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chendaxian888 08-10-2023 03:51 PM

my car is done but still need a month to pay it
 
I have a question
Is Z1 just copying every design of the Z on market? ******* crazy monopoly?
I am being much normaler after back Dallas and driving a CVT honda everyday

chendaxian888 08-10-2023 03:54 PM

I got all FI fuel system, 2 defi gauge, a catch can, Seb freestyled everything. the bill is 22223.6.

chendaxian888 08-10-2023 03:55 PM

just paid 10000 and the rest soon

chendaxian888 08-10-2023 03:57 PM

also put the FI 2.5 exhaust on, still cant trust M7 japan cat whatever back at the last moment

Rusty 08-10-2023 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chendaxian888 (Post 4044174)
I have a question
Is Z1 just copying every design of the Z on market? ******* crazy monopoly?
I am being much normaler after back Dallas and driving a CVT honda everyday

Yep....Z1 is copying everyone else's products. :shakes head:

SeeThruHead 08-10-2023 07:31 PM

their R&D goes into making already existing ideas significantly cheaper. Their "innovation" imo is entirely in lowering the price, and it's a good thing. It's not like they are forcing anyone to buy their products... They get too much hate imo.

ZoomZ 08-11-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 4044182)
their R&D goes into making already existing ideas significantly cheaper. Their "innovation" imo is entirely in lowering the price, and it's a good thing. It's not like they are forcing anyone to buy their products... They get too much hate imo.

How is this significantly cheaper? its more! I know it's a few bucks difference, but it throws your theory out the window. :roflpuke2:

https://www.soulfunction.com/collect...nt=37389026766


https://www.z1motorsports.com/chassi...5cbe07d4476400

Chuck33079 08-11-2023 12:21 PM

Who do I need to talk to in order to put $20 on "He totals the car before he pays off the credit card bill?"

Spooler 08-11-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 4044205)
Who do I need to talk to in order to put $20 on "He totals the car before he pays off the credit card bill?"

I would not take that beat at all. LOL

Spartan 1771 08-11-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ (Post 4044204)
How is this significantly cheaper? its more! I know it's a few bucks difference, but it throws your theory out the window. :roflpuke2:

https://www.soulfunction.com/collect...nt=37389026766


https://www.z1motorsports.com/chassi...5cbe07d4476400

The design is different between the two. Its not an exact match. Is the Z1 more ridged or lighter? Is it "better" in some way? Also, the original price of the Soul Function is $276. The sale price is $155, but it isn't in stock. When it comes back in to stock I'm curious to see what the price will be. In general these days, things that went out of stock awhile back are coming back at a higher price.

Just my $0.02. I could be completely wrong though.

SeeThruHead 08-11-2023 04:41 PM

well their tie bar is is 26% cheaper.

let's call their major contribution to be selling a product you can actually buy

chendaxian888 08-11-2023 05:40 PM

Z1 got more money, higer tech and higer development, they gonna monopoly the market and rule the price. but I still dont trust them, like CJM has better fuel system, SPL has better suspension and FI has the best turbo, I dont know

chendaxian888 08-11-2023 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 4044205)
Who do I need to talk to in order to put $20 on "He totals the car before he pays off the credit card bill?"

your chinese daddy

chendaxian888 08-11-2023 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4044207)
I would not take that beat at all. LOL

I need a manuel car to turbo, TT with a shitty auto is a joke

Ventruck 08-11-2023 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chendaxian888 (Post 4044220)
I need a manuel car to turbo, TT with a shitty auto is a joke

Yeah man. If only there was a way to stop all this spending on the auto.

ZoomZ 08-12-2023 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 4044208)
The design is different between the two. Its not an exact match. Is the Z1 more ridged or lighter? Is it "better" in some way? Also, the original price of the Soul Function is $276. The sale price is $155, but it isn't in stock. When it comes back in to stock I'm curious to see what the price will be. In general these days, things that went out of stock awhile back are coming back at a higher price.

Just my $0.02. I could be completely wrong though.

It was just an example. The rest is semantics. In the end, the products purpose is the same.

SF has been around a long time. Z1 picked up on a popular product and made their own modification/tweaks to make it "theirs".

Without proper research to see availability at other dealer and calling SF for proper pricing and availability, it's hard to say whats what. It's probably safe to assume they will be very close.

In the end, Z1 copied an existing product. Can they make it cheaper? probably. Is the other guy just overpriced? Maybe.

This is just an example of a product out there and maybe Z1 developed other things in house before anyone else.

Their CAI is an example of "how do I make it different than the others" Z1 solution is to convince the buyer that they don't need to cut any frame but just squeeze the sillicon elbow through a tight hole?

I'm sure it works and you wont notice a thing, but to me, thats not R&D that sets them significantly apart form the others.

No hate on for Z1, but I refuse to believe they are making an exceptional product or have spent countless hours developing it.

2011 Nismo#91 08-14-2023 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 4044182)
their R&D goes into making already existing ideas significantly cheaper. Their "innovation" imo is entirely in lowering the price, and it's a good thing. It's not like they are forcing anyone to buy their products... They get too much hate imo.

It's the Home Depot vs local Hardware store.

chendaxian888 08-14-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 4044328)
It's the Home Depot vs local Hardware store.

and Z1 trying to be the Snap-On of ZG?


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