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semtex 04-30-2010 10:52 AM

Follow-up analysis to Car & Driver crashing Nismo 370Z at VIR
 
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You may recall that C&D smacked a Nismo 370Z into the wall at VIR a few months ago and promised further analysis of the root cause. Here's the thread on the original accident: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ismo-370z.html

Here is C&D's follow-up:

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1272642668

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1272642668

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1272642668

wishihadnav 04-30-2010 11:01 AM

dang im having trouble reading it..did they crash it again?..haha

phelan 04-30-2010 11:01 AM

so...everybody, time for a new front bumper! and for someone to design some rear brake ducts lol

daleks 04-30-2010 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 519782)
so...everybody, time for a new front bumper! and for someone to design some rear brake ducts lol

The back end on a Nismo already has slots in the rear bumper, which should create negative pressure behind the wheel well and pull cool air into the cavity. However, the front fender has no such slot. Hrm...

klubbheads 04-30-2010 11:11 AM

30-40 stops from 100-0 right after each other....??? Wtf are these guys smoking? The most demanding tracks in the world will not require 100-0 stops right after each other 30-40 times without a minute or so. Lower speed breaking and straits will be more than enough to cool the breaks in the process.

Raced a 335 recently "in a closed legal location" half way through the 10 mile race his breaks started to fade and mine weren't even smelling. Obviously he was harder on breaks to keep the pace going but it still doesn't explain the BS that this article is spitting out.

BTW yes my oil temp did go up to 260 3/4 of the run. :(

Push370zzz 04-30-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klubbheads (Post 519785)
30-40 stops from 100-0 right after each other....??? Wtf are these guys smoking? The most demanding tracks in the world will not require 100-0 stops right after each other 30-40 times without a minute or so. Lower speed breaking and straits will be more than enough to cool the breaks in the process.

Raced a 335 recently "in a closed legal location" half way through the 10 mile race his breaks started to fade and mine weren't even smelling. Obviously he was harder on breaks to keep the pace going but it still doesn't explain the BS that this article is spitting out.

BTW yes my oil temp did go up to 260 3/4 of the run. :(

It was just to determine at what point they start to really fail

klubbheads 04-30-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 519826)
It was just to determine at what point they start to really fail

From reading the whole thing it seemed like they were trying to justify why they crashed the nismo in the beginning. No modern car will all of a sudden not stop during a hard breaking. Before not stopping there is such thing as smoke, longer pedal travel, and longer stopping distances called "fading" which gradually build up during hard driving. They obviously ignored those signs and ended up crashing the car...

thekinn 04-30-2010 12:40 PM

Interesting read - thanks for posting it

kenchan 04-30-2010 02:57 PM

time for modshack to divert his intake duct to his brake duct. :D

370Zsteve 04-30-2010 03:44 PM

I say we push Stillen for a group buy on their new front fascia.

shabarivas 04-30-2010 03:54 PM

It honestly does not really matter about the justification... the driver obviously did not have the expertise to realize that the brakes were getting crappier... its not like it went from great to zero in one braking section... excuses excuses...

Forrest 04-30-2010 06:14 PM

It clearly said the Corvette and Porshe did not have problems. I think it said the mustang Why did none of the other cars suffer as bad as the z did?

I think the article is probably right.

Urbanracer 04-30-2010 06:31 PM

Funny how none of the other media outlets had or even reported issues of severe brake fade when they tested the car and that the probblem hasen't been replicated by anyone else. Doesn't the sport package have the same pads too?

Mize 04-30-2010 07:23 PM

in for updates and a link to the stillen fascia

Mize 04-30-2010 07:26 PM

You know, 'vettes put the calipers toward the back side of the wheel (at least in front) - could that alone allow for more cooling? In the front of the wheel you'll have a naturally stagnant area behind the wheel...


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