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Vegitto-kun 07-08-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 613075)
Better brakes.

Better traction, due to LSD.

Wider tires.

Lower CD, dude to spoiler.

Synro rev match on downshift if MT (I believe this is always a feaure of the AT)

Definitely better! :tup:

that is pretty much it XD.

+ I think the 370 without the spoiler just looks...unfinished like they forgot to put one one and left a odd shape on the booth

AP - Chris_B 07-14-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 613075)
Better brakes.

Yes, but only for street use. Better pads and rotors will help, but the Akebono's are not serious performers compared to what else is available.

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 613075)
Better traction, due to LSD.

Same as above. Very aggressive driving or track use kills the viscous diff as it can't handle the heat, which has been true for most other cars with this type as well. Another diff option would be better.

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 613075)
Wider tires.

Important only if set on keeping the OE wheels. Otherwise, upgraded wheels/tires could be purchased in a different width.

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 613075)
Lower CD, due to spoiler.

Pressure recovery (reducing rear lift)? Yes. But lower CD? Doubtful. Even if yes, then not by very much.

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 613075)
Synro rev match on downshift if MT (I believe this is always a feaure of the AT)

If you like this, then great. If you can downshift just fine without it, then it is unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 613075)
Definitely better! :tup:

It depends on the perspective of the buyer. For some, yes. For me, no. I'd rather bargain down the strippy model and pour the saved cash into upgrades that have more to offer. I do respect other viewpoints on this as there is no one answer for all.

Chris

sonic370 07-14-2010 08:20 PM

Just wondering how many members really go to the track. And how many miles do you put in at the track and how many miles in regular driving??

So IMHO it came down to better looking 19in wheels,bigger and better brakes
in everyday traffic,front and rear spoilers,lsd oh and bigger tires. close your eyes and you can tell no difference in the ride quality. Oh and at resale that 3000.00 upgrade will come in handy.Not to mention it looks better.

Ok i'm off my soap box.

Mt Tam I am 07-15-2010 02:06 AM

To each his own, but I feel the sport package is well worth having. No hassles looking for your own better after market brakes and wheels alone may be worth the price of admission.

AndyZ 07-15-2010 08:43 AM

My reasons?
1) SRM-which was the most and main for me, i know how to but as a human i dont think i can ever do better then computer
2) rear spoiler-in my view i totaly did not liked base model
3) wheels-if you dont like it you can sell it for $1000
4) brakes-this is not the best but since i am not such a track guy its just big and good enough for my little bit of joy
5) LSD-i have heard these lsds are not that great on track, gets over heated and being nothing diffrent than open diff, well atleast better than nothing

$3000, why not?

mjch3n 07-15-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyZ (Post 625301)
My reasons?
1) SRM-which was the most and main for me
2) rear spoiler-in my view i totaly did not liked base model
3) wheels-if you dont like it you can sell it for $1000
4) brakes-this is not the best but since i am not such a track guy its just big and good enough for my little bit of joy

I agree, the brakes are good enough (especially with upgraded lines, fluid, and pads) for most people. The wheels are amazingly light (forged) for 19's stock, and they look pretty damn good (IMO) for a stock wheel offering.:tup:

drivin blind 07-15-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 360353)
i bought it because i liked the wheels/tires/bigger brakes and the rear spoiler.

so that's enough for me.

My STI has the Brembos. Wife said that her next car had to have them. Then she saw a 370Z with the sport package (mainly the spoilers) and one without. She wouldn't even consider one without the sport package after that. The syncro match was a suprise to her. (she loves it.) She sounds like Schumacher slowing down for our driveway! :driving:

LunaZ 07-15-2010 09:35 PM

For the guys who are saying this stuff isn't up to track duty... duh?
When you're building a track car, you know going in that you're going to be upgrading brakes, suspension bits, etc...

If you play fast on the street, the sport package is great.
I wanted the better looking, bigger brakes, 19" RAYS and a spoiler, but the SRM was what I was really after!

Trips 07-16-2010 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 626600)
For the guys who are saying this stuff isn't up to track duty... duh?
When you're building a track car, you know going in that you're going to be upgrading brakes, suspension bits, etc...

If you play fast on the street, the sport package is great.
I wanted the better looking, bigger brakes, 19" RAYS and a spoiler, but the SRM was what I was really after!

This is of not Condoning Any illegal Street Activity of Course?

LunaZ 07-16-2010 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 627080)
This is of not Condoning Any illegal Street Activity of Course?

Of course not!
65 mph is plenty fast and some states in the South actually allow 70 mph!!!
You need some good brakes when you're traveling those speeds! ;)

jmack 07-16-2010 09:28 AM

I think most Z owners buy the Z because it is a cool good looking reasonably priced sports car and not for its cornering and straight line speed and performance brakes. If you did, you probably will have suspended license after a year or so. I just like the looks of the wheels and aero package.

6MT 07-16-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jmack (Post 627397)
I think most Z owners buy the Z because it is a cool good looking reasonably priced sports car and not for its cornering and straight line speed and performance brakes. If you did, you probably will have suspended license after a year or so. I just like the looks of the wheels and aero package.

Huh?:shakes head:

I for one, bought the 370 for the performance. The looks sealed the deal. But to say people buy this car strictly on looks ignores most enthusiasts.

(And by the looks of what you're driving, you've probably never driven one.)

AndyZ 07-17-2010 06:28 AM

I did got license suspended on my hyundai well no ticket ever with sti and z
And im a huge fan of horse power

AndyZ 07-17-2010 06:32 AM

when i drive Sports cars like z i drive slow
But with any commute cars i always guns it to make it to certain speed because its not going anywhere even i redline the engine
And that why i didnt get a single ticket with sports cars(i think)

sonic370 07-17-2010 08:29 AM

Everyone's points are all very well taken. But if Nissan only offered a model
that could be bought only by those wanting to track it than there wouldn't
be an Z's to buy. Sorry imo the average guy who buys a z doesn't do it only
to take it to the track on the weekend. And i will be flamed for this but i would be willing to bet most don't by a z to put a bunch of mods on them.Maybe one or two tops. With audio being one of the most.

FuszNissan 07-17-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 629209)
Everyone's points are all very well taken. But if Nissan only offered a model
that could be bought only by those wanting to track it than there wouldn't
be an Z's to buy. Sorry imo the average guy who buys a z doesn't do it only
to take it to the track on the weekend. And i will be flamed for this but i would be willing to bet most don't by a z to put a bunch of mods on them.Maybe one or two tops. With audio being one of the most.

That's the beauty of it being an option. Before if you wanted this package it was called the track model. It was a base model with a sport package that cost about 37K. Nissan hit a home run with this package. If you want it buy the sports package, if you don't then get the model with out it. Either way they made it a choice and not a specific model that was over priced. Sorry for all that bought the 350 Track model, but it was over priced...IMO

sonic370 07-17-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 629225)
That's the beauty of it being an option. Before if you wanted this package it was called the track model. It was a base model with a sport package that cost about 37K. Nissan hit a home run with this package. If you want it buy the sports package, if you don't then get the model with out it. Either way they made it a choice and not a specific model that was over priced. Sorry for all that bought the 350 Track model, but it was over priced...IMO

Good point everyone has a choice.

cruzmisl 07-17-2010 11:30 AM

If you're buying and not leasing, down the road selling a car with sport package instead of without will be a lot easier.

cossie1600 07-17-2010 02:49 PM

Unless you are selling it privately, the dealer dont give a #$%^.

FuszNissan 07-17-2010 02:51 PM

I would pay more for sport package on a trade in

sonic370 07-17-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 627416)
Huh?:shakes head:

I for one, bought the 370 for the performance. The looks sealed the deal. But to say people buy this car strictly on looks ignores most enthusiasts.

(And by the looks of what you're driving, you've probably never driven one.)

:rofl2: better to have it and not need it,then to need it and not have.
if that makes sense!

jmack 07-18-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 627416)
Huh?:shakes head:

I for one, bought the 370 for the performance. The looks sealed the deal. But to say people buy this car strictly on looks ignores most enthusiasts.

(And by the looks of what you're driving, you've probably never driven one.)

Don't be so quick to judge because I have owned 3 Z's. A 260Z, 300Z and 350Z. My father has also owned a 240Z and 280Z and had a VW and later Datsun/Nissan dealership in McComb, MS. which is still in business.

Mt Tam I am 07-26-2010 10:25 AM

most Z owners
 
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Originally Posted by jmack (Post 627397)
I think most Z owners buy the Z because it is a cool good looking reasonably priced sports car and not for its cornering and straight line speed and performance brakes. If you did, you probably will have suspended license after a year or so. I just like the looks of the wheels and aero package.

I must not be like most Z owners in your estimation

The only reason I bought all my Z cars was for "its cornering and straight line speed" and ability to brake. I've driven one daily for thirty years. Looks are secondary, although never a hardship with a Z.
Nor have I had a ticket since 1986.

wh1te370z 07-26-2010 12:38 PM

I'm getting the sport package for the LSD and the rear spoiler (looks). i didnt care much about anything else. Brakes are nice to have, wheels look better but i really only wanted the LSD. Im the stupid kid in closed parking lots drifing around light poles and what not. leagaly of course :ughdance: haha
but like most of the guys on here say its your choice. if you want eveything in the sport package get it,if you dont, dont. just my .02.. yes i basicly payed 3k for lsd and the spoiler but it came with other things so it was worth it to me. again my .02 i also am buying the car for its performance in a straight line and its handling, not for show.. well a little bc it is a HOT CAR!! :excited:

jmack 07-27-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 644887)
I must not be like most Z owners in your estimation

The only reason I bought all my Z cars was for "its cornering and straight line speed" and ability to brake. I've driven one daily for thirty years. Looks are secondary, although never a hardship with a Z.
Nor have I had a ticket since 1986.

Hey if you have a place to take advantage of the speed, go for it. I realize there are different reasons for why we all buy the cars we buy. I'm sure I may be in the minority buying for looks. I would love to live in an area where I could take my Z on a track and have a little fun but I just can't here in South Mississippi.

Where I live you can't do jack without getting pulled over. I got pulled over 3 times the first year. Once for switching lanes without giving a damn signal on a 6 lane highway. Another time a highway patrolman pulled me over for speeding out of his jurisdiction and just lectured me then let me go.

My wife drives like a bat-out-of-hell in her Honda minivan and has never gotten pulled over. You are a marked man in a sports car where I live.

Nitex 07-27-2010 09:48 AM

My thoughts on the sport package are:

I loved the wheels at first.. but now i find them less appealing. The LSD is a joke. The brakes need new pads, rotors, and lines(ask car and driver). The aero is more of an aesthetic thing, but i like the hatch spoiler (so i bought it). In my own opinion, the only thing worth a damn on the sport package is the SRM. I made a point to learn how to heel and toe with my Z, but i do wish i had it just to show off new technology in manual tranys.

LunaZ 07-27-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 646478)
The brakes need new pads, rotors, and lines(ask car and driver)

Are you doing hot laps yourself or are you just blindly buying this gospel?
Yeah, certain parts of this car are not up to track duty, but that's an obvious given with most cars that start out designed for use on public roadways.
I personally have not exceeded the capabilities of the sport package brakes during my hooligan sessions. Take that FWIW.

Jeffblue 07-27-2010 10:01 AM

notice how we don't have sport package badges on our cars. Maybe thats because unlike most other cars with 'sport packages' ours actually has significantly more features and doesn't need some stupid S

6MT 07-27-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 646478)
My thoughts on the sport package are:

The LSD is a joke. The brakes need new pads, rotors, and lines(ask car and driver). In my own opinion, the only thing worth a damn on the sport package is the SRM.

A "joke"? Bad brakes? Hmmm.... Why did you buy one then? If you're sooo concerned, then a little more upscale should have been your choice. Have you got the extra $20-40k?

Didn't think so....

Jeffblue 07-27-2010 10:55 AM

yes, you'd wind up with a better car if you replaced the wheels, tires, calipers, rotors, pads, lines, and bought a better limited slip differential.= 10k+

or 3k for a sports package. i'm sold

LunaZ 07-27-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 646550)
A "joke"? Bad brakes? Hmmm.... Why did you buy one then? If you're sooo concerned, then a little more upscale should have been your choice. Have you got the extra $20-40k?

Didn't think so....

If I had an extra 300K I'd be driving a 599GTO and bitching on that forum about how there's no soundproofing in the damn thing.

waaaasabi 07-27-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 646573)
If I had an extra 300K I'd be driving a 599GTO and bitching on that forum about how there's no soundproofing in the damn thing.

Or you could buy ten 370Z's and create ten individual topics bitching about high oil temps, the brakes, the paint, the doors, etc. We could certainly use a few more of those threads :stirthepot:

6MT 07-27-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 646636)
Or you could buy ten 370Z's and create ten individual topics bitching about high oil temps, the brakes, the paint, the doors, etc. We could certainly use a few more of those threads :stirthepot:

:roflpuke2::owned:

npdabest 07-27-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegiea
tto-kun;613281
that is pretty much it XD.

+ I think the 370 without the spoiler just looks...unfinished like they forgot to put one one and left a odd shape on the booth

Exactly how I feel.

If you aren't very into aftermarket modifications, I'd always go for sports in my vehicles. On the road, you are probably never going to be racing...but you will feel much happier knowing your car looks defined.

Nitex 07-27-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 646487)
Are you doing hot laps yourself or are you just blindly buying this gospel?
Yeah, certain parts of this car are not up to track duty, but that's an obvious given with most cars that start out designed for use on public roadways.
I personally have not exceeded the capabilities of the sport package brakes during my hooligan sessions. Take that FWIW.

Gospel? lol C&D put a nismo in the wall at almost 100 mph.. This ISNT gospel.. The brakes need upgraded if you plan on tracking. And i track my cars and my motorcycles. Brakes are a very important part to safely participating on the track. If you want to risk your life so be it, otherwise i take it your not tracking the car. So you bought a Z to just daily drive, congrats.

I see your pushing your capabilities on public roadways, well in that case definitely do not upgrade brakes, being a hooligan with out them is safer no doubt.

Nitex 07-27-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 646550)
A "joke"? Bad brakes? Hmmm.... Why did you buy one then? If you're sooo concerned, then a little more upscale should have been your choice. Have you got the extra $20-40k?

Didn't think so....

why did i buy one? I did not purchase the sport package as i am purposefully upgrading all aforementioned parts.. :confused:

20-40k? what are you referencing, a more upscale car you say? What would make you think i cannot afford what i want. I bought what i wanted and i am upgrading it accordingly.

All these defensive sport package owners. Nice wheels btw, did they come with the sport package?

Didn't think so....

6MT 07-27-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 646670)
Nice wheels btw, did they come with the sport package?

Thank you!!:tup:

LunaZ 07-27-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 646660)
Gospel? lol C&D put a nismo in the wall at almost 100 mph.. This ISNT gospel.. The brakes need upgraded if you plan on tracking. And i track my cars and my motorcycles. Brakes are a very important part to safely participating on the track. If you want to risk your life so be it, otherwise i take it your not tracking the car. So you bought a Z to just daily drive, congrats.

If you're tracking the car yourself, then there's no need to take Car and Driver's word for it as you have your own experiences on which to base your opinions. Yes, we all know that certain parts of the car are not up to track duty, but the majority of people who buy this car are driving it on public roadways.
Please chime in on my thread here: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...heir-370z.html
I just get so tired of people quoting the damn magazines as if they were the bible. I get an e-mail a week from friends that have read the Road & Track article asking me if I've upgraded my brakes yet.

For the record, I have tracked most of my vehicles and motorcycles. I've held racing licenses and I was an instructor for a trackday club. I'm just in a different place in my life now with regards to my time obligations, and I'll have to resign myself to enjoying my Z on the road.
When I refer to hooliganism, I'm not suggesting flagrant disregard for the law, I'm implying that on an empty back road with some good twisties, I enjoy braking late and accelerating early when I can.
I live in Amish country. Minus the occasional buggy, it's a pretty safe environment for some spirited driving.

Have a good day! :tup:

Nitex 07-27-2010 02:36 PM

^ I agree that the sports package should suffice for those only interested in the occasional spirited runs or few and far between track days. On the other hand, I do feel that the buyer should be aware of the cars track deficiencies. And thankfully people that do plan on tracking the car have that chance to become aware either here on the forums, or from reviews.

I respect that your satisfied with the sport package, to each their own :tup:

Z-Guy 07-27-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by angelofrawr (Post 360057)
Forgive me if this is a fairly obvious question, but I'm not sure how to evaluate this. Is the sport package (on an auto or manual) create a noticeable driving difference in normal every day driving, relative to a base model? I mean, it -seems- like a good value, but I've driven several cars with "sport" packages that really haven't mad much of a difference, and I'm wondering if its worth the money if I'm never going to track the car.

Thanks!

Yes it makes a big difference. The appearence, ride, brakes etc. I wouldn't have purchased the Z any other way. I just sold my GT500, which I do miss, but the Z is a very nice car and looks and rides even better with the sport package,


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