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T-Rex57 08-16-2019 10:53 PM

Moving on from the Z? :(
 
I know this is a bit of an odd topic but after 6 great years of ownership, things have changed and it's time to move on.

Basically I only get to drive mine once every two months which means registration cost alone is about $120 each time I drive it, and my daily is a POS.

Looking for input from Z fans who have upgraded to other cars or are in a similar situation. I'm after daily 4-door practicality but with some sporting feel.

I had thought to look at the Infiniti stable, but I didn't like the Q50 RedSport interior or steering feel when I test drove it (I think it's drive by wire or something?). Had great torque though.

Since I'm in Australia, my shortlist is currently:

- KIA Stinger GT RWD (TT V6 and enough space, but ... don't know about KIA)
- Holden Commodore VF2 SSV Redline Wagon (Big roomy LS3 V8 wagon, but model is no longer made)
- Volkswagen Arteon (4cyl turbo :/)

What do you think?

370zBoyz 08-16-2019 11:38 PM

Dodge Charger RT scat pack

Do they sell those over there? If not that sucks then...Plenty of power and room for 4 in that thing

T-Rex57 08-16-2019 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zBoyz (Post 3873132)
Dodge Charger RT scat pack

Do they sell those over there? If not that sucks then...Plenty of power and room for 4 in that thing

Unfortunately not. We don't get any of the good ****

The Weapon 08-17-2019 12:05 AM

Boost the Z buy another daily.

T-Rex57 08-17-2019 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Weapon (Post 3873138)
Boost the Z buy another daily.

As I said above, I don't get time to drive it. Why would I drop another AU$30k on boosting a car I won't get to drive for the foreseeable future and still have to pay registration on?

FL 4Motion 08-17-2019 10:08 AM

Audi rs3, or s4. Rs5 sportback is really nice too.

Golf r

cv129 08-17-2019 11:19 AM

T-Rex, just curious and also to put things in context....in Australia, do you have to pay a significant federal tax when buying a new car? And I heard of an additional Luxury Car Tax?

Registration fee...so around $500 usd per year?

If you like how he Z drives, but want to consolidate 2 cars into 1, how about a used G37 sedan?

Falconquey 08-17-2019 02:51 PM

Stinger GT all the way.... KIA is fine, especially with that awesome warranty.

Ventruck 08-17-2019 10:44 PM

I'm in the same-ish (emphasis on "-ish") boat. I've looked at the Lexus F Sport line. Test drove the GS F and RC F before in an autocross demo event.

I feel like if I'm dropping the money on refinement, reliability, and still some performance, it's hard to look elsewhere. It is a big jump in price from a Stinger, though, unless you go used.

I've test driven the I4 Genesis G70. It's a nice car. Really, it is. For the money it's good, but part of me would just lean to a used Lexus F model.

T-Rex57 08-17-2019 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3873158)
T-Rex, just curious and also to put things in context....in Australia, do you have to pay a significant federal tax when buying a new car? And I heard of an additional Luxury Car Tax?

Registration fee...so around $500 usd per year?

If you like how he Z drives, but want to consolidate 2 cars into 1, how about a used G37 sedan?

G37 isn't a bad idea at all, though after 6 years with the VQ, it would be nice to try a different motor especially one already boosted.

You're right about the taxes, however, the Stinger and Golf R are both just under the luxury car tax threshold. The Audi's aren't. That might trim the list a bit.

vtec to vvel 08-17-2019 11:40 PM

Nissan Maxima. Basically the 4-dr Z.

T-Rex57 08-17-2019 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 3873156)
Audi rs3, or s4. Rs5 sportback is really nice too.

Golf r

Didn't think about the S4. The RS3/RS5 are way out of my budget though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falconquey (Post 3873175)
Stinger GT all the way.... KIA is fine, especially with that awesome warranty.

At 7 years, it's pretty compelling

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ventruck (Post 3873220)
I'm in the same-ish (emphasis on "-ish") boat. I've looked at the Lexus F Sport line. Test drove the GS F and RC F before in an autocross demo event.

I feel like if I'm dropping the money on refinement, reliability, and still some performance, it's hard to look elsewhere. It is a big jump in price from a Stinger, though, unless you go used.

I've test driven the I4 Genesis G70. It's a nice car. Really, it is. For the money it's good, but part of me would just lean to a used Lexus F model.

I hadn't considered a used Lexus. Thanks for that.

The G70 has just been released here and I like it, but the price is astronomical for some reason. For instance, the base 2.0l turbo G70 on road is about 15k more expensive (BMW 340i territory) than the top-trim Stinger GT, which gives you the 3.3T for about $AU58k on road.

T-Rex57 08-17-2019 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3873227)
Nissan Maxima. Basically the 4-dr Z.

Not available here. Also I'm told it has a CVT in other markets, so I'm kinda glad :icon17:

FL 4Motion 08-18-2019 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Rex57 (Post 3873228)
Didn't think about the S4. The RS3/RS5 are way out of my budget though.



At 7 years, it's pretty compelling



I hadn't considered a used Lexus. Thanks for that.

The G70 has just been released here and I like it, but the price is astronomical for some reason. For instance, the base 2.0l turbo G70 on road is about 15k more expensive (BMW 340i territory) than the top-trim Stinger GT, which gives you the 3.3T for about $AU58k on road.


The s4 is really nice, there’s also the s5 sportback for a more coupish look. Don’t forget the s3. If you like the golf r, but want a sedan vs a hatch, it’s the same drivetrain but with more luxury added.

If you want used, with the Audi’s, go certified preowned if that’s a thing down under, over here it means a six year bumper to bumper extended warranty for peace of mind going used.

Quicksilvers 08-18-2019 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Rex57 (Post 3873226)
G37 isn't a bad idea at all, though after 6 years with the VQ, it would be nice to try a different motor especially one already boosted.

You're right about the taxes, however, the Stinger and Golf R are both just under the luxury car tax threshold. The Audi's aren't. That might trim the list a bit.

If you are set on selling your Z then I wish you the best of luck with the sale. You will miss your Z it is a reliable,dependable,and enjoyable to drive Japanese sports car to own. The Infiniti Q50 RedSport and the G37 are both solid vehicles to own I know people that were happy driving and owning them Nissan/Infiniti makes a quality vehicle for what you pay for. In my opinion I would never purchase a Kia Stinger GT due to having poor resale value in the first five years of ownership, unreliability reported by owners, and Kia vehicles being produced to South Korea as I don’t care to support them or their products. Volkswagen makes some of the most unreliable vehicles in the vehicle market my Volkswagen Jetta I owned was one of the worst vehicles I ever owned right next to the Hyundai Azera that was just as worse. I am in a similar situation I am considering purchasing a 2020 Subaru Impreza STI. Having owned a Subaru Impreza WRX before and know multiple people that have owned the Subaru WRX and STI I can tell you they are great vehicles to own and there is a big demand for Subaru’s in the vehicle market in turn they have excellent resale value. The only known issue in the 2019 and 2020 Subaru Impreza STI would be the factory tune and needing to get them tuned other than that they are great vehicles to own and they are turbocharged if you are looking for a boosted application.

T-Rex57 08-18-2019 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3873253)
If you are set on selling your Z then I wish you the best of luck with the sale. You will miss your Z it is a reliable,dependable,and enjoyable to drive Japanese sports car to own. The Infiniti Q50 RedSport and the G37 are both solid vehicles to own I know people that were happy driving and owning them Nissan/Infiniti makes a quality vehicle for what you pay for. In my opinion I would never purchase a Kia Stinger GT due to having poor resale value in the first five years of ownership, unreliability reported by owners, and Kia vehicles being produced to South Korea as I don’t care to support them or their products. Volkswagen makes some of the most unreliable vehicles in the vehicle market my Volkswagen Jetta I owned was one of the worst vehicles I ever owned right next to the Hyundai Azera that was just as worse. I am in a similar situation I am considering purchasing a 2020 Subaru Impreza STI. Having owned a Subaru Impreza WRX before and know multiple people that have owned the Subaru WRX and STI I can tell you they are great vehicles to own and there is a big demand for Subaru’s in the vehicle market in turn they have excellent resale value. The only known issue in the 2019 and 2020 Subaru Impreza STI would be the factory tune and needing to get them tuned other than that they are great vehicles to own and they are turbocharged if you are looking for a boosted application.


Fair points. I'm definitely looking at VW and KIA reliability at the moment.

The 2020 Impreza WRX would be the ideal pick. I used to own a GC8 many, many moons ago. However, I have mild physical nerve damage in my feet and left arm after an accident years ago, so I can't choose a manual car (heavy clutch = pain time). I feel it would be wrong to buy an Impreza with the CVT they've got in the domestic model WRX.

Another option is a BMW 135i/140i (B58 engine), which can be had locally for Golf R price or less, but does only have 3 years warranty.

Zingston 08-18-2019 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Rex57 (Post 3873228)
Didn't think about the S4. The RS3/RS5 are way out of my budget though.



At 7 years, it's pretty compelling



I hadn't considered a used Lexus. Thanks for that.

The G70 has just been released here and I like it, but the price is astronomical for some reason. For instance, the base 2.0l turbo G70 on road is about 15k more expensive (BMW 340i territory) than the top-trim Stinger GT, which gives you the 3.3T for about $AU58k on road.


Given the choices listed, I'd go Stinger GT.

Raidernation 08-18-2019 01:58 PM

Get a Lexus IS350 and call it a day. Good luck with the search and post some pics when you get your new ride.

Jsolo 08-18-2019 11:51 PM

OP, give this thread a read.. Over the g37 we've covered this in pretty good detail :)

https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...t-is-time.html

dts3 08-19-2019 01:14 AM

What about a Giulia?

T-Rex57 08-19-2019 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dts3 (Post 3873376)
What about a Giulia?

Can't afford the Quadrifoglio ($AU 155k) so I don't see the point

ShuuraRG 08-19-2019 08:10 PM

I'd go with a Ute! I wish we could get those here...

personal wishes aside, the Stinger sounds like the best out of those choices!

T-Rex57 08-22-2019 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ShuuraRG (Post 3873537)
I'd go with a Ute! I wish we could get those here...

personal wishes aside, the Stinger sounds like the best out of those choices!

Heh, I hear ya. The final model HSV Maloo ute came with the 6.2L supercharged LSA engine as well.

Unfortunately the need for 4 seats is real

NecioVato 08-22-2019 10:42 AM

Out of the choices - depending on how big of a ride you need and if you are wanting a sedan - i would go Stinger as well or a used Lexus. But...like some have said in previous posts - if you are wanting a car that is practical and still is fun to drive - I would consider a Golf R. It can easily be tuned to produce more HP, AWD and is a fun car to drive. Just my .02. Good luck with your new choice - hope to see pics when you get it :)

CMadison 08-22-2019 12:03 PM

Avoid anything made by Chrysler-Fiat and call it a win.

dts3 08-22-2019 12:46 PM

So since someone has mentioned a Golf-R, what about a Focus RS

UNKNOWN_370 08-22-2019 02:54 PM

The only affordable sedan that has truly blown me away having driven some hardcore sports cars is the Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport. If your country gets the veloce I say... do it!!

Falconquey 08-22-2019 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=UNKNOWN_370;3874293]The only affordable sedan that has truly blown me away having driven some hardcore sports cars is the Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport. If your country gets the veloce I say... do it!![/QUOTE





dts3 already suggested that model.

Inspector71 08-23-2019 11:24 PM

Quicksilvers
 
You do what you have to do. Back in 2014, mad at my 2009 red 370Z for clutch slave cylinder failure leaving me stranded 3 times after the dealer "fixed" it, I impetuously sold it. Traded it for a 2010 low mileage Dodge Challenger Hemi R/T with low mileages. Within a month, very time I saw a Z, I was sick. I heard the Chrysler dealer sold it to the Nissan dealer who sold it to the Volkswagen Dealership. I went looking for it and was glad not to find it. The Challenger was fast but huge as a barge. It was more a redneck hot rod and that's not me. I thought I'd get over it but didn't. In December of 2015, I found a white 370Z at another Chrysler dealer. It had 3000 miles on the odometer. The previous owner drove it from March to August and then traded it for a Jeep Cherokee. It sat on the lot until I bought it in December. I have never looked back. I love the car so much and will never make this mistake again. All I'm saying is, if you have no choice, then do what needs done. But be sure of that else you will pine for that car. Who makes a two-door, two-seat, rear drive, sports car with a 6-cylinder engine in the price range of a Nissan 370Z, used or new? No one.

T-Rex57 08-25-2019 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector71 (Post 3874486)
You do what you have to do. Back in 2014, mad at my 2009 red 370Z for clutch slave cylinder failure leaving me stranded 3 times after the dealer "fixed" it, I impetuously sold it. Traded it for a 2010 low mileage Dodge Challenger Hemi R/T with low mileages. Within a month, very time I saw a Z, I was sick. I heard the Chrysler dealer sold it to the Nissan dealer who sold it to the Volkswagen Dealership. I went looking for it and was glad not to find it. The Challenger was fast but huge as a barge. It was more a redneck hot rod and that's not me. I thought I'd get over it but didn't. In December of 2015, I found a white 370Z at another Chrysler dealer. It had 3000 miles on the odometer. The previous owner drove it from March to August and then traded it for a Jeep Cherokee. It sat on the lot until I bought it in December. I have never looked back. I love the car so much and will never make this mistake again. All I'm saying is, if you have no choice, then do what needs done. But be sure of that else you will pine for that car. Who makes a two-door, two-seat, rear drive, sports car with a 6-cylinder engine in the price range of a Nissan 370Z, used or new? No one.


I know, I am going to miss it. I still miss my first Z, a '96 JDM 2-seater twin turbo 300zx - these cars have a tonne of character and a lot of memories.

But I have to let it go from a financial and family perspective.


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