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Rockstarr 02-14-2010 11:00 PM

When turning tires makin noise!?
 
Ok first of all stock touring + sport package 370z. when turning really hard to the right and maybe left and moving foward not in reverse im getting a rubbing sound but not against the car its between the tire and the pavement like the potenzas are twisting/rubbing when you turn really sharp. lol does that make any sense? anyways help me out if there are anyideas or this is normal.. umm and the car has 1500 miles on it also. thanks guys

-Dave.

antman22 02-14-2010 11:11 PM

this has been covered in other threads (run a search before posting a topic, hehe). from what i've read i've concluded that its a combo of the cold tires and the vlsd. i've only experienced it after the z's been parked in the cold for awhile. on days warmer than 40*, i never hear it.

its normal, don't worry about it.

Trips 02-14-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstarr (Post 401818)
Ok first of all stock touring + sport package 370z. when turning really hard to the right and maybe left and moving foward not in reverse im getting a rubbing sound but not against the car its between the tire and the pavement like the potenzas are twisting/rubbing when you turn really sharp. lol does that make any sense? anyways help me out if there are anyideas or this is normal.. umm and the car has 1500 miles on it also. thanks guys

-Dave.

Take it to your local dealer, and find out if it's anything you need to be concerned about, All you're going to get here are guess's of what it might be.
Return with an update.

TreyUT 02-15-2010 01:52 AM

Mine does it too. I just thought it was normal considering how low the z sits and the tires/suspension combo. Let us know Dave!?

Rockstarr 02-15-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TreyUT (Post 401955)
Mine does it too. I just thought it was normal considering how low the z sits and the tires/suspension combo. Let us know Dave!?



Sure thing guys thanks

Modshack 02-15-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstarr (Post 401818)
im getting a rubbing sound but not against the car its between the tire and the pavement like the potenzas are twisting/rubbing when you turn really sharp.

That's exactly what is happening. It's a combination of the suspension geometry at full lock and the wide tires. It is perfectly normal.

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 401873)
Take it to your local dealer.

I really wouldn't bother. They're gonna tell you it's perfectly normal (which it is)

z370z 02-15-2010 11:44 AM

Guys, does it happen only when it's cold out? There have been plenty of threads about this before....

It's the tires being put at an severly awkward angle while still trying to grip the pavement beneath them. These tires are ment to grip the road no matter what but in cold temperatures the rubber cab not preform the way they are built to.

I live in Canada and when the temperatures dropped before storing my car for the winter mine would do the same every morning turning out of my driveway.... Nothing to be worried about!

z370z 02-15-2010 11:46 AM

^
damn modshak you beat me to it!

Modshack 02-15-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by z370z (Post 402356)
^
damn modshak you beat me to it!

:tup:

WhiskeyHotel 02-15-2010 12:25 PM

I never, ever "tire" of answering this question. ;)

ChrisSlicks 02-15-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyHotel (Post 402418)
I never, ever "tire" of answering this question. ;)

Yeah, you're wheel funny. :p

Modshack 02-15-2010 01:50 PM

A subject where many fear to tread....:tup:

m4a1mustang 02-15-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 402533)
A subject where many fear to tread....:tup:

Oh man :icon18:

wheee! 02-15-2010 02:51 PM

:roflpuke2: You all belong in a rubber room..

Pushing_Tin 02-15-2010 03:21 PM

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ight-turn.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ning-hard.html

Mjohn 02-14-2011 01:24 PM

Dealer tried to repair.
 
Hey I took mine to the selling dealer and they replaced the differenial.

this did not help at all.

The dealer is now working with the teck support group to figue out the real problem.

Wrenise 02-14-2011 01:31 PM

The real problem is cold tires. I had this happen in my Chevy Malibu. Since its German Law to use S+M rated tires in the winter, when they put the S+M tires on, the noise went away. Your tires are not designed for freezinf temp on the road surface, your basicly slidding on the tires and the car is compensating with the vlsd.

After being here, its never a bad idea to get yourself a set of Snow Tires for the winter. I was extremly amazed how they improved my traction after putting them on. I hope the US will follow most countries that get snow and make this a law. It could save you lots of money in the long run.

ChrisSlicks 02-14-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mjohn (Post 940798)
Hey I took mine to the selling dealer and they replaced the differenial.

this did not help at all.

The dealer is now working with the teck support group to figue out the real problem.

The real solution to the problem is there is no real problem. If you use winter or all season tires in the winter the problem with be eliminated.

ChrisSlicks 02-14-2011 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrenise (Post 940814)
The real problem is cold tires. I had this happen in my Chevy Malibu. Since its German Law to use S+M rated tires in the winter, when they put the S+M tires on, the noise went away. Your tires are not designed for freezinf temp on the road surface, your basicly slidding on the tires and the car is compensating with the vlsd.

After being here, its never a bad idea to get yourself a set of Snow Tires for the winter. I was extremly amazed how they improved my traction after putting them on. I hope the US will follow most countries that get snow and make this a law. It could save you lots of money in the long run.

I agree, it should be law here for the snow states. Only provinces of Canada have that law. Oh and we call them M+S tires, to avoid the confusion that S+M might carry :icon17:

rj45 02-14-2011 04:51 PM

IMO, all Z's (except maybe the NISMO) should come standard with high performance all-season tires. The performance difference up to 7/10 street driving is negligible, yet the all-seasons perform much better during the cold months and last longer, too.

My old S2000 on the OE summer tires was near dangerous when driving in cold weather, a switch to hp-all-seasons made it a great all-season daily driver (except for heavy snow, of course). Most affordable sports cars are compromise vehicles anyway, why deliver the car with summer only tires that limit its cold weather performance and wear out more quickly? For bragging rights? It's a waste.

VCuomo 02-14-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by z370z (Post 402352)
Guys, does it happen only when it's cold out? ...

No, happens on my Z at any temperature.

sonic370 02-14-2011 08:13 PM

it happens whenever it won'ts to. hot or cold. at slow turns forwards or backing up. "it's normal" first thing a nissan tech is taught to say at school :ughdance:

ImportConvert 02-14-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstarr (Post 401818)
Ok first of all stock touring + sport package 370z. when turning really hard to the right and maybe left and moving foward not in reverse im getting a rubbing sound but not against the car its between the tire and the pavement like the potenzas are twisting/rubbing when you turn really sharp. lol does that make any sense? anyways help me out if there are anyideas or this is normal.. umm and the car has 1500 miles on it also. thanks guys

-Dave.

100% normal for a sports car.

The outside of the tire is turning faster than the inside of the tire during a tight corner at low speed so the outside of the tire ends up sliding (usually grip/slide, grip/slide, which leads to a "scrubbing" sound) instead of rolling.

370Z Purist 02-14-2011 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeyHotel (Post 402418)
I never, ever "tire" of answering this question. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 402528)
Yeah, you're wheel funny. :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 402533)
A subject where many fear to tread....:tup:

I didn't know we had so many people who were skilled with puns.

EazyD 02-15-2011 09:28 AM

My tires don't do this after my tires warm up from driving. They will do this only when they are cold [for me]. I actually had to get out of my car and make sure I didn't have a flat the first time it happened.


Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 941487)
it happens whenever it won'ts to.

I can actually hear the southern drawl in your voice :D

Mjohn 02-15-2011 11:51 AM

Nissan
 
Why don't you all contact Nissan direct???? For a true Factory Answer.

This is problem that needs to be FIXED

ChrisSlicks 02-15-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mjohn (Post 942210)
Why don't you all contact Nissan direct???? For a true Factory Answer.

This is problem that needs to be FIXED

If you can get them to put all-season tires on your car under warranty for free - go for it. The rest of us know what the problem is and don't care.

gpolak 02-15-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 941515)
100% normal for a sports car.

The outside of the tire is turning faster than the inside of the tire during a tight corner at low speed so the outside of the tire ends up sliding (usually grip/slide, grip/slide, which leads to a "scrubbing" sound) instead of rolling.


Sliding of the tire would happen if the tire DID NOT turn at different speeds - this is the problem that a differential (or independent front tires in RWD car) solves.


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