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kkmoslehpour 04-19-2010 06:08 AM

Help! Is the Sync rev match really that important?
 
Hello folks,
I am learning more about the Z and I am looking to buy the base model of the 370Z, but I also really want to buy the sports package just because of the fact that it has the SRM option. Can some one tell me if the SRM is really that useful or not? Please update me with this information...Thanks :D

fatcat777 04-19-2010 06:14 AM

go test drive one. i think you'll find your answer then.

kkmoslehpour 04-19-2010 06:29 AM

Can you please give me more detail on this.... of course i will test drive it, but i just want second opinions from other people..

craniac24 04-19-2010 06:43 AM

When I was getting ready to buy my Z, I thought to myself that I would never use the SyncroRev feature. I figured it was a nice gimmick...but I could blip my own throttle when downshifting, thank you very much.

After using it, I'm spoiled. It's so good that I don't see why I would ever turn it off. Get the sport package...you won't regret it.

Mize 04-19-2010 06:46 AM

If you're used to heel-toe-rev-matching on your own the SRM is a bit disturbing at first. You get used to it quickly, though and it becomes sort of the lazy way to downshift - at 6MT's version of automatic tranny.

I turn it off when I'm fun driving and on when I'm lazy.

fullmonty 04-19-2010 07:07 AM

I'd think yes, but I have a 7AT

rj45 04-19-2010 07:47 AM

I'm a manual guy through and through. I've always enjoyed blipping the throttle on downshifts myself, and I can rev-match smoothly, but I have to say, SRM does work very well. I've only had my Z a few days (40th anniversary...awesome car), but I've been using SRM more than I thought I would. I 'heel-and-toe' with my upper foot, not my heel. With SRM, I can keep my whole foot on the brake pedal when braking and downshifting.

Do you need SRM? No, but it does work as advertised, and it is useful.

NYBladeZ 04-19-2010 09:24 AM

get the sports package, the Rays wheels are really nice the 18's on the base don't do the Z justice

Red370 04-19-2010 10:59 AM

Can you blip a throttle? if the answer is yes, than no, SRM, while a nice creature comfort, is not the least bit necessary. I have a base and dont regret it one bit, the difference, $4,500 for me, got mine for 500 less than invoice, dealer wouldnt budge off the MSRP for the SP so I said fuck it. Not to mention the fact that VLSD's are worthless under hard driving conditions, the wheels would be immediately replaced, hate spoilers, brakes would be replaced, so it really wasnt a hard decision to make.

kenchan 04-19-2010 01:05 PM

it's not THAT important if you know how to heel and toe, but it's very convenient.

brakedrift12 04-19-2010 01:23 PM

No heel and toe, easy driving :)

Red370 04-19-2010 04:11 PM

heel/toe isnt for DD purposes anyways, unless you're that idiot that thinks street driving is the Tsukuba circuit and Tarzan is 2 cars ahead...

kenchan 04-19-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 504016)
heel/toe isnt for DD purposes anyways, unless you're that idiot that thinks street driving is the Tsukuba circuit and Tarzan is 2 cars ahead...

there is 2 ways to heel and toe. the street way is like a ball of foot for braking and blip with edge of foot. easy to control smaller blips for downshifting while braking lightly and to be in the right gear while in traffic is important if you're a car enthusiast. you can also accelerate from a hill with no e-brake with this technique. my dd is also MT and i use this technique all the time.

the other way is the traditional way using the actuall ball/toe of foot and heel. but this way requires you to stomp on the brakes which is a bit too much for street for the most part so i dont usually use this technique. especially with SRM i dont need to apply traditoinal heel and toe at all.

this is why SRM is convenient.

klubbheads 04-19-2010 04:37 PM

If you want to be fast then yes. If you want to have fun no.

I don't care how good you are with heel n toe the syncro rev is just too perfect and one less thing to worry about when breaking really hard before a turn. I recently did a very familiar canyon about 10 miles long with non stop turns and top speeds of less than 90 mph and the first half i went with syncro rev off and the other half on. I immediately noticed how much faster i was with SRM on. On the street and even in the canyons i have it off for fun but if i want to go 90% or above i will turn it on because it makes you a faster driver. Not to mention no more worrying about having the right type of shoes on for the heal n toe.

Red370 04-19-2010 04:47 PM

no one is denying the effectiveness of the feature, but the OP asked if it was necessary, to which I reply with no, it isnt.

TacoZ 04-19-2010 04:50 PM

Necessary? No.
Need? No.
Fun? Yes.
Want? Yes.

If you've got the extra money, go for it. I drove without it on for about a month and then I finally turned it on to see what the fuss was all about. Haven't turned it off since.

Red370 04-19-2010 04:51 PM

I say it creates bad habits, especially if you move to a car without the feature in the future or have to drive someone elses, but thats just me.

klubbheads 04-19-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 504073)
no one is denying the effectiveness of the feature, but the OP asked if it was necessary, to which I reply with no, it isnt.

My reply was directed to the OP. I didn't even read what others had to say. :)

I agree about bad habbits hence the reason that mine was on for only 5 miles out of 400 miles that i have on the car. :tup:

Red370 04-19-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by klubbheads (Post 504089)
My reply was directed to the OP. I didn't even read what others had to say. :)

I agree about bad habbits hence the reason that mine was on for only 5 miles out of 400 miles that i have on the car. :tup:

:tup:

craniac24 04-19-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 504073)
no one is denying the effectiveness of the feature, but the OP asked if it was necessary, to which I reply with no, it isnt.

He also asked if it was useful, the answer to which is undoubtedly "yes".

Red370 04-19-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craniac24 (Post 504179)
He also asked if it was useful, the answer to which is undoubtedly "yes".

to each their own, i wouldnt find it useful whatsoever. But I guess im a traditionalist.

kkmoslehpour 04-19-2010 06:30 PM

thanks again folks you guys are really helpfull !

IDZRVIT 04-19-2010 07:15 PM

Don't get me wrong but I love technology as much as some of you pups. However, I'm more of a purist when it comes to driving. No SRM, off with the VDC, drive it like you stole it on occasion and sometimes let the rev limiter do its thing for me. To answer your question OP, imho, no.

Draco 04-23-2010 12:12 PM

Syncorev
 
If you want to learn to drive a sports car, the synchorev is unecessary. If you want the car to drive itself, get a limo and hire a driver! I don't understand the desire to take the skill out of the equation. I suppose the same argument could be used against power steering though, so its a matter of preference. I chose not to purchase the syncho rev feature and save myself a few K, but I understand its appeal. At that point though, you might as well go automatic and get the paddle shifters and just sport shift.

Mize 04-23-2010 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco (Post 509859)
If you want to learn to drive a sports car, the synchorev is unecessary. If you want the car to drive itself, get a limo and hire a driver! I don't understand the desire to take the skill out of the equation. Maybe it makes it easier to get road **** or something. Other than that I think its a retarded feature for old geasers and swingers that want to look cool but don't have the coordination to maneuver a wheelchair.

Meh. I love to heel toe, but if you're looking at an hour+ in stop-go-to 50-stop-go traffic it's too much work so use the SR. No harm in that. Not necessary but certainly less lazy than an AT.

craniac24 04-23-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco (Post 509859)
If you want to learn to drive a sports car, the synchorev is unecessary. If you want the car to drive itself, get a limo and hire a driver! I don't understand the desire to take the skill out of the equation. I suppose the same argument could be used against power steering though, so its a matter of preference. I chose not to purchase the syncho rev feature and save myself a few K, but I understand its appeal. At that point though, you might as well go automatic and get the paddle shifters and just sport shift.

I think you're overreaching a little here. There's still a lot more skill to driving a manual even with the SRM feature.

Draco 04-23-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craniac24 (Post 510046)
I think you're overreaching a little here. There's still a lot more skill to driving a manual even with the SRM feature.

True, you still have to pick your shift points, but why not just get the automatic with the paddle shifters? Its a grey line that separates pilot from autopilot, and we each make the differentiation at different places. To me its just a little too far on the computer-controlled side of the equation.

Let me add, the 370Z is a totally badass car with or without SRM. I wouldn't turn one down with SRM in it, just prefer to heel toe/double-clutch the old-school way

trent1331 04-23-2010 04:57 PM

If its such a big deal, just get the sports package and be done with it. Not like its permanently enabled. Just hit the button and heel-toe to your heart's desire..

wishihadnav 04-23-2010 04:59 PM

like everyone says its fun to have but definately not necessary...95% of the time i drive without.

daleks 04-23-2010 05:16 PM

Just get the Sport package. The rims, brakes, spoiler, and LSD are all worth the price difference. Would you rather get a base and question whether you want SRM, or would you rather have SRM and be able to turn it off as needed? Find a dealer that has a Sport model on the lot and make an offer.

Mize 04-23-2010 05:50 PM

Daleks is right - even if you never enable sr you'll have an LSD and better brakes.

PapoZalsa 04-23-2010 08:29 PM

I don't even notice the SRM anymore.

370Zsteve 04-23-2010 08:31 PM

I have not turned it off since I bought the car.

fatcat777 04-23-2010 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 510514)
I have not turned it off since I bought the car.

I thought it was just a gimmick and it I would hate it before I drove the car.... Nope i love it! I've turned it off 3 times just to see how i used to drive. it stays on all the time now. makes the corners so much more fun.

k20z3 04-24-2010 12:00 AM

SRM is amazing -- you think that its just useless sometimes but it isnt!

Red370 04-24-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mize (Post 510352)
Daleks is right - even if you never enable sr you'll have an LSD and better brakes.

albeit, the crappiest one available :tup:

Mize 04-24-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 511294)
albeit, the crappiest one available :tup:

ok, but some > none, eh?

Rasengan 04-24-2010 07:26 PM

is it necessary? no
is it useful? yes
is it worth paying for the sport package just for the SRM? hell no
is the sport package worth the price with the wheels, brakes, SRM, LSD? hell yes

craniac24 04-24-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasengan (Post 511761)
is it necessary? no
is it useful? yes
is it worth paying for the sport package just for the SRM? hell no
is the sport package worth the price with the wheels, brakes, SRM, LSD? hell yes

Agreed.

onekneedown 04-24-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trent1331 (Post 510298)
If its such a big deal, just get the sports package and be done with it. Not like its permanently enabled. Just hit the button and heel-toe to your heart's desire..

Bravo Nuff Said!!!:iagree:


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