End of an Era - There is no 2021 370Z
 

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...21-nissan-370z

Glad I got my Passion Red 2020 when I did; feels great to have the final model year.

should have waited for the new 400z coming out in '22

Don't be silly, gas only cars are going to be banned. There is no more endless supply of gas, M/T sports cars; time to hoard for my expected lifetime. I will be buying a 400Z and KEEPING my 370Z.

The guy who wrote that article is an idiot. :shakes head: "While 370Zs ride on 20-inch wheels, the Proto rides on 19-inch wheels." He didn't do his research. :shakes head:

With the way Nissan is struggling financially and trying to re-invent itself, I will believe it when I see it. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the 400Z never sees the light of day. Remember the Nissan IDX proto (510) a few years back? It was paraded all over the world as a sure thing to be released very soon. Never happened.

https://japanesenostalgiccar.com/wor...Concept-07.jpg

It's just a collection of old clickbait jumbled together:shakes head: It even links to the "test mule at the ring" :roflpuke2::gtfo2:

huge difference between building a completely new car and a mild refresh of an old chassis with parts already on the shelf. It's more Z34.5 than Z35

You both have points... but Nissan has fvcked up the most basic of things. Gives Cyber_370 credibility.

:iagree: very true. I even said somewhere in the Z35 thread that the Z was more likely to get shelved for a few years before getting a new one if we even see one.

But even with the turmoil going on I think this refresh is cheap enough to make it to production. :twocents:

If the put out the z35 in 2017, the idx in 2016. Kept the juke 180hp inside that tiny kicks, and used DCT like hyundai. Nissan would have sold more of everything. They wouldn't be in this situation.

:facepalm:

funny thing is, I went to the nissan web site and they only have 2020 Z's
the GTR has a 2021 model, but not the Z....
interesting :tiphat:

Why is this surprising? :confused:


And what a shitty article. Completely worthless :icon17:

You may be right but, Nissan would've probably built the IDX alongside the 370z in the same plant because of the front-engine rear drive configuration. It wasn't that much of a stretch as far as setup and tooling costs were concerned since it was probably going to be based on a shortened or slightly modified 370Z chassis. Furthermore, people absolutely went crazy for the IDX proto and it was even featured on Jay Leno's Garage. This was supposed to be the "New" Nissan and an indication of great things to come. Well, we all know what the cancellation of that car did to Nissan's image.

Per recent reports, the main reason they cancelled the project was because Nissan did not think there was any money to be made with another low-cost front-engine, rear drive sports car in a segment dominated by the Toyota 86 and Miata. Sound familiar? What will the bean counters decide with the Z this time. There is even more competition including the Mustang, Camaro, Supra to name a few. Don't get me wrong, I hope they build it but we will see what happens.

Don't worry, there is enough in the oil sands to last several generations.

Lol, probably the biggest attempt I have seen in taking something out of context.

No more gas Corvette after 2035:

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...ht-duty-trucks

Yes there is! Unfortunately, tree huggers will do whatever it takes to keep it in the ground.

The truth is that there aren’t enough natural resources in the world to manufacture the number of batteries required to replace even half of today’s ICE cars. Unless we give up our cars for bicycles :rofl2:, ICE cars will still be around for a long time, using extremely efficient and clean burning engines.

I'm not worried about oil, they'll never stop growing corn and ethanol isn't hard to make :driving:

One draught wipes it out. :icon14: Remember your history of the "Dust Bowl"?

Glad I made you laugh.

The gasoline only Z will be discontinued around 2025! Z35 will then become a hybrid until the end of its lifecycle in 2030 using the same hybrid power train to be introduced in the Infiniti Q50/Q60 in 2024-2025. If there is a Z36 after that, it will be an EV. (via Google translate):



Impact of Nissan's all-new car electrification policy !! Can Fairlady Z and GT-R survive !? Next model and whereabouts of survival
February 2, 2021 / News


All new cars launched by Nissan from the early 2030s will be electrified! What will happen to Nissan's next-generation sports models, the "GT-R" and "Fairlady Z," which represent Japan, and beyond?

On January 27th, Nissan announced a release on carbon neutrality. Among them, it is clear that "from the early 2030s, we will further actively promote the adoption of electrification technology by making all new models to be launched in the main markets of Japan, China, the United States, and Europe into electric vehicles."

As a result, the GT-R and Fairlady Z, which are sports models, will have to be electrified in the next generation in order to survive.

As fuel economy and noise regulations are tightened, the current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of the year, and the next Z will be hybridized. Below, Mr. Mitsuhiro Kunisawa explains.


The current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of the year.

Nissan has stated that it has set a carbon-neutral target for 2050 and that it will make all new models launched in major markets from the early 2030s electric vehicles.

In other words, it will clear both the 2050 carbon neutral that Prime Minister Suga announced in his statement of belief and the Tokyo Governor Koike's "stop selling pure gasoline in 2035." Appearance with both faces.

I would like to analyze the specific content. First of all, what is worrisome for car lovers is the trend of the GT-R and the next Fairlady Z, which has already announced its style.

Although it is a GT-R, it seems that it cannot clear "Phase 3" of the noise regulation that will come into effect from 2022. The criteria for Phase 3 are extremely strict, and the power unit must be "almost silent".

No, even if the noise from the power unit can be reduced, the regulation cannot be cleared by the tire running noise with high-performance tires. The current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of 2021.

By the way, it is strict because it is obligatory to clear noise regulations and even continuous production vehicles. If you are thinking of purchasing the GT-R, order it before the discontinuation is announced.

The next GT-R will be a pure EV !? Tesla now releases the Model S with over 1000 horsepower

The next GT-R will be reborn as an EV sports car like the Porsche Taycan and Tesla Model S (expected CG created by the best car)
When asked if there is a next-generation GT-R, answer "Yes!" Without any reason. There are many opinions within Nissan that "GT-R is necessary", and maybe it has already started development for commercial use.


Of course, I don't think it's a half-finished eco-friendly car like a hybrid or PHV. Even if such a power unit is released in 2025, it will only sell for 5 years.

Naturally it will be a pure electric car. High-performance cars can now be made even as electric cars. On the contrary, the electric car may be more suitable for GT-R.

The Tesla Model S has a minor change to increase the motor output to 1020 horsepower! Since the maximum speed is 320km / h, it surpasses the current GT-R and accelerates from 0 to 100km / h in 2.1 seconds!　

2.1 seconds is different from the story and dimension that GT-R is less than 3 seconds. It's faster than the acceleration of an F1 car. The new Tesla Roadster is 0-100km / h in 2 seconds. It is said that it will take less than 9 seconds with 0-400m acceleration.

Just as the current GT-R aimed for the fastest Nürburgring on the market, the new GT-R would be interesting if it aimed for a car faster than Tesla.

Nissan is also developing an all-solid-state battery that has more than three times the performance of current lithium-ion batteries. If realized, it is possible to have higher performance than Tesla. For electric vehicles, the only noise regulation is tires.

I managed to clear it, and I can afford the corporate average fuel consumption CAFE2030. It is an electrified vehicle certified by the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, and can continue until it is carbon-free in 2050.

New Fairlady Z from pure gasoline specifications to HV


How about the Fairlady Z, which is scheduled to be released in 2022? This car is a model that was considered to be sold in the United States, which had become a fuel economy regulation for Yuruyuru during President Trump's time.

That's why both the platform and the engine combine existing items. However, he became President Biden and changed his policy 180 degrees. We are about to become an environmentally friendly country.

Probably not thinking about selling for a long time from the beginning. At most 5 years. No, the Fairlady Z, which runs only on the engine for about 3 years at the shortest, has no model life.

In the second or third year, it will be upgraded to the same hybrid as the Skyline, and it will be sold until around 2030 when strict fuel efficiency regulations will start.

Nissan is solid with EV + e-POWER! The question is "whether you can make a fun car"

Announced carbon neutral goals for 2050. Announced the innovation of batteries including new e-POWER and all-solid-state batteries, the utilization of renewable energy and the development of recycling technology to achieve the goal.
It may be disappointing to read this far, but I don't think it will be dark tomorrow for Nissan. This is because Nissan is good at electrification technology. The 2030 CAFE, which has become a strict regulation value, can be sufficiently cleared with an electric vehicle + e-POWER.

At the time of the Tokyo Metropolitan Government regulation in 2035, it would be all electrified. No, is it an all-electric environment before 2030?

There is no problem with making all carbon-free cars in 2050 electric vehicles. I think that I announced the goal setting like the beginning of the sentence because I have already made a long-term plan such as.

　
The question is whether we can make a fun car. Considering only practicality, price competition will occur. However, if you can create a brand image, you can sell high value-added products.

Let's say you made a women's bag with similar materials and functions. 100,000 yen for famous European brands. A Japanese bag costs 20,000 yen at most. I think the same is true for electric vehicles.

If you are making popular products, you cannot beat China. I think it will be important to be able to create high value. If it can be realized, Nissan will prosper, and it will be tough if it comes to compete in price competition.

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/243426

lol wut?

Now.....what's going to happen with all of the ICE cars on the road now? Will dealers take them in on trade for a EV? How big of a hit are you willing to take on trade in? How long before stations stop selling gas and diesel?

Same thing that happens to them now when they bite the dust. They get put on display. You know, on cinder blocks in someone's front yard :icon17:

So it begins. Release date for new Z pushed back to at least 2023.

https://daxstreet.com/cars/1925/niss...-need-to-know/

I’ll say it again, nothing certain about a new Z release. Guys, hold on to your Z’s because when they’re gone, everyone is gonna want one!

Who didn't see that one coming? :rolleyes: Well, except for those whose hope springs eternal.

Thinking about starting a sportsbook that only takes bets on Nissan Z release dates ;)

I heard the same information regarding the actual release date of the Z35 it will not be until sometime in 2023. Don’t hold your breath and keep your Z’s it will be a while. I have been hoping that Nissan can produce a GTR that will be faster than the new Tesla model S. How really wants an electric car? Not me.

If the new GTR really ends up being electric, that will be the end of the GTR era. Oh man, can you imagine how much people will be willing to pay for a R35 GTR. It will be crazy!!!

An all electric GTR will be another cookie-cutter, electric razzle-dazzle iPhone on wheels. Not interested.