Hybrid 370z
 

It might be a repost, but here it goes. Did not find anything while doing a search.

Would you buy it?

"The Hybrid Nissan 370Z sports car will be powered by this revolutionary Lithium Ion battery pack to be produced by a Nissan-NEC partnership. This battery pack has nearly twice the energy density of the battery packs used by current hybrids. Look carefuly at the front bumper, there is a Hybrid emblem on it. Is it real or is it photoshop?

According to Japanese sources, Nissan is working on a Hybrid power system for larger high performance cars and will introduce it on the new Fuga Sedan (our Infiniti M35/M45) which is due in the 2009 as a 2010 model. This hybrid system will be offered in the new Fuga one year after its launch as a 2011 model. Nissan is also planning to use this system for a hybrid version of the 370Z sports car a little later in 2011. This will make the 370Z the first high performance hybrid sports car on the market. Infinti is also looking to enter the hybrid sports car market with a car called the Essence which is currently a concept car."


Hybrid 370Z on the way? picture: 298602 - Top Speed

Would the performance suffer?

Would I buy it? No. More interested in the prospective Lotus Evora Hybrid or the...



Granted the Revenge is a wee bit more expensive that the Evora, but I like the direction the company is heading. (Where did they come up with Chevy Vega green?) Really looking more toward the independents than the large corporations for these vehicles.

No, sorry I don't care about trees that much. I don't care how politically incorrect that sounds. Even if it didn't have a negitive effect on performance, I bet it would drive the cost through the roof.

I thought the developement of these "battery packs" caused much more pollution than the non "hybrid" counterparts? And the disposal is a bitch too?

No thanks. I think the whole push for "green" when it comes to automobiles is :bs:

Yup heard this on top gear. A hybrid technically produces more pollution than a regular car due to this.

There would be extra weight, and a price increase, identical performance, and a updated interior information center.:rolleyes:

uhm would it cause more torque?

bingo. while the "green" battery hybrids cause less pollution in regards to exhaust fumes and usage of oil, the development and transportation of the batteries produces a larger carbon footprint. so really, the only upside to it is the US's dependency on foreign oil goes down. if you're purchasing a hybrid because you think you're going green, you are mistaken.

until engineers come up with a truly green car, i'll continue to burn the gas and have some fun :)

Totally true………..

God created the dinosaurs, and then killed them all just so we could drive cars. I have to respect that.

Makes you wonder what he's gonna do to us for the next set of beings...kill us so we can fuel star trek-like transporters?:confused:

I never heard Scotty say the transporter was running low on old white guy butt lard, but if that's my contribution to technology in future society, so be it. I guess I can have that extra doughnut for thier sake.

actually climate change and global warming has already been documented as true, and you should care because it will have lots of negative consequences to the planet and people. and keep in mind that internal comubstion engines are an old and outdated design from the middle of last century. it's also extremel inefficient, usually converting only 10-20% of fuel to kinetic energy. on the other hand, most "green" technologies in cars nowadays aren't really all that better than internal combustion engines. like others said, those battery packs are very highly toxic and loaded with extremely poisonous heavy metals. manufacturing and disposing of them are both dangerous to the environment too. also the electricity had to come from somewhere, usually by burning fossil fuels in power generation plants. gas-electric hybrids are a bit better than normal cars for the environment, but their fuel savings is not much and they tend to be underpowered and costly.

i believe the best way to protect the environment would be stop focusing on the engine and fix the rest of the car. Put cars on a diet by using lightweight composite materias for the body, remove excess and unnecessary features that an owner won't use, trim the interior, and use lightweight materials for suspension, wheels and chassis components, glass windows, body panels, etc.... Shaving off weight would help a lot with fuel mileage. if the average weight of vehicles on the street goes down from say 4000 to 3000 pounds, fuel consumption would automatically go down by 25%. also more effort should be put into harnessing braking energy. most kinetic energy in a car goes to heat the brakes and then goes into the air during braking. the car will have to burn more fuel to get back to speed. if there was a system that harnesses and stores the kinetic energy of a car slowing down, then this energy can be reused to accelerate the car up to speed again in lieu of having to burn more fuel. It would be something like the KERS system F1 experimented with last year. since the bulk of fuel consumption is used for accelerating a slow car, a kers system or equivalent if made efficient can lead to huge savings in gas mileage.

I know but blabla blabla

person A says GLOBAL WARMING
person B says globar warming is ********.

green power OMG hype

news gets out about person A making false reports about global warming

its a never ending story between the two parties.

We just had the worst winter since 30 years here. **** global warming

I got so tired of the cost of gas that I converted my big 4x6 truck to run on kittens; yeah, kittens, would you believe it? You have to actually kill and dry them out first, so my basement is full of them hanging from the rafters, but you'd be surprised how much energy is packaged in those little things. I usually pitchfork a load into the truck bed first thing in the morning to last all day. A good load stuffed into the boiler will last nearly an hour at a time, but it's totally worth it. Sure, they smoke like the dickens, and the smell of a burning tabby is just aweful, but nobody tailgates me anymore! The best part is that you get to spend your day driving around looking to run down more kittens; it's like the best video game, but for real! Awesome.
PS, global warming is BS; get real.

You can put HYBRIDS, in all the HUM DRUM passenger cars you want. But leave the sports cars alone. Besides. I hate the fact that they put all this pollution crap on citizens. Passenger cars make up 1/1000 of the problem. The vehicles that are the super-pollutants are jet planes and commercial trucks (18wheelers etc). You ever see how much black sut flys out of trucks?
So many cars and sports cars are so close to zero emisssions its ridiculous. For some reason though. When it comes to government making mandates on companies for trucks to go green and make an alternative to the jet engine. There's no news there huh. Capitalism at its best. Let's talk green with a consumer based initiative, not a corporate one.
Our govt doesn't care about pollution. It only cares about the potential revenue green conversions would generate if the consumer base was forced to convert there homes and vehicles to green vehicles. The only green they care about are the dollars attached to the problem.
We are all gonna die in some way, some how. If we don't get killed as civilians, we die as soldiers. If natural disasters don't kill us. A terrorist attack or some awful tragedy will. So F&$k it. Give me a sports car and let's ride till we die. :)

how do you know global warming is bs? I assume you head your own laboratory and did your own studies and computer analysis :rolleyes:

on the other hand, the above poster is correct. too much focus is on passenger cars. meanwhile, commercial trucks, trains, ships, and airplanes contribute a big chunk of pollution and greenhouse gases but no one is doing anything to make them any greener or reduce their carbon footprint. and sports cars and supercars form such a small niche that their carbon footprint is negligible. it has become all about PR stunt and propaganda for car companies to brag about how much "green" technology they can show off in the autoshows.

How do you know global warming isn't BS?

oh i don't know


































science

:happydance:

YouTube - Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science

We as passenger car drivers don't have a lobby in congress to represent us. None of us are shelling out money to representatives to draw their emphasis on going green elsewhere like planes, trucks, factories etc.

The only way that Cars are going to become more environmentally friendly is if it warranted by better performance. Better performance that is developed by car manufacturers for High end sports cars and race cars. Thats where all the best technology for cars from. Disc brakes were originally developed for racing because they didn't fade the way drum brakes did. Look now. they are practically standard. even run of the mill cars have disc brakes on the front two wheels which do most of the stopping. There is a trickle down effect of all car technology and the next best thing always comes from the top, not the bottom. You're not going to see sports cars being improved by taking aspects of shitty slow hybrids that look like rodents. You're going to see run of the mill cars being improved by advances in technology developed by high end car manufacturers.


In short. Until environmentally cars perform BETTER in a performance aspect, their environmental benefits won't become widespread enough to actually improve the environment. when the technology behind cars like the tesla roadster becomes cheap enough and practical enough to trickle down to a car like a camry.... thats when we'll see cars become efficient.

Sorry for the rant

This car is fully electric

YouTube - American Muscle VS Electric Drag Race White Zombie

Airplanes can still use leaded gas. :insert epic fail:

Al Gore! is that you?

Yes and some months ago news came out about SCIENCE lying about global warming :ugh2:

Ahhhh science...TEN MYTHS of Global Warming - Global Warming Hysteria ;)

Wait-any person who says that "science has proven" something is 99% of the time lying, especially over something as politically touchy as climate change.

Doesn't anyone remember back in the '70s? Back then, it was global cooling (we were gonna go into a new ice age if we didn't stop using fossil fuels). Then in the 1980s and 1990s,it jumped to "global warming" as its proponents suddenly realized that the climate was not validating their theories. Now, as those same proponents once again realize that their theories are being invalidated by time, the term jumps to "climate change". That way, if it gets warmer, they're right! If it gets cooler, they're still right! ...fail.

Guys i've worked in the climate change team at a professional services firm before. The amount of money they make out of it has got me questioning the validity. They make no attempt to actually reduce the CO2 outputs but try and make money from it.

Anyway, IF climate change is human induced the solution is quite simple to be honest. if the 4-5 major countries, all move to nuclear power generation, and i'm talking 100% nuclear, problem solved. Car emissions make up such a small part of the overall emissions it's not funny. But it's easier for the politians to make us consumers feel guilty.

Anyway, i find it far more likely that the climate change is due to the sun, i mean this massive ball of fire has been keeping the solar system going for a very long time... like freakin long time... it's our sole source of energy... and it doesn't burn evenly... it bursts, gurgles and has eruptions... I think we're just going through a bad patch with it... or maybe it's the good patch...? who knows.

I think this thread has gotten a TAD political.

I think far too much emphasis is being placed on passenger cars in the debate over emissions etc, and the byproduct is all these mutant cars on the road. speaking of nuclear power. its almost like there was a nuclear meltdown and half the new cars coming out are mutants. i mean, we have Hybrid suvs, which basically get the same fuel efficiency as a large sedan. by a large sedan, save the battery waste. If you have a hybrid SUV you probably aren't concerned with hauling anything. then we have all these little turdmobiles that try so hard to look futuristic that they just look ugly.

back to the topic.... i think that the day that a hybrid is better performing than its internal combustion counterpart is when hybrids are ready to enter the sports car market.

i sure trust my information to be unbiased on globalwarminghysteria dot com

I'm not claiming to say that humans are the cause for global warming or that we (can/will) have any impact at all -- but multiple reputable scientific communities have come out with numbers showing a rise in global temperatures that is abnormal based on what we know at this time.

Does this mean they are right? No. That's the nature of science -- it changes and is fully allowed to be wrong. Science isn't truth, it's trying to find the truth.

Likewise, saying something like "global warming is bs" or anything along those lines isn't scientific at all. It's just making a blanket assumption.

I personally think that the warming of our atmosphere is natural and that we have very little if any impact on it. I also think the mad rush of green energy is mostly wasted -- though I welcome the advancement it brings to society.

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• Oil
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• Politics
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Car vs. Car!

Ooh, and anything about Mustangs!

Good one (rep point)! :tup:

by the way, which oil should i use in my car, nissan ester or amsoil :D

First, please tell me what Nissan's Voodoo Oil is: full synthetic, blend, or dino?

I never said it was bs...I just asked how you know it is not bs...and you replied science...which according to your philosophy makes absolutely no sense...there are scientists "proving" both sides...So we will never know really

sorry that was my last comment lol

For the most part, I was being silly. Read my post imagining that the emoticon in my sig is my face. :p

:bowrofl: :icon17: Agreed!

I'm closing this one since this one went off topic.