the top speed (MAYBE 150) that number would go down to 1MPG if that.

I got the car up to 145 once... But the suspension just wasn't good enough back then for me to keep it there.

BanningZ 02-18-2009 05:12 AM

Maybe buy an RSX 6spd? They are light weight get great mpg and are pretty zippy.
You lose the rwd but its still a quick little car with good economy. Or a Miata, Celica, or Civic si.

FERRARI 02-18-2009 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 32085)
I'd never force-fill the tank, but aside from that, that's the same way I get my mpg. Some tanks don't need to force-fill. The pressure builds up the same in the tank assuming A) You're on a level ground and B) It's the same temperature outside. But the changes aren't enough to throw the mileage off enough to be seriously noticeable.

The pumps stop when a certain pressure has been reached in the tank. If it's off from pump to pump, it won't be more than 1/10th of a gallon which isn't enough to throw off the calculations that much. It's reasonable to say that your MPG is +/- 0.2 MPG.

Also, you should never top off your tank:
Topping Off

Like I said......I have been doing this for years.........with no problems...........And a gas pump cuts off when the gas backs up and cuts the nozzle and if you would try what I posted, you would see that you can get AT LEAST 2 more gallons in your tank.

The Enzo is driven very rarely, it is an investment that I got for a steal........and plan on making enough on it to buy several Zs, although I will get only one of course...the less miles on it , the more it will be worth...I had a 240Z before most of you were born, and I havent had one since that, but I love them because of the way they HANDLE ........I am not interested in a GT-R because I dont want a car that is not a RWD

The SR-71 picture is because My son went to the United States Air Force Academy and had the privilege of flying them after he became a pilot.

BanningZ 02-18-2009 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 32197)

The Enzo is driven very rarely, it is an investment that I got for a steal........

You have one of the less than 400 Enzos in the world? It trades for over a million dollars on average.

Pics or :ban:

:D j/k


Edit: Thats how you bought one. Wow! http://usedcars.cardomain.com/cars/u...66704351297502

Depreciation is amazing in this economy! Crazy!

Hows the depreciation on the Z24 Cavalier?

sbkim 02-18-2009 08:26 AM

Wow - we got an interesting group here - wasn't there another member who claims to have a Veyron.

semtex 02-18-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sbkim (Post 32202)
Wow - we got an interesting group here - wasn't there another member who claims to have a Veyron.

Yep -- alefcole. And the funny part is that in the Genesis v 370Z thread, he says "Driving a hyndai is not much different than driving a Nissan. Both cheap sports car, dammm it, I wish I had money to buy myself a GTR."

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...s-370z-19.html

So, we are to believe that he owns a Bugatti Veyron but can't afford a GT-R.

:gtfo2:

Crash 02-18-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 32198)
You have one of the less than 400 Enzos in the world? It trades for over a million dollars on average.

Pics or :ban:

:D j/k


Edit: Thats how you bought one. Wow! http://usedcars.cardomain.com/cars/u...66704351297502

Depreciation is amazing in this economy! Crazy!

Hows the depreciation on the Z24 Cavalier?

^^^ LOL! Seriously. My old client bought his Enzo for $900K and sold it for $1.9Mil. He only bought it for SEMA to show off some of his wheels, then sold it about 6 months later. With low miles on it, it'd probably be worth about $1.5Mil even in this economy. I'd say that's worth enough to buy ALMOST 47 370zs at $32K/each. :D

I love those kit cars... LOL The only Enzo my 300zx can beat! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 32197)
Like I said......I have been doing this for years.........with no problems...........And a gas pump cuts off when the gas backs up and cuts the nozzle and if you would try what I posted, you would see that you can get AT LEAST 2 more gallons in your tank.

The Enzo is driven very rarely, it is an investment that I got for a steal........and plan on making enough on it to buy several Zs, although I will get only one of course...the less miles on it , the more it will be worth...I had a 240Z before most of you were born, and I havent had one since that, but I love them because of the way they HANDLE ........I am not interested in a GT-R because I dont want a car that is not a RWD

The SR-71 picture is because My son went to the United States Air Force Academy and had the privilege of flying them after he became a pilot.

No, it doesn't cut off when the GAS backs up to the nozzle. It cuts off when too much pressure backs up to the nozzle. If it waited for the gas to back up, it'd spill over and cause a LOT of pressure to build up in the tank when you start the car. I'm not trying to tell you to stop, I'm just trying to tell you that I'm not going to waste my time "shaking" my car to see if my car's tank will fit 2 more gallons. That extra 2 gallons aren't worth chancing damage or spill-over to my car, and this isn't Road Warrior or Mad Max. There's a gas station a stones throw away from anywhere you are.

And I'd sure HOPE that they let your son fly the blackbird AFTER he became a pilot. That'd be pretty bad if they let him before hand. My uncle was obsessed with that jet. He was an engine mechanic in the USAF.

FERRARI 02-18-2009 07:22 PM

Is everyone on this forum an ******* ?

BanningZ 02-18-2009 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 32496)
Is everyone on this forum an ******* ?

No but Saying that you are selling an Enzo to buy a 370Z is a little far fetched don't you think?

Btw don't generalize people. This is a forum made up of Z enthusiasts that are very friendly and helpful when it comes to useful information. Most people here have a great sense of humor. It is difficult to hear innotaion in pitch when someone replies to a post.

Do not get all bent out of shape from a few jabs. People wouldn't respond at all if they really were jerks, they would just ignore you. Remember, this is the intertubes.

Now from personal experience, I have made stupid posts and people have called me out but its all in good fun. Learn from information that others provide. One upmanship is not needed on the internet because there is always someone with a better car and more knowledge than you or me.

Take it all with a grain of salt.

In actuality if you do have an Enzo, then good for you, you are one of 400 of the luckiest people on the planet to own one.

Cheers!

frost 02-18-2009 07:42 PM

<shrug> I've actually had a good experience with most of the people here.

FERRARI 02-18-2009 07:53 PM

No but Saying that you are selling an Enzo to buy a 370Z is a little far fetched don't you think?

I did say that......maybe you took it that way...but I did not mean that I was selling anything to buy a Z...............I was just saying that I COULD !!!!!!!

ssqpolo 02-18-2009 08:29 PM

man. I want to keep this a chill forum...cuz if it ends up like my350z, then nobody will want to even post.
Ferrari, I hope I'm wrong in calling a bluff, but by your posts...it just seems likea bunch of BS. My brother has an exotic car dealer friend in Florida, and we know first hand that Enzos are never at a steal. Not only do u have to own two ferraris prior to owning an enzo...the community is very elite group of ferrari enthusiasts...not saying that u cant be that person...but I know i wouldnt be on a Z forum with your 27 posts if I had an Enzo...or any ferrari at that matter. I mean I would be waxing that a** all night...**** i do that now with my Z.

In regards to your topping off method...you are absolutely wrong. First of all, there's no way that you can get 2 gallons more after it clicks. Also, topping off in general is just a bad idea as shown by a previous link. Moreover, If u try to top off, you will very soon notice the gas dripping on your paint...now as a Ferrari owner...or any nice car owner, you know that gas and paint is not a nice combo.

Also...your gas mileage is wayyyyyyy off. The same exotic car friend takes his personal collection to the track on occasion, and driven hard, those cars gulp gas. as a matter of fact, Top Gear did a Supercar challenge to see which one has the best gas mileage: a lambo lp560, audi r8, ferrari 599 gtb, and some others...racing around the track, the ferrari got like 3MPG...the enzo is either worse or not far off that

So...If you really do have an enzo, and your "son" flew the blackbird...or kite ...what ever...congrats. you're a lucky man.
If not, take this as a opportunity to stop your BSing...cuz it honestly doesn't amuse us or make us envy you.

to AK, sorry for getting upset. I will make all my further posts more friendly

frost 02-18-2009 08:41 PM

Didn't seem too upset. Pretty calm actually.

trema 02-18-2009 08:45 PM

Just to point out, because I'm a big fan of poetic justice, that you, Ferrari, mouthed off to ssqpolo first in that '300 miles per tank' thread... and you were mistaken.

FERRARI 02-18-2009 08:52 PM

In regards to your topping off method...you are absolutely wrong. First of all, there's no way that you can get 2 gallons more after it clicks. Also, topping off in general is just a bad idea as shown by a previous link. Moreover, If u try to top off, you will very soon notice the gas dripping on your paint...now as a Ferrari owner...or any nice car owner, you know that gas and paint is not a nice combo.

Hey man.........you say I am wrong.......I have been doing this for at least 30 years..!!!! Have you even EVER tried it? I think not..........yet you have the audacity to say that I am wrong......lol

After the nozzle clicks off.......your gas will settle as the air works its way out of the tank.......thu the fill spout......why dont you try it.......and see?

And I have never had any problems from doing this.......never..........in all types of cars......

BanningZ 02-18-2009 09:03 PM

Ferrari if you want to quote someone, just hit quote in the lower right hand corner of the post instead of copy and pasting, or just type in

[QUOTE] "Subject you are quoting" [ / QUOTE] at the beginning and end of the sentence you want to quote, just remove the spaces in that second set of brackets

ssqpolo 02-18-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 32577)
Hey man.........you say I am wrong.......I have been doing this for at least 30 years..!!!! Have you even EVER tried it? I think not..........yet you have the audacity to say that I am wrong......lol

After the nozzle clicks off.......your gas will settle as the air works its way out of the tank.......thu the fill spout......why dont you try it.......and see?

And I have never had any problems from doing this.......never..........in all types of cars......

fortunately, I have NOT tried this method. but my roomate in his 06 Civic has, and it did exactly what you would expect. After it clicked, a couple moments later gas spilled down his rear quarter panel. was his .1 gallon really worth it? I dont think so. But, im glad it works for u

Crash 02-19-2009 01:59 AM

^^^ Exactly my point. The tanks aren't made like they used to be. They're not diesel drums, they're specially molded tanks that are designed to flow gas in and out at an optimum rate. Most have double ballast areas in performance cars so that weight doesn't shift with fluids shifting during a turn. I'm going to leave it to the paid engineers to have done their job correctly and not try to mess with the chi of the gas tank. LOL

FricFrac 02-19-2009 10:28 AM

Ferrari - LOL. I know you've been around since the dinosaurs started building Fred Flinstone's car (you know when you had to shake the gravel tank to settle the gravel and make sure you had a full tank, etc) but I think you've missed a little point here about people in general. People who don't have what you have don't like you because you have more than they do. For example if I have a 370Z and my friend drives a Hyundia Pony he's not gonna like me, etc because I have a 370Z. He might want my car but it doesn't make him like me. People may want what you have but it typically does the opposite of making them like you.

I do strive to keep from thinking "pretentious rich prick" when I meet wealthy people as the odd one isn't...

So in short either you're full of crap trying to impress people so they admire you or you are loaded trying to impress people - either way wrong tactic....

LiftedCracker 02-19-2009 10:46 AM

this thread = fail


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