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Jeffblue 03-09-2010 08:19 AM

Labor cost of installing a new clutch
 
Just out of curiosity, what is the labor cost of installing a new clutch?

Anytime i see someone mention that they are going to buy a Z for their first MT car, lots of people say things like ' don't burn out your clutch' etc.... essentially, if you wear out your clutch because your drove the car poorly in the begining, and had to replace it several thousand miles earlier, it would be the end of the world. Based on the price of the clutch replacements they sell at the Z store.. (About 400 bucks) it doesn't seem like this would really be the most financially devastating part to replace. I mean... a new set of the sport tires cost more than the clutch and there are people out there are still people out there doing burnouts. then, some people have this notion that it is somehow more worthwhile to buy a beater or to rent a car to learn on. If someone mentions something of teaching their mom drive their car or anything that implied that someone other than a professional racing driver will be controlling the the third pedal, some people go ape****.

so am i missing something, or does the labor cost some outlandish amount that justifies all of the above sentiments?

Vegitto-kun 03-09-2010 08:32 AM

lets just say me and a mate had a half day work replacing the clutch of a forst escort.

actually replacing the clutch plates is not something done in one hour.

kannibul 03-09-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 436055)
Just out of curiosity, what is the labor cost of installing a new clutch?

Anytime i see someone mention that they are going to buy a Z for their first MT car, lots of people say things like ' don't burn out your clutch' etc.... essentially, if you wear out your clutch because your drove the car poorly in the begining, and had to replace it several thousand miles earlier, it would be the end of the world. Based on the price of the clutch replacements they sell at the Z store.. (About 400 bucks) it doesn't seem like this would really be the most financially devastating part to replace. I mean... a new set of the sport tires cost more than the clutch and there are people out there are still people out there doing burnouts. then, some people have this notion that it is somehow more worthwhile to buy a beater or to rent a car to learn on. If someone mentions something of teaching their mom drive their car or anything that implied that someone other than a professional racing driver will be controlling the the third pedal, some people go ape****.

so am i missing something, or does the labor cost some outlandish amount that justifies all of the above sentiments?

Clutches are expensive components...and labor is too.

4-6 hours labor + expensive clutch = $700 OTD minimum, and that's not considering either replacing (ideal) or having the OEM flywheel ground a bit.

mick 03-09-2010 09:39 AM

i don't know about the z but

i drove:

the 92 honda civic -- 100K miles
the 99 bmw 328i -- 75K miles
and the 2005 mb c320 -- 62k miles

without having to replace the clutches.

Matt 03-09-2010 09:49 AM

Every car I've driven has been a MT. While I've only been driving for a little over 10 years, I've never had to replace a clutch on a car. I learned MT on a 72 bug, which I still own, and even started teaching my fiance how to drive on it. To this day, no clutch issues.

I think the whole "don't burn out your clutch!" and "don't engine brake...brakes are cheaper than clutches!" arguments are a little bit on the dramatic side. My Dad has been driving for almost 40 years and he's had to replace the clutch in 1 car of his.

Modshack 03-09-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 436200)
Every car I've driven has been a MT. While I've only been driving for a little over 10 years, I've never had to replace a clutch on a car. I learned MT on a 72 bug, which I still own, and even started teaching my fiance how to drive on it. To this day, no clutch issues.

I think the whole "don't burn out your clutch!" and "don't engine brake...brakes are cheaper than clutches!" arguments are a little bit on the dramatic side. My Dad has been driving for almost 40 years and he's had to replace the clutch in 1 car of his.

:iagree: Of my 57 cars owned I've yet to replace a clutch over 45 years of driving. I've got a friend now with 212K miles on his Audi TT and original clutch.
Most of my Audi buddies are well over 100K on originals.
If you want to play though, you're gonna pay (eventually)

puckshaw 03-09-2010 10:53 AM

I had over 60K on my stock STi clutch when I sold it with no issues. That included about 10 track days and over 100 auto-x runs (with launches on every run) at stage 2 power levels. Seems like a clutch can take quite a bit of 'abuse' as long as the proper technique is used.

To answer your original question though, yes labor can be pretty high on replacing a clutch.

Jeffblue 03-09-2010 11:00 AM

Thanks for your input. I understand that its bad to damage or cause unnecessary wear on any part of a car, and anything that can be done to make a part last longer should be done. However i think some go to extremes once clutch/flywheel are mentioned and it doesn't seem to make sense. Based on what everyone here has said, the need to replace a clutch is very rare, and IMO 700 dollars to replace a clutch if you have to do it ONCE in the life of a vehicle really isn't that steep. I mean.... look at the amount of money people put into their cars in terms of mods.

m4a1mustang 03-09-2010 11:01 AM

My first manual transmission was a 2003 Mustang GT. We went through many a trip down the drag strip... tons of powershifts and all that jazz... I traded it in with I think 50,000 miles on it and the clutch was still working like a champ.

I don't know how long I'll own this car, but I don't anticipate replacing the clutch UNLESS I need a new clutch that can handle more power... i.e. if I go FI.

370Zvetlana 03-09-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 436300)
:iagree: Of my 57 cars owned I've yet to replace a clutch over 45 years of driving.

i dont see how youd have to replace a cluctch, sounds like you replace the whole car every 6 months lol

Matt 03-09-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zvetlana (Post 436434)
i dont see how youd have to replace a cluctch, sounds like you replace the whole car every 6 months lol

:inoutroflpuke:

m4a1mustang 03-09-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zvetlana (Post 436434)
i dont see how youd have to replace a cluctch, sounds like you replace the whole car every 6 months lol

Yeah... I sort of wonder how long Modshack will be here until he moves on to another car. :icon18:

Lug 03-09-2010 12:06 PM

The problem is that if you don't use the clutch correctly, you can certainly wear it out fairly quickly. The prime example is "riding" the cluch. This is where you leave your foot on the clutch with just enough force to cause it to slip a tiny bit as you drive. Can take a clutch out fairly quickly. The good news is that as long as you don't get into this habit, the clutch will last a long long time. the other major advantage of a manual clutch is sthat it's cheaper and easier to upgrade if you want to mod your car for more power.

Modshack 03-09-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 436493)
Yeah... I sort of wonder how long Modshack will be here until he moves on to another car. :icon18:

LOL...Who knows? I can tell you I have TWO 370's in the driveway as we speak!

http://images29.fotki.com/v310/photo...MG_2355-vi.jpg

370zdub 03-09-2010 02:22 PM

^WTH? Did you buy another one modshack? I hope you don't go away soon, your DIY's and input are always very helpful.

Zsteve 03-09-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 436493)
Yeah... I sort of wonder how long Modshack will be here until he moves on to another car. :icon18:

He should just buy a car lot and have it stocked with different cars and drive them as he pleases.

Modshack 03-09-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zdub (Post 436710)
^WTH? Did you buy another one modshack? I hope you don't go away soon, your DIY's and input are always very helpful.

LOL...Thanks! Actually, that's Zpirates car. We started puting on stainless brake lines on saturday and boogered a short brake hardline off the rear caliper due to the Gorilla assembly torques used by Nissan. Only an $8 part, but needless to say his car got stranded on my lift. He'll be doing a DIY on this with what we learned. Mine should be a piece of cake this weekend after all that! I did buy another car though...2003 Golf GTI 20th anniversary model..11K miles on it...couldn't resist! One can never have too many Blue cars....:-)

http://images41.fotki.com/v195/photo...MG_2468-vi.jpg

370zdub 03-09-2010 02:50 PM

^thats a sweet car, im looking forward to the DIY. :tup:

kenchan 03-09-2010 04:52 PM

to the OP- you got to suck REAL BAD inorder to have to replace the clutch in a few thousand miles.... the clutch can take quite a beating in general.

cab83_750 03-09-2010 07:08 PM

Does anyone have a price for clutch replacement? I do my own work so I save on labor; thus I am curious.

I was forced to learn due to:

1. My allowance per day when I was in college was $1.00 per day. This allowance lasted for 3 years.
2. The dealer for my other car wanted about $1,000 for semi-major tune up. $2,000 per year was way too much

:). My point is if you could.... Learn and save throughout your life

Brendan@Bwalk 03-09-2010 07:18 PM

:tup: on the MkIV. I cut my teeth in old 16V GTI's, so I had a pompus attitude towards MkIV's for awhile, until I drove a 20th. Awesome cars.

JB-370z 03-09-2010 07:32 PM

My old RSX-S Turboed with 35k miles and no clutch issues. Some folks should just go auto.

kenchan 03-09-2010 08:35 PM

yah, ive been driving MT for a long time.. not once have i had to replace a clutch on my car.

Jeffblue 03-09-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 437050)
to the OP- you got to suck REAL BAD inorder to have to replace the clutch in a few thousand miles.... the clutch can take quite a beating in general.

no i meant a few thousand miles earlier than if you hadn't learned on the car.

With all of the above sentiments in mind and how much of a beating the clutch can take... how many of you guys would actually be willing to teach someone to drive stick on your Z?


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