I put a call into my rep with your location.
When he gets back to me, I will give you the dealers.

Thanks Phil, you're awesome!

I asked the same question and my dealer told me they didn't know if it was synthetic or not. I didn't think it would be so at 2000 miles i changed it over.

Esters are an aromatic hydrocarbon group found in many fruits and vegetables. They are commonly used as flavoring agents in drinks, and for their smells in perfumes. Esters are defined by the presence of one carbon atom and two oxygen atoms attached to the end of a hydrocarbon molecule. Since we have already seen by now that not all hydrocarbons perform the same , it can be assumed that not all Esters function the same in terms of engine oil. There are some 600 known Esters, and manufacturers have found that some Esters can be synthesized from natural resources and be very stable in extreme heat and stress, such as in a racing engine. Most Esters help swell and condition seals, and may be used as an additive in other oils for this reason. Esters also have a polar affinity to most metals, and this allows film strength under zero pressure. Some esters, such as polyolesters, are not hydrolytically stable and are not compatible with elastomer type seals. Most Ester based oils will have NOACK scores around 6% for a 30wt oil.

I will use only Royal Purple!

My older brother turned me on to it years ago...

In the many years that ive owned and driven cars, i have used every major full syn brand out there, and of course all saying they are better than the others.

I took my brother up on his advise and switch from mobile 1 full syn to royal purple full syn and immidiatley noticed a increase in low end torque right off the bat...i thought it was crazy and it was just me, but the mach felt much stronger on the low end power than with mobile 1. It had a "throw you back in the seat feeling to begin with but with royal purple it noticably increased a bit.

In another thread, someone said that Royal Purple burns too quickly. Any truth to that?

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...hetic-oil.html

imo i dont believe so...i change my oil evey three to five thousand miles anyway so it would be hard to say. Their website says you can go higher between changes though.

i started using it immidiately after i picked up my wifes explorer sport trac back in dec 06 and when i change the oil every 3 grand or so, it comes out clear caramel colored, its a clean burning oil for sure, but to say it burns faster, well i dont think so, because their website says you can run longer durations between oil changes suggesting it will last longer rather than burn faster.

OK, I have gotten some information from Nissans Technical Training center.
For those of you who prefer whatever oil you choose, thats your choice.

Nissan recommends ESTER oil in the 370Z and the Maxima for the following reasons.
Ester oil bonds better than conventional oil to certain metals.
Ester oil is recommended for the 370Z per the owners manual because it will reduce the noise in the Vvel valve setup found in the Maxima and the 370Z.

Its your vehicle, use what you want, If a common complaint occurs on this site in relation to excessive valvetrain noise, please check to see if you are using what Nissan's Engineering and design team recommends or if you are using your own personal preferrence....

Haha...butt dynos. Sorry it will not increase your TQ. Maybe if you haven't done a oil change in 20k of miles.

Very true.

Bob is the oil guy forums has more info and all the tests that show it does. It isn't recommended and over hyped.

It is a gimmick like that blade you put in your intakes to swirl the air that never really helped.

Have you done any UOA's of your oil? If not then please don't say things like it hasn't. Many have and have seen high wear numbers compared to using other oils.

Clear is a bad thing also, that means it's not cleaning. It needs to come out dark so it's cleaning the engine of the deposits.

Use the Nissan recommended Ester
 

Esters provide better lubrication because they are "magnetically" attracted to each other (molecules) and to the metalic surfaces in the engine.

Motul has some great info about esters

MOTUL

Essentially what the article says is that normal oil will only protect metal to metal contact while the engine is running. Ester oil, because of it's attraction to the metal surface, will continue to create a film on the metalic surfaces even when the engine is not running.

So in addition to it's ability to be "custom tailored" it prevents excessive start-up wear (this is usually where most of the engine wear comes into play).

As part of the perks my dealership offers at no cost is a lifetime engine/transmission warranty and oil changes for life at $19.99 using the Esther oil which is designed for the 3.7 engine.

Many high quality oils that are PAO based have ESTER in them. Amsoil does as well. RP however does not last I heard.

I have to disagree with you! Highly possible! Different cars, different engines, different brands of oil! If not for those factors, we wouldn't have different results!
kdo2milger, last four words are what counts, in making the difference!

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So does anyone know if there's a consolidated listing somewhere of all the different brands of oil that contain Ester?

I am not sure if there is a complete list. You should be able to find out by looking at their websites.

Yeah I think I'm going to go with the Motul 300V. This thread has been very informative!

Motul 300v is good stuff. You won't be disappointed.

I take it, that means that you agree with me, and you know I'm right!

im not here to promote my personal brand, or perform any official oil test as on horsepower tv, i was just letting everyone know that i notice a slight improvement in performance in my mach1, hard to say in my wifes truck though because i canged it to rp as soon as i got it home from the dealership. her engine is the 3 valve 4.6 where as mine is the high performance 4 valve 4.6.

also the sludge thing (darker oil) should only be happening in cars with higher mileage on them. the mach1 oil does come out darker like you state, but as of yet its still clear in the truck because it has low mileage.

also if you look around bit on the rp website you will see a link to the performance section and under that section there are video links to various independants that have done dynos to prove that it does increase hp and tq.

Of course they are going to show it on that website because it's their product. There were dynos showing the twister or whatever in the intake gains power when in fact it makes you lose power.

RP again shown in 1000s of tests UOAs, etc on BITOG does not gain hp, or perform better than other synthetic oils. It causes more wear than others.

Also it is a known fact if the oil is coming out clean after many miles, means it's not doing it's job cleaning the particles, sludge etc out of the engine. Thinking because it's clear it's doing a better job is incorrect.

Ah, you speak of the Turbonator, Nizmoz. I bought a couple of those and installed them in my tailpipes. They made this cool, jet turbine sound. Remember when we were kids and stuck playing cards in the spokes of our bicycles to make them sound like motorbikes, sorta? Same concept. I think they actually created a thrust vortex out of my tailpipes and increased torque too. Awesome product.

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Haha :)

Does Royal Purple maintain its purple color after it’s put into service?

No. The dye that’s used to color the oil dissipates shortly after being put into service. The color will turn brown at some point.
That explains the caramel color he is referring too! No, your correct, it's not cleaning the engine! But it is not because it is not working. It's because the oil was changed way to soon, at 3 thousand miles. RP, needs to go at least 5 to 7 thousand miles to work properly.

yup

dad is right

rp says you can go up to 9000 miles for an oil change interval

i follow what your saying nizmoz, it is their website and i would do the same if it were my company, its "called" promoting your product with substantiated efforts which are done by non affiliated sources.

all im saying is that rp made a believer out of me, and i will continue to use it. and will use it along with k&n oil filters in the z too.

Let me google that for you

I wouldn't.