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DjSquall 04-30-2010 07:37 AM

Modding preparation questions...
 
Hey guys I'm trying to figure out a plan to mod my wife... Err I mean car.

I have an '09 touring nav package with 7AT transmission.
1) Can a sport package be added aftermarket and is it reasonably priced?
2) I'm going to get a supercharger or turbo later on (2-3 years) Is it worth it to do an intake kit now? My dealer is offering me 30% off on it.
3) Does anyone know if the Amuse Vestito kit is available in Canada? All the info I can find on it is from U.S. dealers :(
4) Im definitely forgetting something here.. I'll add it when I remember.

If you gurus can help me out here, that would be great. I want to make a beastie out of her down the road.. But I'm obviously not doing my research right because I can't find the answers to my questions. Thanks in advance.

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 07:42 AM

Sport package should be possible I think but it wont be cheap. since you also will have to pay for the dealership putting it all on. since I think the sport package with the 7AT is only the spoiler, rims and other body work.

Thank god you don't have the manual because I think it would of been pretty impossible to get the revmatch afterwards

What intake is your dealer offering?

You can buy it from the US dealers and have them ship it to canada.

DjSquall 04-30-2010 07:46 AM

Not sure about the brand/model.. I just had a quick one-minute talk with the manager about it since he uses it on his g37. He said he'd do it at 30% off. I'm wondering if the fuel savings are worth it.

And doesn't the sport pack include a "viscous limited slip differential?" and WTF is it lol.

If it's just a rim/brake job, I can probably find something way better than stock parts.

djpathfinder 04-30-2010 07:58 AM

You can upgrade to sports package parts but it will likely cost you more than the factory add-on cost. Wheel replacement (oem Ray's 19") cost about $1000-$1200 a piece alone if you were to buy from the dealer. Buying that through a member will be cheaper. Or just go aftermarket.

Here's what you need for the sport pkg: Akebono brakes, chin spoiler ($170 usd), rear spoiler, different suspension (go aftermarket springs/struts or coilover). Here's what you can't get: synchro rev match.

As far as CAI, you could as it'll improve the breathing. You could try to sell it later when you don't need it anymore. You could also upgrade other parts of the exhaust sytem instead to prep for forced induction (cbe, hfc, headers) but do your research to make sure these parts will be compatible with a sc or tt.

Z33knight 04-30-2010 08:17 AM

I'd go with a CAI and A CBE. That way you increase performance and let the car breath better. Better MPG. Plus you get to have some fun with the gains while you wait to push up to TT or SC.

You could go with headers and HFC's for more gains while you wait, but you will have to sell these down the road as they will not be compatible with a TT kit, but could be used with a SC kit if you go that route.

All these parts have been seen here used in the marketplace. Keep an eye out and you will find all you need for far less than retail.

m4a1mustang 04-30-2010 08:19 AM

Intake would not be worth it right now. Just drop in some K&Ns and call it a day.

DjSquall 04-30-2010 08:20 AM

As Vegitto-kun said, syncro-rev doesn't apply to a/t?

And I saw some really sweet rims around $400 a piece.. Rays are nice, but way overpriced.

I wonder if the intake kit will pay for itself via fuel savings overs 3 years. That's definitely going to be a DIY for me. As far as spoiler stuff, the Amuse Vestito kit will take care of all that anyways.

I'll definitely be looking into an exhaust that will match the FI

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 519602)
As Vegitto-kun said, syncro-rev doesn't apply to a/t?

And I saw some really sweet rims around $400 a piece.. Rays are nice, but way overpriced.

I wonder if the intake kit will pay for itself via fuel savings overs 3 years. That's definitely going to be a DIY for me. As far as spoiler stuff, the Amuse Vestito kit will take care of all that anyways.

I'll definitely be looking into an exhaust that will match the FI

our 7AT gets rev matching for free :roflpuke2:

I didn't even know the air intakes makes you use less fuel. IF you are going to get a CAI get the stillen long tube intakes. I have those and they are awesome.

You can always try contacting amuse themselves and see if you can order from there.

If you want a exhaust. Go get the fast intentions CBE and LTH(if you are going supercharged) Best ones on the market

DjSquall 04-30-2010 09:33 AM

Thanks vegitto, I'll be looking at those names first!

So my goal is to compile a list of parts first, then get pricing on them. My goal is 600 HP ;D considering a TT gives 550, it shouldn't be very hard. But my concern is handling with that much power, hence why wide tires brakes and suspension are a must.

JACKPAC 04-30-2010 09:35 AM

Sport package also comes with LSD:

HowStuffWorks "How Differentials Work"

kenchan 04-30-2010 09:51 AM

dont forget glue.

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 10:00 AM

Also get some GT-R stickers

+10 hp per sticker

kenchan 04-30-2010 10:02 AM

nono, they use Type-R stickers here.

sofa_king 04-30-2010 10:42 AM

If your looking at 600whp your probably gonna need a tranny cooler. I don't think the 7at tranny can hold that much power.

DjSquall 04-30-2010 11:15 AM

Ok guys, here's a parts list I've come up with so far, let me know what I'm missing, or if anything else needs to be added.

Dj Squall's 2009 Nissan 370Z 600 WHP Project:
1) Oil Cooler
2) Transmission Fluid Cooler
3) Limited-Slip Differential
4) High performance exhaust
5) High performance Brakes and Rotors
6) Wider Rims and Tires
7) Twin Turbos
8) Amuse Vestito body kit*
9) ECU Tune
10) Sport/Racing Suspension
11) Differential Cooler

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 01:14 PM

Don't forget the differential cooler.

wishihadnav 04-30-2010 01:34 PM

with all that power you'll probly want a heavier clutch.

DjSquall 04-30-2010 01:52 PM

Noted and noted. I will definitely not hesistate to overdo it a little bit if it will ensure better durability. This car will probably be my daily driver, so another headache will be street legality.

I'm thinking to do the wheels/brakes first, so the car is ready for winter. Next, the differential, then exhaust. After that, I'm thinking adding the coolers will be a good step to prep the car for the track. Hopefully I will be able to do this by the end of the year.

Also guys, keep in mind, this is actually my first car and I'm just learning as I go, so if you have advice for me or think I should do it differently, post or PM :D

(time to update the list on first page)

@ wishihadnav - I'm driving automatic.. So um there's no clutch I think??

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 519912)
with all that power you'll probly want a heavier clutch.

As far as I know you cant upgrade the clutch of the 7AT as it....apparently doesn't have one

wishihadnav 04-30-2010 01:57 PM

missed that..haah!

DjSquall 04-30-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 519938)
missed that..haah!

Haha it's ok :)

On a side note, a buddy of mine is saying that if I do the exhaust to prep for the TT, it will actually hurt the performace of the car until I install the TT kit? Apparently due to loss of backpressure? Anyone got more info on that?

wishihadnav 04-30-2010 02:08 PM

you should be fine...just dont buy headers..the loss of backpressure can be tuned out on NA cars but i wouldn't spend the extra money if your going TT.

Gunzero 04-30-2010 02:28 PM

Hey welcome to the forums!
I would just contact GTM and ask them to build your car.
It'll be less hassle for you :)

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 519945)
Haha it's ok :)

On a side note, a buddy of mine is saying that if I do the exhaust to prep for the TT, it will actually hurt the performace of the car until I install the TT kit? Apparently due to loss of backpressure? Anyone got more info on that?

Your friend is bullshitting.

I havent heard of improved exhausts downgrading performance.

DjSquall 04-30-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 519971)
Hey welcome to the forums!
I would just contact GTM and ask them to build your car.
It'll be less hassle for you :)

Oh if I it was a little closer than a couple thousand miles, I would. That's why I'm trying to figure out what parts to use first, then break it down into steps/stages. It's too early to bug Sam for advice right now, but I still might do it soon anyways. Maybe he will even help me find a local dealer here.

I may also stretch this project over 3+ years, for a few reasons. 1) parts are expensive when they just hit the market, always let the market play and let someone else be the guinea pig. 2) Its rather stressful financially to just jump into the fire. Believe me if I had the cash right here in my pocket, the Z wouldve already been on it's way to GTM :$

@ vegitto: Thats why I posted that. I may be a noob, but performance exhausts are called that for a reason.

wishihadnav 04-30-2010 02:36 PM

^^i agree..with a major build like that it would be best to leave it to your builder/tuner to choose the exhaust setup..the OTS exhaust we have available now might choke out...

steveg78 04-30-2010 04:53 PM

I would save your $$$ for replacing the tranny once you get the SC/TT. God only knows how that A/T will hold up. Also, ever consider a swap/trade or selling your car to get the same car with sport? Might actually end up being more cost effective in the long run. You have a whole lotta work cut out just to get to the sport level.

DjSquall 05-01-2010 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveg78 (Post 520174)
I would save your $$$ for replacing the tranny once you get the SC/TT. God only knows how that A/T will hold up. Also, ever consider a swap/trade or selling your car to get the same car with sport? Might actually end up being more cost effective in the long run. You have a whole lotta work cut out just to get to the sport level.

Yeah the tranny strength does bug me a little, I will seek some professional advice regarding it.

Well guys, it seems all my questions so far have been answered, I'm off to research the price ranges for the parts, and hopefully later on this year I will do the first upgrades! Of course I have to talk to my dealer about honoring the warranty as well :) I'll give out rep once I'm back at home on my pc..

Thanks everyone!


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