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Patel511 03-29-2010 11:24 PM

So confused need help!!
 
Okay, thanks to Robert_Nash for the hook-up of VPP!!! But I have found myself in a real dilemma... I can get the Z using VPP or I can get an Evo X for $32,000 with a 5-speed and hids, bigger wing, and rockford fosgate... yet the interior doesn't hold a candle to the Z. The revs during highway cruising is around 3200 to 3800 rpm, but it's also easy to derive power from the engine.

The Z has a better sounding engine and better for cruising. Yet only two seats... I love the interior in the Z.

I gotta choose quick or both deals will slip away.............................

HELP :confused:

6MT 03-29-2010 11:27 PM

You might get some biased replies on this forum.

Patel511 03-29-2010 11:35 PM

Ya I posted on both forums to see what people like about their cars to see which one relates to me the most. I like the AWD 4-seater but I'm used to V6 engines...

Patel511 03-29-2010 11:40 PM

I've never owned a turbo'd car

Zsteve 03-29-2010 11:42 PM

do you want a riced out car or a nice sports car? And Im not being a d!ck as some people like the more too fast too furious look (rice to me) while others like a good looking sports car. Now if you are going to get the bigger wings and all even if you get the Z then Id go with the Evo, as a Z doest look good like that.

Patel511 03-29-2010 11:48 PM

^ See there is another thing that gets me... isn't a civic with a huge wing and neon lights and a loud annoying exhaust a ricer... yes the evo has a wing but it has power. But it doesn't have the classy look of the Z for sure, I understand it from that side.

Another question is being able to fit into the Z.. I fit in the 350z haven't tried the 370Z. I am 5'11 210lbs

Patel511 03-29-2010 11:52 PM

I've sat in the Evo.. but they never let me test drive it. They say, "you know what you're buying when you're interested in an Evo"

Zsteve 03-29-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Patel511 (Post 472181)
^ See there is another thing that gets me... isn't a civic with a huge wing and neon lights and a loud annoying exhaust a ricer... yes the evo has a wing but it has power. But it doesn't have the classy look of the Z for sure, I understand it from that side.

Another question is being able to fit into the Z.. I fit in the 350z haven't tried the 370Z. I am 5'11 210lbs

Rice doesnt apply to Honda only, its more like the race car looking car but it isnt used as such and is only on the street. If your not racing on a track the BIG wing does nothing more than what a subtle one does. The Evo does have power but it still has that too fast too furious look and IMO thats kinda ricey. The Z is really a true classy sports car. But it really depends on your taste.

Zsteve 03-29-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Patel511 (Post 472187)
I've sat in the Evo.. but they never let me test drive it. They say, "you know what you're buying when you're interested in an Evo"

I would never buy a car I cant test drive.

mjch3n 03-30-2010 12:09 AM

Yea wtf no test drive? The dealers i've gone always push me to test drive a car first before even checking out all the features. Don't buy unless you know what you're getting..and that requires a test drive.

Patel511 03-30-2010 12:18 AM

^I totally agree... I test drove the G37 when it came out so i sort of know what to expect from the engine

Patel511 03-30-2010 12:25 AM

So will I be able to fit it the question lol

chuckd05 03-30-2010 01:28 AM

two different cars. if you want to make 350+ hp get the evo, if youre cool with the Z being darn quick for its price / class (faster than evo x stock) and looking 10x's nicer than the evo than get the Z

but if you want to go mod crazy Id get the evo.

IDZRVIT 03-30-2010 09:19 AM

If your single or married without kids, get the Z. It's a no brainer. You'll love it.

Nick911sc 03-30-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Patel511 (Post 472214)
So will I be able to fit it the question lol

I'm 6ft. I fit fine.

I believe there are a few members on here well above 6ft who have said they fit in the car with 0 issues.

Never buy a car without a test drive....If they won't let you theres obviously something up.

shoopajae10 03-30-2010 09:28 AM

Get the Evo. Id like to be exclusive for awhile until i start seeing 370z literally everywhere.... =(

UNKNOWN_370 03-30-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 472191)
Rice doesnt apply to Honda only, its more like the race car looking car but it isnt used as such and is only on the street. If your not racing on a track the BIG wing does nothing more than what a subtle one does. The Evo does have power but it still has that too fast too furious look and IMO thats kinda ricey. The Z is really a true classy sports car. But it really depends on your taste.

We in recent years have changed the meaning of rice to be the uglier japanese cars. But 20 or 25 years ago, while we were in a cold war with the soviet union and american patriotism was dangerously runamuck. Rice meant cheap japanese car of any brand and was associated with not supporting the "american economy" when you bought one. The favorite joke on japanese sports cars was that the exhaust made that sound because it was laced with raw rice. The Z also had this label. Most americans hated the Z and Rx-7 stating they were the cheapest copies of porsches and corvettes.
Now americans have come to accept the inferior quality of the domestic sports car so they buy what they consider "the exception to the rule in japanese design" and call everything else rice. Then scream out japanese sports car heritage in a Z or skyline like your great grandfather was asian auto engineer??? Confusing ain't it. Lol.
Why can't you just call a car cheap without the subtle racist subversive comments? An evo in styling is what the japanese enthusiast market likes. Its part of there culture. If the mitsu is rice? Then the stang is a potatomobile? Or maybe a camaro is a corn machine? The challenger... hmmm the wheatmaker??? Keep it real please.

theDreamer 03-30-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 472569)
We in recent years have changed the meaning of rice to be the uglier japanese cars. But 20 or 25 years ago, while we were in a cold war with the soviet union and american patriotism was dangerously runamuck. Rice meant cheap japanese car of any brand and was associated with not supporting the "american economy" when you bought one. The favorite joke on japanese sports cars was that the exhaust made that sound because it was laced with raw rice. The Z also had this label. Most americans hated the Z and Rx-7 stating they were the cheapest copies of porsches and corvettes.
Now americans have come to accept the inferior quality of the domestic sports car so they buy what they consider "the exception to the rule in japanese design" and call everything else rice. Then scream out japanese sports car heritage in a Z or skyline like your great grandfather was asian auto engineer??? Confusing ain't it. Lol.
Why can't you just call a car cheap without the subtle racist subversive comments? An evo in styling is what the japanese enthusiast market likes. Its part of there culture. If the mitsu is rice? Then the stang is a potatomobile? Or maybe a camaro is a corn machine? The challenger... hmmm the wheatmaker??? Keep it real please.

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To the OP, you just need to break it down by what your needs & future are with the car. Also, I ended up not even really looking at the Evo X in the end because the dealerships were being the same about a test drive. I was about to leave the dealership with a group of them standing around me when one asked what I have already test driven, listed off a few cars, they started to scramble to find the keys but I had already left.

Icib 03-30-2010 11:01 AM

I am 6 ft 3 and 95 kg. I fit without a problem. If I wanted it perfect I would like just a little bit more leg room, but that is just being picky. It never annoyed me in any way!

And about evo X vs 370z.
My personal opinion is that I would never ever buy a sedan with spoilers and wings. And for a fun car I want atleast 6 cilinders (I know this isnt the same for everyone but its just a preference).

In my book the only reason to pick an evo X is for its room. I am lucky enough to have a second car from work which has alot more space.

I never drove an evo X because I never considerd it, however if a salesman doesnt want me to testdrive a car I would never buy it. Seems to me that he isnt to convinced about the car. (atleast thats how I would understand it, if its true or not)

Mize 03-30-2010 11:02 AM

If I could have only one car and it was between those two I'd take the Evo simply because I live in a snow state and have kids. If this was my "fun" car and I already had multiple daily drivers I'd do like I did and get a Z Roadster :)

Zsteve 03-30-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 472569)
We in recent years have changed the meaning of rice to be the uglier japanese cars. But 20 or 25 years ago, while we were in a cold war with the soviet union and american patriotism was dangerously runamuck. Rice meant cheap japanese car of any brand and was associated with not supporting the "american economy" when you bought one. The favorite joke on japanese sports cars was that the exhaust made that sound because it was laced with raw rice. The Z also had this label. Most americans hated the Z and Rx-7 stating they were the cheapest copies of porsches and corvettes.
Now americans have come to accept the inferior quality of the domestic sports car so they buy what they consider "the exception to the rule in japanese design" and call everything else rice. Then scream out japanese sports car heritage in a Z or skyline like your great grandfather was asian auto engineer??? Confusing ain't it. Lol.
Why can't you just call a car cheap without the subtle racist subversive comments? An evo in styling is what the japanese enthusiast market likes. Its part of there culture. If the mitsu is rice? Then the stang is a potatomobile? Or maybe a camaro is a corn machine? The challenger... hmmm the wheatmaker??? Keep it real please.

I guess your definition and my definition are different, and thats for real.

wishihadnav 03-30-2010 11:26 AM

i like both cars.

Zsteve 03-30-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icib (Post 472638)
I am 6 ft 3 and 95 kg. I fit without a problem. If I wanted it perfect I would like just a little bit more leg room, but that is just being picky. It never annoyed me in any way!

And about evo X vs 370z.
My personal opinion is that I would never ever buy a sedan with spoilers and wings. And for a fun car I want atleast 6 cilinders (I know this isnt the same for everyone but its just a preference).

In my book the only reason to pick an evo X is for its room. I am lucky enough to have a second car from work which has alot more space.

I never drove an evo X because I never considerd it, however if a salesman doesnt want me to testdrive a car I would never buy it. Seems to me that he isnt to convinced about the car. (atleast thats how I would understand it, if its true or not)

Or that the guy wasnt serious about buying and the salesman didnt want to put unneeded milage on it.

Mize 03-30-2010 12:27 PM

When I was younger I used to have a hard time with salesmen thinking I was just joyriding. I don't know how old Patel511 is, but if you look young a lot of people won't take you seriously.

Red370 03-30-2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shoopajae10 (Post 472462)
Get the Evo. Id like to be exclusive for awhile until i start seeing 370z literally everywhere.... =(

dammit you took my line, get the EVO please, one less Z on the street makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

AndyZ 03-30-2010 02:16 PM

I did test drive evoX. I liked the design and styling but as reliability. The trunk cant even put a travling bags and the seats not folding. Mostly major turbo lag.
So i bought the 08 STI. And now i got Z. Much more refined more classier better looking and for power wise FI V6 will eat turbo 4banger. That was my conclusion
also my driving style fits to RWD. I do like AWD and it is fast but for me RWD is way more fun

evo < sti = or < Z

Patel511 03-30-2010 06:39 PM

Well, I just got back from the Nissan dealer and I was trying to use the VPP. I had called earlier to make sure they accepted VPP's and I was told that they did. So i got to the dealership and asked for the 40th edition, we were working through the paperwork by this time an hour had already passed and the sales manager came by and looked it over, then she went to the GM to get final approval and he said no to the VPP. I was furious at this point and walked out... The best excuse was that they could try to give me a deal. I was serious about purchasing my dad was there too... So as we were leaving the salesman came out to apologize and he said "I hope there is no bad blood between us" I said of course not cuz it wasn't his fault. I understand no VPP on a GTR cuz its expensive and rare but I have already seen people get it on the 40th on this forum. I am 20 and will be 21 here in a month, just for reference

theDreamer 03-30-2010 06:48 PM

If you want the Z, I would call another dealership about the VPP program (they might even have a 40th).

Red370 03-30-2010 06:48 PM

oh man, you have more couth than I buddy, i would have spit out every curse word in the book at all of them for wasting my time. I'm reminded of a quote from half baked:

http://guanabee.com/Scarface_Slacker_6_19_07.jpg

Patel511 03-30-2010 07:05 PM

^HAHAHA
There r three dealerships close by and two of the three said no but the third will reply soon enough

Mize 03-30-2010 07:14 PM

What a d*ckhead. Not just for refusing your purchase but for totally making his salesperson look bad. Hope number 3 comes through.

Patel511 03-30-2010 07:46 PM

^ I see ur located in Cincy, I am too!! Go BEARCATS

mjch3n 03-30-2010 07:49 PM

The dealerships in some regions cannot accept VPP on 40ths.. my salesman showed me an e-mail from his regional nissan rep clearly stating that they were instructed not to accept VPP on 40ths. However, ive read many forums members have gotten VPP or better on 40ths so you should go ahead and keep trying..good luck

fullmonty 03-30-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Patel511 (Post 473454)
Well, I just got back from the Nissan dealer and I was trying to use the VPP. I had called earlier to make sure they accepted VPP's and I was told that they did. So i got to the dealership and asked for the 40th edition, we were working through the paperwork by this time an hour had already passed and the sales manager came by and looked it over, then she went to the GM to get final approval and he said no to the VPP. I was furious at this point and walked out... The best excuse was that they could try to give me a deal. I was serious about purchasing my dad was there too... So as we were leaving the salesman came out to apologize and he said "I hope there is no bad blood between us" I said of course not cuz it wasn't his fault. I understand no VPP on a GTR cuz its expensive and rare but I have already seen people get it on the 40th on this forum. I am 20 and will be 21 here in a month, just for reference

Money talks. I'm just a little older than you and at this stage of the game they should of realized you were serious. I'd find another dealership, its not like you are looking for a 1 in a million car.

Zsteve 03-30-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 473594)
Money talks. I'm just a little older than you and at this stage of the game they should of realized you were serious. I'd find another dealership, its not like you are looking for a 1 in a million car.

I dont think it was an age thing as they had probably already checked his credit and all, it must have been something like they want full $$$$$ on the 40th so they said no. An individual shop thing more likely.

Patel511 03-30-2010 08:02 PM

They didn't even run the credit, my dad's credit is 700+ so its not a problem

Mize 03-30-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patel511 (Post 473578)
^ I see ur located in Cincy, I am too!! Go BEARCATS

PM me with which dealer and salesperson. The guy I worked with was no hassle.

(I'm actually West Chester, but close enough)

You're going to love this car.

Patel511 03-30-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjch3n (Post 473585)
The dealerships in some regions cannot accept VPP on 40ths.. my salesman showed me an e-mail from his regional nissan rep clearly stating that they were instructed not to accept VPP on 40ths. However, ive read many forums members have gotten VPP or better on 40ths so you should go ahead and keep trying..good luck

That bugs me here in Ohio we miss out on great deals all the time because of things like this.


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