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BlackCherryZ 03-19-2010 01:01 AM

is it ok to shift into 2nd gear while going 60+mph?
 
is it ok to shift into 2nd gear while going 60+mph?

just curious as to what gear would be optimal..... for instance, if someone pulls next to you, do you down shift to second or third while going 60+ mph, or even when you need to accelerate FASTER while going 60mph to avoid impending harm........

anyone with particular experience?

ALSO, I AM NOT CONDONING any street race..........it is just of curiosity......

Red370 03-19-2010 01:06 AM

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AK370Z 03-19-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCherryZ (Post 454032)
just curious as to what gear would be optimal for semi-street racing situations..... for instance, if someone pulls next to you, do you down shift to second or third while going 60+ mph

You should try N (Neutral) for any kind of street racing. It's not as cool as you may think (also it's not allowed here ;))

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But to answer you question, 2nd gear is optimum if you need to accelerate quickly to catch a yellow light or whatever :tup:.

209Z 03-19-2010 01:26 AM

haha honestly. Not to bash or say anything. Is this your first car?
is this your first manual car?

BlackCherryZ 03-19-2010 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 209Z (Post 454079)
haha honestly. Not to bash or say anything. Is this your first car?
is this your first manual car?



nope, this is not my first car and definitely not my first manual........ had s2k, two 300zx, rx7 TT, etc.....

also, i am NOT condoning any street-race, but i was just curious while driving on a highway.........

AK370Z 03-19-2010 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCherryZ (Post 454108)
also, i am NOT condoning any street-race, but i was just curious while driving on a highway.........

Smart man ;). We can keep the thread open then :tup:

yes, I would probably downshift to 3rd first for a somewhat quick acceleration. 2nd gear might be a little too high (may put you somewhere in 6K RPM with only 1500 more to go)

Xan 03-19-2010 01:55 AM

I worked out a (ruff estimate) table for you, so you know the rpm to speed in each gear.

I based it on the sports tire with manual:

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/a...Pics/table.png

AK370Z 03-19-2010 02:01 AM

Thanks XAN! Judging by the chart, DEF 3rd gear! :tup:

Red370 03-19-2010 02:17 AM

3rd is definitely the lowest gear i'll go while going 60+ to pick up some passing speed, and usually when i'm cruising, I gotta double throttle blip to get to about 4-4.5k before I let the clutch out, throttle response on these things suck a$$.

gumpy 03-19-2010 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 454118)
I worked out a (ruff estimate) table for you, so you know the rpm to speed in each gear.

I based it on the sports tire with manual:

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/a...Pics/table.png

can't our cars hit 100khp/62mph in 2nd gear?

Matt 03-19-2010 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 454132)
can't our cars hit 100khp/62mph in 2nd gear?

My Nismo (should be same as base) redlines in 2nd gear right at 62 mph.

Xan did indicate it was a rough estimate. Thanks for the chart!


My personal experiences, while catching a light or needing to get out of a hairy situation on the highway, I'll drop into 3rd if I'm below 60. Otherwise, I'll use 4th. You just gotta play with it and see what you're comfortable with. Same as up-shifting, really.

370Zsteve 03-19-2010 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 454052)
You should try N (Neutral) for any kind of street racing.

:icon18:

Xan 03-19-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 454132)
can't our cars hit 100khp/62mph in 2nd gear?

There are many reasons why it's only an estimate.
Some reasons are that how the tire deforms, which is influenced by another 100 things. So I used a general rule. The gear ratio's and final drive I used might not be excact, I just got them of the inet. And so on, at the same time if your accelerating up to red line, than quickly shift, there could be some inertia that accelerates the car while you already pushed the clutch. And how many people would keep a car at red line steady state second gear to see their speed. :-)

Anyways moral is the only way to truly know is using the fun way, the excel sheet way is just an indication. :tup:

DIGItonium 03-19-2010 08:25 AM

You have little room to accelerate from 60mph by downshifting to 2nd, and then be forced to shift to 3rd. Precious time lost compared to simply shifting to 3rd and punching it.

Modshack 03-19-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 454275)
You have little room to accelerate from 60mph by downshifting to 2nd,

As in NONE (usable anyway)

2theextreme 03-19-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 454044)

:icon18: Lee Hotti FTW! Years later and he's still showing up in threads. Awesome!

Red370 03-19-2010 09:22 AM

No one, and I repeat, No one, can top the awesomeness going on here..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9xsnZ-wNWq...e_hotti_07.jpg

ZKindaGuy 03-19-2010 10:10 AM

Try it and lets us know if you start to see transmission parts or carbon-fiber drive-shaft splinters trail behind the car in your rear view mirror....

BlackCherryZ 03-19-2010 10:20 AM

good feedback *^^* thanks for the estimated chart.....

thank God i did not down-shift to 2nd gear the other day when i was going 60+.......

i just passed 1200 miles, so i would like to see what the car is capable of........

with my s2k, going to 2nd gear was no problem....... but Z is a different beast.....

RCZ 03-19-2010 10:46 AM

I see your Douchebags and I raise you some ICY HOT STUNTAZ

http://justkramer.files.wordpress.co...8833-800wi.jpg

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 454339)
No one, and I repeat, No one, can top the awesomeness going on here..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9xsnZ-wNWq...e_hotti_07.jpg


Zsteve 03-19-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 454455)
I see your Douchebags and I raise you some ICY HOT STUNTAZ

http://justkramer.files.wordpress.co...8833-800wi.jpg

All I can say is :facepalm:

Embarrassing. I think those stuntaz are really c untas s.

2theextreme 03-19-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 454455)
I see your Douchebags and I raise you some ICY HOT STUNTAZ

http://justkramer.files.wordpress.co...8833-800wi.jpg

:bowrofl:

kannibul 03-19-2010 11:09 AM

There's more pics of those icyhot gheys...lol Pointing at their rims, and posing...lulz.

kannibul 03-19-2010 11:15 AM

Speaking of rims...

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...bul/hood-1.jpg

BlackCherryZ 03-19-2010 11:17 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

hi-jacked?

well, kinda VERY ANNOYING but i got my question answered......

didymus 03-19-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 454472)
All I can say is :facepalm:

Embarrassing. I think those stuntaz are really c untas s.

I love the photoshop bling. :icon18:

RCZ 03-19-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCherryZ (Post 454526)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

hi-jacked?

well, kinda VERY ANNOYING but i got my question answered......

lol sorry

This happens when the questions aren't taken seriously.

You ask if its ok to shift into second at 60+. Or in other words, would you start a 60-roll in second or third for a race?

The answer is don't do that. The reason is that you will have to shift into third immediately. You will waste time shifting where you could have been accelerating and that will cost you more speed than what you gained by starting the race in second. 3rd gear at 60+ puts you somewhere in the 4500RPM i think and that should be OK as far as the power band, however I think you're better off asking for a 40-roll and starting in second.

I think the reason why your thread was derailed is because we don't like street racing around here and there is hardly any other application to your question.

mick 03-19-2010 03:07 PM

i am pretty sure an AT 370z would accelerate much faster than a manual 370z at 60 mph stuck in 2nd gear :)

LaSeeno 03-19-2010 03:25 PM

3rd is the lowest I ever drop too and I do it often. I wouldn't drop to 2nd unless I was < 30mph.

LaSeeno 03-19-2010 03:28 PM

At least the Icy Hot StuntaZ we're doing it as a joke. Lee Hotti is for real.

blue660r01 03-19-2010 03:36 PM

Like everyone said.....3rd

Liquid_G 03-19-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCherryZ (Post 454412)
good feedback *^^* thanks for the estimated chart.....

thank God i did not down-shift to 2nd gear the other day when i was going 60+.......

i just passed 1200 miles, so i would like to see what the car is capable of........

with my s2k, going to 2nd gear was no problem....... but Z is a different beast.....

ya but doesn't the S2K have like a 9000 rpm redline? might have something to do with it.

mick 03-19-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LaSeeno (Post 454794)
3rd is the lowest I ever drop too and I do it often. I wouldn't drop to 2nd unless I was < 30mph.

you know, the video on youtube where they raced the 370z with the cayman, boxster, z4, and exige, the japanese race driver only used 3rd and 4th gears (the digital readout showed which gear he used)

he never used 1, 2, 5, and 6 for the entire race.

nicknick 03-19-2010 07:47 PM

WTF is going on, who is buying these cars? These cars are great but there appears to me at least, to be some kind of retard buying these cars too that is sullying its reputation. Maybe Nissan needs to up the price and include a few extra items on the car, maybe that will keep the "undesirable" element away.

Is it ok to shift into 2nd when doing 60mp/h and above,......huh try it and see.

kenchan 03-19-2010 07:59 PM

i recommend you use 1st gear at 60mph+


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