Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 489855)

I think i should have clarified. Im looking at a 2006-2008 Z4M, the one that people say feels raw and visceral. They have dropped to the $30k range and are price competitive with the Z i think. Many of them can be had with BMW's CPO warranty so a 2008 model will have warranty till 2014.

I've got the Cayman S as a remote possibility since i don't know anything about Porsche maintenance cost or insurance cost. The dealership down the street has one in the low $40ks.

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 490098)

There's no new Cayman S selling in the $30k range. Not sure why that keeps coming up as an option.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 490330)

Now its a matter of finding a Z4M and seeing how i feel about it.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 491340)

Thanks for the support guys!

What do you guys think of this, a rendering of the 2011 1M or M1:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4...pe20081280.png

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 491772)

thats not an M1, its a 135i with M package option, to class that car with a 3 or 5 would be blasphemy. Its like the cavalier of BMW and people know this.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 492421)

Dont be in denial man, a true M car based on the 1 series is coming real soon and it will be measured against the 370, among others. There is news it will have a more unique customization program with matte paint options, all M paint options, CF options, etc. We will know for sure in Dec.

Originally Posted by fairladyZ34 (Post 492432)

is it me or are the headlights of the 1 series the worst part?

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 490334)

I hear you about the engine.