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1.Today (and so far), I checked all connections (well believe I did) 2. Removed cluster to inspect if anything seemed odd, all good. 3. Replaced switch with brand new one 4. Checked clutch switch under pedal (my cruise works fine) 5. System reboot 6. Replaced fuses I’ll attempt to check power going to switch, I’m little confused how to do, but will figure out |
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Hope this helps. Edit: I see OP bought a new switch so my thoughts may be null :/ hope the dealer figures it out. |
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I'm just going to pick up my Z, they can't figure out the issue, I'm sure it's sitting on the sidelines anyhow. |
Dealer couldn’t fix issue
The dealer couldn’t fix, they say it’s the switch, the switch is brand new. Plus now my hvac goes from cold to blistering hot in one click. So upon reassembly, they didn’t plug something back in. Now I have to drive all the way back again. Plus my shift knob wasn’t screwed on, and the leather is damaged, and my CD is gone from my head unit.
At this point I’m angry, very sloppy service! WTF! This is why many despise the dealers!! |
Dude, that's awful. Idiots. Keep at er.
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That's fvcked up bro. In regards to HVAC. There is a temp sensor under driver dash. If unplugged it ***** up HVAC like you've saying. Its behind the little oval with a tiger stripe grate
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Honestly just run searches on here. Find the answers. Avoid the stealership. You really want some zit-faced millenial trisexual trying to fix your ride with a flathead screwdriver and a cannabis-infused vape pen?
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They stepped up to the plate, and had the scratches fixed, ordered me a new factory shift knob, a free loaner for the day, and didn’t charge me for the unsure diagnosis. I didn’t want to return for the hvac, I pulled the panel and reconnected myself, thanks to forum for that info. I’ll take the CD as a loss. The tech is now saying the S-Mode switch is faulty, it’s brand new though, what are the chances? Not even sure he believes this. |
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Why didn't they just replace it? |
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Have you tried activating S mode with the switch detached from the shift bezel? I'm curious if my solution would work for you. If it works, I'm happy to pull out the bezel and snap a few pics of my washer spacer mod. |
That would be truly amazing if it turns out to be a washer.
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Did you ever attempt the neutral position relearn?
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It’s currently at another Nissan dealer, they confirmed it’s not the switch, they believe it’s in wiring. After 1 day, they also haven’t figured out. |
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I would’ve tried your advice, but don’t know the process. |
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Such a mystery! Thanks |
Problem is bad cluster
Well, dealer says it’s the cluster. It’s a Canadian vehicle. Was the cluster damaged upon the conversion from KM to Miles somehow?
Of course, Nissan won’t cover it, or even supply the U.S. dealer with the Canadian part number. They won’t allow a U.S. or Canadian cluster to be installed, WTF! The dealer isn’t recommending I install a U.S. cluster, they believe it will be an electrical issue. Does anyone have insight regarding this? Honestly, I’m not sure I agree with the assessment, have no idea though, I do like this service department. I’m only out $160 for diagnosis, if I’m going with a new cluster, it’s an easy diy, but would need the correct miles programmed. I just want Rev matching working, probably won’t use very much, but want my car functioning properly. Thanks for help! Update Don’t believe the cluster in my Z is the original one. It appears to be a U.S. cluster, believe it was swapped in. MPH are in large white numbers, not KM/H. Plus, there’s an old inventory sticker attached to it, probably from a recycled yard. My car is only 3 years old, shouldn’t have an old faded sticker anywhere. There’s no signs of this being any sort of salvaged car, body and interior are flawless, no signs of bodywork. Only feature not working is the Rev Matching. I’ve already road tripped it, drives perfectly! They probably swapped with U.S. cluster after taking in inventory. So maybe it’s the cluster after all? |
I was always insisting on wiring issue. Not sure if they actually dug into it per the FSM I posted for you.
Its a switch! Power, ground and signal to ecm. If cluster is bad, it's not the actual cause. Its just not providing one of those 3 things. In other words, shouldn't matter if Canadian or US cluster. Its just dial markings. Everything else is just signal. Does ECM care how fast you going...YES. Does it care if you are doing KMH or MPH? Don't know, but it's just a conversion so both the same really. |
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i can't think of any reason they would use different canbus ids across regions. |
If the N is flashing it then it probably just needs a neutral position relearn and you can definitely do that by yourself, no need to give it to some stupid techs at the stealerships.
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"SYSTEM DESCRIPTION Refer to Owner's Manual for SynchroRev Match mode (S-MODE) operating instructions. SynchroRev Match mode (S-MODE) controls engine speed at a suitable level from the present to the next gear position. This control is switched by S-MODE switch (Refer to EC-531, " Description"). When clutch pedal is depressed and shift lever is shifted while S-MODE is being operated, gear position signal is sent to ECM. ECM calculates target engine speed by gear position signal and vehicle speed signal, and then controls throttle opening angle and ignition timing. When downshift is performed, even if accelerator pedal is not depressed, ECM automatically controls throttle opening angle and increases engine speed. When upshift is performed, ECM controls engine speed so that it does not drop lower than the necessary level that is required after upshifting. Engine speed is controlled according to shifting operation above and driver can perform shifting operation quickly, smoothly, and without shifting shock. When S-MODE malfunction is detected, S-MODE warning on information display illuminates and S-MODE is automatically cancelled. At this time, S-MODE indicator turns OFF." |
The signal from combination meter vehicle speed to ECM is via CAN BUS and subsequently, s-mode shift position indicator to combination meter is also CAN BUS.
If there is a short on the CAN BUS, you will have other failures. You do not show any of that. (ie: Tachometer not working or shift position indicator blank) NOt to say the cluster ( Combination meter) cannot be faulty. I just read the very first post where you say you got a $1500 discount in lieu for the meter replacement. Sounds like you got the wrecker special, full of water and probably internal corrosion or bent pins etc. You also say you have a sport model. I think someone stole your cluster and replaced with non-sport or one without rev matching pin-outs. They didn't even bother to check the markings for the country. I'm guessing this last dealer may have done the proper T/S to determine your wires are ok. Hence the diagnosis of bad Combo meter. But what puzzles me is, this dealer should have realized what pin-outs are on the back of combo meter that supports the Harness in your car. |
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and the trans does not send gear position can messages iirc seems like: gear position works wheel speed works if you have a flashing n when you press the button then the switch works but sounds like you have no flashing N the switch is new (possible it came broken, don't rule that out) or the switches wiring is messed up. Time to get out a multimeter. and test those wires. |
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Here’s the official diagnosis (below). I also discovered “Useable Auto Parts” in Canada. They specialize in recycled Nissan and Infinity parts, kinda lucked out there. I’m just going to purchase the appropriate cluster, they have a low miles one for $250. If the appropriate cluster is indeed the issue, no major issue, I’m only out a few bucks. Plus, I actually would like a KM/H cluster. I’ll keep everyone updated, once my cluster gets here, will probably be a week or two going through customs. Extremely grateful for all the help from everyone!!! Thank you!!! OFFICIAL DIAGNOSIS Attachment 150955 |
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and the trans does not send gear position can messages iirc seems like: gear position works wheel speed works if you have a flashing n when you press the button then the switch works but sounds like you have no flashing N the switch is new (possible it came broken, don't rule that out) or the switches wiring is messed up. Here’s the diagnosis. Thanks a ton!! Attachment 150956 |
I hope it gets it fixed for you. It must be very frustrating.
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Not surprising that Nissan would leave gear Position indicator out for non-sport. I'm a late model Nismo and not familiar with internal features of other models. I would be very interested to see if the "window" for gear position is still installed, just not lit up. Oh Nissan. :confused::rolleyes: |
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Yes, dealers are hit and miss, the care of your car in their property is never #1 priority. |
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