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BlackCherryZ 01-12-2010 09:32 PM

Shifter Vibration/ Shift knob vibration
 
just got my 2010 Z sports coupe a few days ago and it has about 100 miles on it.......

hmmmmmmmmm i just realized the vibration on the shifter.....

i have a habit of holding on to the shift knob when i drive.... perhaps many of us have similar habits:driving:

BUT the vibration is something i am not used to, especially when i am accustomed to BMW 3 series...

is there any way/ method/ aftermarket parts to minimize the vibration?

i did read from this forum that the vibration is normal for Z, but just curious as to what i can do.....................

Forrest 01-13-2010 02:21 AM

i might be crazy but i like the vibration feel. Its almost soothing to me.

JakeZ34 01-13-2010 02:33 AM

it's not good to hold the shifter while your driving, unless your shifting of course, first it's dangerous because you need 2 hands to control the car, second it's bad for the gear box that you're constantly putting pressure on it. And to answer your questions, a couple of forum member has switched to short throw shifter kits and they claimed no shifter rattle.

armensti 01-13-2010 02:44 AM

i like the vibration and my right hand is always on the shifter. Left hand on the steering wheel right hand on the shifter at all times unless on the track or racing

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JakeZ34 01-13-2010 02:54 AM

^ epic fail picture lol. +1

armensti 01-13-2010 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeZ34 (Post 360045)
^ epic fail picture lol. +1

haha :happydance:

Red370 01-13-2010 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeZ34 (Post 360045)
^ epic fail picture lol. +1

No way!! Epic WIN! :roflpuke2: +2!

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IDZRVIT 01-13-2010 06:35 AM

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it's bad for the gear box that you're constantly putting pressure on it.
Will the gearbox fall out of the car over time?

MightyBobo 01-13-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 360101)
Will the gearbox fall out of the car over time?

No, but it could **** the syncro's up pretty good.

bullitt5897 01-13-2010 09:07 AM

I never had any ladies complain about my shifter knob vibrating:bowrofl:.... wait :icon14: ohhh snap your talking about your car ummmm yeah its kinda normal for a little vibration with these transmissions.

Not much you can do...

JakeZ34 01-13-2010 10:06 AM

^ LOL! This thread has derailed hahahahah...

BlackCherryZ 01-13-2010 11:11 AM

"And to answer your questions, a couple of forum member has switched to short throw shifter kits and they claimed no shifter rattle."


i read otherwise...that B&M short thow shifters cause more vibration, cause it does not have dampening device vs OEM with dampening device..... and something about weight ratio.....

IDZRVIT 01-13-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 360105)
No, but it could **** the syncro's up pretty good.

Oh no, not the ***** syncro's!!!!!!!!!!!! Will my front wheels fall off if I hold the steering wheel firmly with two hands? I better start using Amsoil so I can drive my car from here to eternity!

MightyBobo 01-13-2010 12:42 PM

I'm failing to see the sarcasm...or are you trying to imply that keeping your hand on the shifter during spirited driving is perfectly safe and that we're simply over obsessing? Because if that's the case...well hey...its your transmission, and if you want to be Mr. Joecool Onehander-ondawheel, well you have at it!

IDZRVIT 01-13-2010 03:21 PM

You won't screw up your syncros by holding the gearshift knob. Where do you get this from?

370Zsteve 01-13-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 360294)
Oh no, not the ***** syncro's!!!!!!!!!!!! Will my front wheels fall off if I hold the steering wheel firmly with two hands? I better start using Amsoil so I can drive my car from here to eternity!

+1 :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Matt 01-13-2010 03:40 PM

People drive with 2 hands while street driving? I gotta try that some time.

JakeZ34 01-13-2010 04:03 PM

Ask any professional drivers if they drive just with one hand on the wheel. But again it's my 2 cents that you shouldn't leave your hands on the shifter because your constantly applying pressure on it. And I don't know about the b&m. But there is another brand out there the A something that doesn't require filing for reverse gear. I read that there is no rattle with that model.

zfokaiz 01-13-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 360462)
People drive with 2 hands while street driving? I gotta try that some time.

I never knew that either. It almost sounds fun. :rofl2:

DirtyDave 01-13-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeZ34 (Post 360477)
Ask any professional drivers if they drive just with one hand on the wheel. But again it's my 2 cents that you shouldn't leave your hands on the shifter because your constantly applying pressure on it. And I don't know about the b&m. But there is another brand out there the A something that doesn't require filing for reverse gear. I read that there is no rattle with that model.

I think you're referring to the AMS. I have one and it does rattle on higher rpms just like the B&M.

And for what it's worth +1 for the guys saying it will screw up your synchros over time. I heard this from an instructor at a high performance driving school in regard to Corvettes.

MightyBobo 01-13-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 360446)
You won't screw up your syncros by holding the gearshift knob. Where do you get this from?

Do something for me. While you are giving your car gas, why don't you imagine you decide to take a hard corner and you're using your hand on the knob to support your weight in a corner. Now, "accidentally" pull the car out of gear and try to push it back in without clutching. You might hear some funny noises...that's what I'm getting at...

BlackCherryZ 01-13-2010 07:56 PM

:eekdance::confused:

well, the original intention was to find a solution about the problem

so, i guess so far, only AMS short shifter is only viable solution, right?

does it get rid of vibrations on the low rpm?

can i get more info on this?

as far as holding on to the shifer, it is just a habit..... not intended to mess up synchro.... am i the only odd-ball out there?

i do not think putting mind hand over the shifter would put any weight/pressure on it....

i am not pushing it or pulling on it.... just my right hand is on the top...

or even, my thumb is on the top......

well, i never had a problem putting my hand or thumb on the shifter......

MightyBobo 01-13-2010 08:12 PM

Im not saying everyone drives like a nut and its guaranteed to f your syncros up, FWIW - Im just saying, its not worth the risk for me heh.

theDreamer 01-14-2010 09:45 PM

AMS will be just like stock but it has an adjustable height to create a shorter shift.
B&M removes a lot of the rubber/filler material which will create a more mechanical shift "feel."

Neither is going to solve any vibration, that just comes with the car. Both of these short shifters will amplify that vibration at different RPMs and maybe even make a slight noise. Before jumping over to a new shifter, think about changing out the shift knob first. :)

armensti 01-15-2010 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCherryZ (Post 360672)
:eekdance::confused:

well, the original intention was to find a solution about the problem

so, i guess so far, only AMS short shifter is only viable solution, right?

does it get rid of vibrations on the low rpm?

can i get more info on this?

as far as holding on to the shifer, it is just a habit..... not intended to mess up synchro.... am i the only odd-ball out there?

i do not think putting mind hand over the shifter would put any weight/pressure on it....

i am not pushing it or pulling on it.... just my right hand is on the top...

or even, my thumb is on the top......

well, i never had a problem putting my hand or thumb on the shifter......

yeah its a habit for me too but i dont apply pressure on it either. usually my hand is on it but only the thumb or if im grabbing the shifter i dont really apply a lot of presure to it. i dont think that will really do anything unless your moving it around when its in gear or if your constantly pushing down on it.

m4a1mustang 01-15-2010 06:20 AM

This thread is ridiculous.

The shifter is directly mounted to the transmission, which is directly mounted to the engine. Both of these mechanical wonders have lots of bits and pieces that spin and turn and spit fire and what not. When bits and pieces spin and turn and spit fire, they vibrate.

If you connect something to something that vibrates, it will vibrate, too. Common sense!

Modshack 01-15-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 361326)
This thread is ridiculous.

The shifter is directly mounted to the transmission, which is directly mounted to the engine. Both of these mechanical wonders have lots of bits and pieces that spin and turn and spit fire and what not. When bits and pieces spin and turn and spit fire, they vibrate.

If you connect something to something that vibrates, it will vibrate, too. Common sense!

:iagree:...and the VQ37 engine is not exactly the smoothest to begin with..

Daishi 01-15-2010 09:45 AM

the shifter vibrating is more jdm anyway so dont worry about it lol.

BlackCherryZ 01-15-2010 02:10 PM

well, i am getting used to it.............. if i cant change it, why not love it....:happydance::driving:

another question is if i were to change the shift knob, would it vibrate more?

more than OEM shift knob or about the same?

anyone with just the shift knob upgrade?

TARDCORE 01-15-2010 10:57 PM

yeah dude honestly I can't stress enough to test drive the car quite a bit before you drive it. I test drove the Z 3 seperate times while testing other cars as well. I like the feel of being able to feel the hammers engage the next gear but I hate the "clunky" response as it feels like I am destroying my gears. But for the record, I messed up my 3rd gear synchros on my RSXS because I was holding the shifter knob while driving and too many times did I pull it out of gear before the clutch fully stopped the fly wheel. Eventually what began to happenb was when I was carefull with 3rd, it would "pop" out of place with the slightest pressure on the shifter as the clutch was fully engaged. Not to mention that Hondas have bad manual tranny synchros anyway.

Slynky 01-15-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE (Post 362529)
yeah dude honestly I can't stress enough to test drive the car quite a bit before you drive it. I test drove the Z 3 seperate times while testing other cars as well. I like the feel of being able to feel the hammers engage the next gear but I hate the "clunky" response as it feels like I am destroying my gears. But for the record, I messed up my 3rd gear synchros on my RSXS because I was holding the shifter knob while driving and too many times did I pull it out of gear before the clutch fully stopped the fly wheel. Eventually what began to happenb was when I was carefull with 3rd, it would "pop" out of place with the slightest pressure on the shifter as the clutch was fully engaged. Not to mention that Hondas have bad manual tranny synchros anyway.

Maybe I've been under the wrong impression in my 40+ years of driving. But are you saying the clutch somehow stops the flywheel from rotating? I thought the flywheel was attached to the engine/crankshaft and if the engine was turning, the IT was turning. Pressing the clutch merely (in simplistic terms) separates the spinning flywheel from the rest of the drivetrain so you can, for instance, change to a different gear and then when that's done, you release the clutch allowing the pressure plate/clutch to again make contact with the spinning flywheel.

Have I been mistaken all these years?

IDZRVIT 01-16-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Slynky (Post 362548)
Maybe I've been under the wrong impression in my 40+ years of driving. But are you saying the clutch somehow stops the flywheel from rotating? I thought the flywheel was attached to the engine/crankshaft and if the engine was turning, the IT was turning. Pressing the clutch merely (in simplistic terms) separates the spinning flywheel from the rest of the drivetrain so you can, for instance, change to a different gear and then when that's done, you release the clutch allowing the pressure plate/clutch to again make contact with the spinning flywheel.

Have I been mistaken all these years?

No. I think he meant to say "engaged". The only way to stop the flywheel's rotation is to stop the engine.


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