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billydsz 06-08-2010 11:49 AM

I've driven a stick since I was 18 (trust me a really long time ago lol) but I went with the 7AT because I love the option to drive with the paddles, (or stick) or just put it in D and cruise. Yes I admit I am a bit lazy. At times I would love to have the 6mt but other times I am really glad I got the Auto. Maybe I should just buy a second Z in 6MT LOL!! That would be sweet but a hard sell to the Mrs.

Hey maybe the next gen Z will have an auto with a clutch in manual mode. I think that's been done before hasn't it?

Jeffblue 06-08-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz (Post 567974)
Hey maybe the next gen Z will have an auto with a clutch in manual mode. I think that's been done before hasn't it?

Never heard of that.

I feel like the MT with Syncrho rev match is more advance technology that the Auto tranny in this car. This is car just uses a torque converter, its not really considered advanced tech anymore. a lot more economy class cars now have a automatic as standard or a very cheap option. Double clutch=advanced. Torque Converter = been around a while.

btw IS this the same 7AT as the G37?

shadoquad 06-08-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyberium (Post 567838)
Fact is this: People who have an auto ended up paying MORE for the car and it was a choice. It's advanced technology and it comes at a premium. Some people get the manual transmission because it's cheaper and it's all they can afford.

If you like having your hand on a stick while driving and it makes you feel more like a man, then more power to you. :superghey:

:stirthepot:

I <3 this poast.

It is a fun irony that there are folks acting high and mighty about the cheaper option. :icon17:

That said, I do enjoy having my hand on a stick, even when driving automatics. :eekdance:

The choice was easy for me with the Z, since I wanted 6mt AND it was cheaper. I can't imagine this car being boring to drive with 7AT, though. If nothing else, the crowd on this forum who say it isn't boring, and who actually own the 7AT, probably convinces me that it's fun.

toxik 06-08-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 568014)
Never heard of that.

I feel like the MT with Syncrho rev match is more advance technology that the Auto tranny in this car. This is car just uses a torque converter, its not really considered advanced tech anymore. a lot more economy class cars now have a automatic as standard or a very cheap option. Double clutch=advanced. Torque Converter = been around a while.

btw IS this the same 7AT as the G37?

yeah it's same transmission as the G, although I don't know anything about slow response time. I'm a 7AT owner, and I honestly don't care if I'm driving MT or AT... the amount of people that scream at me about that is ridiculous. People have to go on a personal mission to prove to me that MT is better. I have just as much fun driving with the paddle shifters as I would with a stick.... and maybe even more because the shifters are more convenient to change gears.

I love when people tell me that I simply do not know how to drive stick good, that's why I drive AT. Always want to reply with "ye a 7AT 370z, meanwhile you're driving an Accord." But I can't say that cause that would make me sound like a spoiled douche.

xfrgtr 06-08-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 568014)
Never heard of that.

I feel like the MT with Syncrho rev match is more advance technology that the Auto tranny in this car. This is car just uses a torque converter, its not really considered advanced tech anymore. a lot more economy class cars now have a automatic as standard or a very cheap option. Double clutch=advanced. Torque Converter = been around a while.

btw IS this the same 7AT as the G37?

Exactly

billydsz 06-08-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 568014)
Never heard of that.

I feel like the MT with Syncrho rev match is more advance technology that the Auto tranny in this car. This is car just uses a torque converter, its not really considered advanced tech anymore. a lot more economy class cars now have a automatic as standard or a very cheap option. Double clutch=advanced. Torque Converter = been around a while.

btw IS this the same 7AT as the G37?

Hey you can feel any way you like. This auto is very fast, it's documented faster than the 6mt. Sorry if that pisses you off. Get over it.

In manual mode there is no significant delay in switching gears (in terms of human shifting, it is faster than that.)

Jeffblue 06-08-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz (Post 568045)
Hey you can feel any way you like. This auto is very fast, it's documented faster than the 6mt. Sorry if that pisses you off. Get over it.

In manual mode there is no significant delay in switching gears (in terms of human shifting, it is faster than that.)

Most technological advances are faster than man could do on his own. and it doesn't piss me off at all. I dont care if the auto is .06 seconds or whatever faster in the 1/4 mile, i don't do 1/4 miles on the way to work. they are equal in every other factor (handling,skid pad, braking distance). for the .00whatever faster it is in the 1/4, i'll take the fun factor of manual over it ANY day. the camaro 2ss beats our car in the quarter mile. I dont see anyone here with 7AT transmissions suddenly lining up to buy it because it has a half a second better stock 1/4 time than our car. WHY? because the Z is more fun to drive and better handling. 6spd, many would agree is more fun to drive and same handling as the 7AT. So since i got this car to be fun to drive, i had to intentions of compromising.


By delay, i dont mean in the actual gear shift itself, i mean in the time that you press the stick/paddle in sport mode to the point that the gear starts to change seems a little laggy. Like if you click the stick forward and then take your hand away from it immediatly, you sense it more. its like .click, hand off........................gear change.

Nick911sc 06-08-2010 02:52 PM

My gf has a G37 with 7AT and when I drove it in manual mode there was definitely lag from when I initiated the gear change with the shifter and when it actually started shifting.

toxik 06-08-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 568172)
My gf has a G37 with 7AT and when I drove it in manual mode there was definitely lag from when I initiated the gear change with the shifter and when it actually started shifting.

Must be the G then, because there's definitely no delay in gear switching.... I was just messing around last night with the paddle shifters.

Nick911sc 06-08-2010 03:25 PM

Is there any delay when using the shifter rather than paddles? Her car has no paddles.

Jeffblue 06-08-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik (Post 568217)
Must be the G then, because there's definitely no delay in gear switching.... I was just messing around last night with the paddle shifters.

thats good. b.c i heard a lot of people on here saying that the 370z 7at shifted fast in manual mode. then when i did it in the G i was like .... UH i hope the Z shifts faster.

toxik 06-08-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 568221)
Is there any delay when using the shifter rather than paddles? Her car has no paddles.

honestly i haven't used the shifter once... many people don't know but you don't need to put the car into manual mode when using the shifters. As soon as you flick one of the shifters the car goes into manual mode, and if you don't touch em for a 20-30 seconds, itll go back to Auto mode. Because of that handy feature, I never feel like reaching for the stick and putting it into Manual mode.

ayo.marv 06-08-2010 03:46 PM

I've seen a lot of AT guys always say 'Driving in traffic is the reason they went for Automatic' I've driven AT & MT in traffic. It doesn't matter which one you're driving.. Traffic sucks, period. I mean come on.. really.. is it that much difficult to clutch and shift during traffic?!

But! I'm not hating.. I don't care if you drive an AT or MT. Heck, if I could afford it I would drive a GTR or even a Ferrari I would probably go for a AT... F1 AT/Clutch=Amazing!

To each their own though. I just prefer my MT :)

toxik 06-08-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ayo.marv (Post 568246)
AT guys always say 'Driving in traffic is the reason they went for Automatic' I've driven AT & MT in traffic. It doesn't matter which one you're driving.. Traffic sucks, period. I mean come on.. really.. is it that much difficult to clutch and shift during traffic?!

To each their own though. I just prefer my MT :)

I missed this thread completely but I will say this, and most AT Z owners will agree; we are the ones that have to defend ourselves on why we chose 7AT over MT. Getting a sports car in MT is the common and accepted thing to do. Who the hell is going to argue with you on why you bought a sports car in MT... lol really? So what do you expect people to say when you ask them why they have an AT? They have to come up with some excuse, and some are embarrassed that they don't know how to drive manual, so thats how the traffic excuse came about heh. At the same time, we all bought the car because it's a 370... just like Jeffblue said above it still handles the same regardless of what tranny you have.

Zsteve 06-08-2010 04:18 PM

I personally got the AT cuz it shifts faster and I dont have to mess with a clutch.

Jeffblue 06-08-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik (Post 568266)
I missed this thread completely but I will say this, and most AT Z owners will agree; we are the ones that have to defend ourselves on why we chose 7AT over MT. Getting a sports car in MT is the common and accepted thing to do. Who the hell is going to argue with you on why you bought a sports car in MT... lol really? So what do you expect people to say when you ask them why they have an AT? They have to come up with some excuse, and some are embarrassed that they don't know how to drive manual, so thats how the traffic excuse came about heh. At the same time, we all bought the car because it's a 370... just like Jeffblue said above it still handles the same regardless of what tranny you have.

agreed, thats why everyone who drives manual is like '....Really?' when people pull out the traffic excuse. no one is going to insult someone for being lazy or not knowing how if thats the reason, just own up to it if it is.

Modshack 06-08-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 567287)
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Better than a vibrator any day!.....:wtf2:

Although Our engines may fit the bill for some..

Zsteve 06-08-2010 04:44 PM

7AT is better then the manual. :stirthepot:

Im really, why does a AT person care if someone else drives a MT, and why should a MT person care if someone drives an AT? I say get over it and live with it. If one of you want to buy me my next dream car you can pick which tranny I get, till then, its my choice.......and its a better choice too.

Jeffblue 06-08-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 568359)
7AT is better then the manual. :stirthepot:

Im really, why does a AT person care if someone else drives a MT, and why should a MT person care if someone drives an AT? I say get over it and live with it. If one of you want to buy me my next dream car you can pick which tranny I get, till then, its my choice.......and its a better choice too.

If you walk into a room full of gorgeous women, and leave with the one who has 2 different size bo0bs, a mustache, and one nostril, people are going to ask why.

GENERALLY people get sports cars with manual transmissions, so people wonder why you would want to go against the norm. so they ask.

shadoquad 06-08-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 568359)
If one of you want to buy me my next dream car you can pick which tranny I get...

http://lgbtu.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/rupaul.jpg

nicknick 06-08-2010 06:11 PM

We host international students and from what i have seen they are generally very babied, spoilt, rude and arrogant etc. Only one has been gone in about 50 that we have had. Their parents buy them the cars and houses, most of them come from very rich chinese families.

sonic370 06-08-2010 06:54 PM

Yeah this AT/MT thing has been wore out.
To each his own iv'e had both now driving the AT.
But i understand why the manual guys like the 6sp they won't
total control over the car.the 7sp doesn't offer
that. there are times to me that the auto can't make
up its mind which gear it want's.
but in manual mode with those paddles its another story.

damn 6sp or 7at the cars still hot!

Soygen 06-08-2010 07:43 PM

That was a terrible poem.

Nick911sc 06-08-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Soygen (Post 568635)
That was a terrible poem.

:icon18:

Zsteve 06-08-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 568384)
If you walk into a room full of gorgeous women, and leave with the one who has 2 different size bo0bs, a mustache, and one nostril, people are going to ask why.

GENERALLY people get sports cars with manual transmissions, so people wonder why you would want to go against the norm. so they ask.

different strokes for different folks.

Zsteve 06-08-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 568466)

different strokes for different folks.

So do you think RuPaul has a stick or an auto now?

Zsteve 06-08-2010 09:46 PM

couldnt resist.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:z...53213_5820.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-a...53213_5820.jpg

shadoquad 06-08-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 568807)
different strokes for different folks.

So do you think RuPaul has a stick or an auto now?

:icon18: sorry couldn't resist, buddy.

Zsteve 06-09-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 569064)
:icon18: sorry couldn't resist, buddy.

hey its all about having fun man

Jeffblue 06-09-2010 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 569220)
hey its all about having fun man

no its not. its about getting angry at eachother over small differences... jeeze!

fullmonty 06-09-2010 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 568807)
different strokes for different folks.

So do you think RuPaul has a stick or an auto now?

Its easier to dig a hole then build a pole

shadoquad 06-09-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 569258)
Its easier to dig a hole then build a pole

:icon18:

So, that's one vote for "inny".

Diocletian 06-09-2010 03:30 PM

Rather than start up another flamewar on this retarded debate I will write a haiku:

A tranny thread has started
Six speed or automatic
Profound sadness


I'm a poet and I didn't know it!

Zsteve 06-09-2010 05:38 PM

[QUOTE=Diocletian;569977]Rather than start up another flamewar on this retarded debate I will write a haiku:

A tranny thread has started
Six speed or automatic
Profound sadness


I'm a poet and I didn't know it![/QUOTE]

Neither do we. JK LOL.

SlowNCurious 12-10-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxik (Post 568031)
yeah it's same transmission as the G, although I don't know anything about slow response time. I'm a 7AT owner, and I honestly don't care if I'm driving MT or AT... the amount of people that scream at me about that is ridiculous. People have to go on a personal mission to prove to me that MT is better. I have just as much fun driving with the paddle shifters as I would with a stick.... and maybe even more because the shifters are more convenient to change gears.

I love when people tell me that I simply do not know how to drive stick good, that's why I drive AT. Always want to reply with "ye a 7AT 370z, meanwhile you're driving an Accord." But I can't say that cause that would make me sound like a spoiled douche.

:icon18: :rofl2:

mick 12-10-2010 10:20 PM

i prefer MT over AT and i envy people who enjoy driving AT cars because nowadays, it's easier to buy a nice car with AT than a nice car with MT (For instance you can't buy an AMG with a MT).

ImportConvert 12-11-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by billydsz (Post 566856)
Good point. Pressing a pedal and moving a stick is way better. And is there anything better than 20 miles of interstate bumper to bumper accident induced traffic and a manual tranny? I think not. :stirthepot:

Never understood this one. Drove stick through H-town back when they tore 59 up and sat in it for hours in a cammed up 5.0 with a clutch about 3x as beefy as the one that comes in these Z's. No big. You get used to it.

spearfish25 12-11-2010 08:52 AM

This MT vs AT argument is so stupid.

You just can't change peoples' minds, so stop trying. You won't 'win'. Just like you won't make a gay guy straight and they won't turn you gay. Save your energy.

ImportConvert 12-11-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 847079)
This MT vs AT argument is so stupid.

You just can't change peoples' minds, so stop trying. You won't 'win'. Just like you won't make a gay guy straight and they won't turn you gay. Save your energy.

That's like telling a drunk guy at a bar that that girl is a lesbian and nothing he says/does will change it.

Dammit! We gotta try! :tiphat:

Zsteve 12-11-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billydsz (Post 566856)
Good point. Pressing a pedal and moving a stick is way better. And is there anything better than 20 miles of interstate bumper to bumper accident induced traffic and a manual tranny? I think not. :stirthepot:

I say the OP should get a chuaffeur and a Benz and play Need For Speed in the back seat.


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