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viiv 08-06-2020 08:27 AM

Are these claims on the 370Z for real?
 
https://www.hotcars.com/15-dangerous...tay-away-from/

Never heard of an insufficient brake cooling flaw???

SouthArk370Z 08-06-2020 08:30 AM

Not a problem for a DD.
People who race often upgrade their rotors/pads and provide some extra cooling via ductwork.

Spartan 1771 08-06-2020 08:37 AM

I had the base brakes for years with no mods and they were just fine on the road. This is a ridiculous claim in my opinion.

This entire article is questionable.

Just more proof that real journalism is dead.

SouthArk370Z 08-06-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 3952773)
This entire article is beyond questionable.

Just more proof that real journalism is dead.

Yep. Looks like the author spent 15 minutes on Google and then wrote the article.

crazy4oldcars 08-06-2020 08:44 AM

You've been click-baited.
You'll put the car in limp-mode from overheating before the brakes give out....


Kirk B.

Rusty 08-06-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by crazy4oldcars (Post 3952777)
You've been click-baited.
You'll put the car in limp-mode from overheating before the brakes give out....


Kirk B.

Depends on the track and your driving style. :driving:

crazy4oldcars 08-06-2020 08:50 AM

Damn! Forgot to use my sarcasm font. Again...


Kirk B.

JARblue 08-06-2020 09:18 AM

The history behind this claim is from when Car and Driver went out on the track with stock pads and crashed the car due to brake failure. They gave a terrible review in 2008 I think it was. Morons.

You can't track the car in stock form. It needs some basic upgrades. But there are absolutely no issues with street driving or short bursts of spirited driving in stock form.

abm89 08-06-2020 10:00 AM

100X what rusty said. I have never had cooling issues with my brakes... and to be honest, i probably use the brakes too much on my laps anyway.

less braking = more laptime = less heat = more yeet


I will say, the type of pads you run will determine how severe your fade is.

God-Speed 08-06-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3952788)
The history behind this claim is from when Car and Driver went out on the track with stock pads and crashed the car due to brake failure. They gave a terrible review in 2008 I think it was. Morons.

You can't track the car in stock form. It needs some basic upgrades. But there are absolutely no issues with street driving or short bursts of spirited driving in stock form.

:iagree::iagree:

viiv 08-06-2020 01:40 PM

Thanks guys, I figured it was click bait and ridiculous. What about the low crash rating part?

JLarson 08-06-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by viiv (Post 3952864)
Thanks guys, I figured it was click bait and ridiculous. What about the low crash rating part?

I mean it's small and aluminum. Don't go toe to toe with an SUV or bridge abutment. :tiphat:

JARblue 08-06-2020 02:40 PM

There are no crash test ratings because none are required on vehicles with low manufacturing numbers such as the Z.

SG4247 08-06-2020 02:50 PM

Why is the Pinto even on this list?

When was the last time you even saw a Pinto? They crushed all those before half the People on this forum were even born. Production stopped 40 years ago!

Where is my 1963 VW Beetle that didnt even have seat belts? Hell it would only go 65 mph flat out, and slightly faster when you applied the worthless brakes.
Had a 6 volt battery, you couldn't even tell when the headlights were on.

This is baseless non-sense.

Spartan 1771 08-06-2020 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3952876)
Why is the Pinto even on this list?

When was the last time you even saw a Pinto? They crushed all those before half the People on this forum were even born. Production stopped 40 years ago!

Where is my 1963 VW Beetle that didnt even have seat belts? Hell it would only go 65 mph flat out, and slightly faster when you applied the worthless brakes.
Had a 6 volt battery, you couldn't even tell when the headlights were on.

This is baseless non-sense.

I had a buddy back in high school who had a 1988 mustang GT engine in his pinto.

JeffP-Z 08-07-2020 04:05 AM

My response to the author: What crack are you smoking, this is a piss poor article? Yes, we all know sub-compact cars stand little to no chance in a collision with a large SUV or truck. But your commentary on the sports cars is laughable. The Corvette has an amazin saftey record and is designed in a way that protects the driver in a collision causing the car to come apart around the driver. I have personally seen a Corvette be t-boned by a fully loaded dump truck going 55 miles per hour and struck the Corvette on the drivers side from front wheel past the drivers door. The driver walked away with a bruised leg, the car did its job. Regarding the 370z, the brakes are not much of an issue, even on the base model. Any car when driven spiritedly can have brakes overheat if you are unskilled, which means you shouldn't be doing that sort of thing in the first place. Additionally, beyond the base model, all other 370z's come with the upgraded Akebono big brake option which is on par with Stop Tech, Wilwood and Brembo brakes and outperform most basic braking systems and perform quite well under hard driving track conditions. I race a 370z and have yet to have any brake related issues under hard driving track conditions, drift racing, let alone street spirited driving. The other sports cars you mentioned can all be unsafe if you don't respect the car and drive it like an idiot, but that isn't the fault of the car, you can have the same thing happen in a Huyndai Elantra or a Toyota Prius. Please be more factual and less opinionated when publishing material as this is just another piece that belongs in the fake news category. Good try, but epic fail!

Red-Hat 08-07-2020 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by viiv (Post 3952770)

Wow, what a shite article. Absolutely no sources cited, no explanation for the comments given e.g.

Quote:

"In terms of structure and safety, the car barely makes the cut."
That is in relation to the BRZ, a car I have personally seen rolled multiple times on a track and watched the driver walk away from. OK, it was caged, but still, the outer roof/passenger cell structure was intact and the car held up great.

If you are going to make claims that cars are unsafe, I think some citations to scientific, mechanical and engineering evaluations are required.

Oh, and I almost missed this gem on the 370Z:

Quote:

"the car has poor crash test ratings"
No it doesn't, it literally can't have poor crash test ratings because the car has literally never been formally crash evaluated by any of the major NCAPS, not by the USA NHTSA, not by the Euro NCAP, and not by the Australian NCAP. Nada, zilch, nothing. As a low volume sportscar it has basically slipped through the need for a crash evaluation. Now it might crash like a wet paper bag, or it might crash like tank, but we literally can't say because there is no formal crash test evaluation.

POS VETT 08-07-2020 12:31 PM

Pretty much all mass-produced street cars will do the same thing for track duty. C5 Z06 and C6 Z06 may come with more aggressive brake pads and cooling ducts for all 4 and still the pads wouldn't withstand true track duty (road course, not autocross or drag).

SG4247 08-07-2020 04:01 PM

I saw a guy hit the concrete barrier at 130 mph head on in a new ZL1 Camaro.

Car flipped onto the roof, on top of the barrier and rolled 5-6 times. Horrific crash.

Every inch of this car was bent. Every air bag deployed, and the driver went home with a just a sore neck.

Incredible result if you ask me. Kudos to GM on thier safety engineering.

Tractionless 08-09-2020 07:33 AM

The entire article is a generalization and garbage. Saying a car is unsafe because of it's HP is nonsense. I had a 750hp vehicle that was a pure street car and drag raced, never put a scratch on it. Bad decisions (NOT mistakes) by people is the problem with high hp cars, guns, so on and so forth. Take responsibility for yourself, it's YOUR fault!

Zyonara91 08-09-2020 01:23 PM

Lol car and driver. . . If it was a Stang or Camaro they'd have some next excuse. Tracking a car with stock pads and rotors is a fools errand. Daily driving and a few hard stops here and there? Z can deal with it.

ramoszx12r 08-09-2020 10:33 PM

The article is crap,


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