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Hello 01-10-2010 01:54 PM

New Roadster, Spoiler problem, dealer problem
 
Hey guys,
I recently bought a 2010 370z Roadster with sport pakage.
well, heres the situation... when I decided to get a sport pakage was because the dealer said spoiler comes with sport pakage. now that i found out its only for Coupe. not roadster. Its funny how they didnt even know.
well, if there was no spoiler, i wouldnt have gotten sport pakage. and bought the car $3000 cheaper.
Now, all they are saying is they will install any spoiler i want...
doesnt matter if its aftermarket or not.

i honestly want my money back for the sport pakage, because if they were little more educated about the new roadster and told me that theres no spoiler whatsoever, then there would be no sport pakage on my car.

but if getting me a spoiler is the only way for dealer then, im planning to get the most expensive spoiler and sell'em or whatever. which one would that be???

what do you guys think????

thanks

whoady4shoady 01-10-2010 02:00 PM

You mean to tell me that they charge you the same price for the sport package on the roadster as the coupe, but you dont get as many options? Something is wrong there.

m4a1mustang 01-10-2010 02:01 PM

Sport package gives you bigger brakes, better wheels and tires, and SRM if you got the manual. I say keep it. If you want a spoiler installed, have them see if the coupe spoiler will fit and install that. If not, just ask them to reimburse you the cost of the spoiler itself which is like 400 bucks or so, then you can put that towards an aftermarket one for the roadster.

Either way, I think the sport package is a worthwhile addition, esp if you have a manual trans.

Btw where in VA are you located?

Division 01-10-2010 02:02 PM

The charge you the same price for the sport package on the 7AT and the 6MT and only the 6MT has SRM...

Zaggeron 01-10-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello (Post 358483)
Hey guys,
I recently bought a 2010 370z Roadster with sport pakage.
well, heres the situation... when I decided to get a sport pakage was because the dealer said spoiler comes with sport pakage. now that i found out its only for Coupe. not roadster.

I'm not sure I understand. Did you buy the car unseen and then at pickup notice it had no spoiler?

I'm not sure if this is how they do it everywhere, but when I bought my roadster they had to have it brought up from another dealership, but I didn't sign the papers until I took delivery. What I did sign was a note of intent wherein the dealer promises to provide me with the vehicle described in the note and I promised to pay the price agreed upon. I'm guessing that in your case if the vehicle wasn't as described, you could have refused delivery.

That said, the sport package didn't add 3k to your purchase price unless you paid MSRP for it. Even without the spoiler it is well worth the money.

IDZRVIT 01-10-2010 02:43 PM

Was it an honest mistake by the salesman telling you it came with a spoiler as part of the sport package? The dealer is trying to make good on the error. Why not take them up on their offer or negotiate an equivalent cost towards something else - free oil changes or whatever.

Hello 01-10-2010 02:52 PM

Yea, I have 7AT.
First I ordered my car, and the dealer told me it will only take a month, i was waiting.... and one day, dealer called me and said they found one exsactly same one at New jersey. and they said that they will pay for the delivery. so I took that one.
Complicated story, I did the favor to dealer, by signing the paper before the year ended. on 12/29. and picked up the car 1/2/10. i guess they wanted officially sold the car before the month ended and year ended.
and when i got the car, the car was so beautiful and i was busy test driving the car. i guess the roadster looks good without spoiler for me to not notice.

anyways, they charge 2800 for roadster, and 3000 for coupe. ( the sport pakage), but my whole point is IF i only knew or DEALER/Salesperson only knew that roadster dont come with spoiler. eventho u get sport pakage. then i wouldve paid less money for me car.

Im a female Z owner, I really dont need paddle shifter, wheels? my boyfriend has sponsership over at JLINE wheels... and Brakes? i think with $2800, i could of gotten brembos..no?:mad::mad::mad:

Hello 01-10-2010 03:12 PM

m4a1mustang ; im over at tysons corner area..

JakeZ34 01-10-2010 03:40 PM

Seriously, I'm not like hating on your but why did you buy sports package just for spoiler look? Sports package gives you better brakes, synchrorev, underbody aero parts, bigger rims and tires, VLSD. And you here are whining about a spoiler that really don't even do that much...besides for looks. I mean I'd be happy with everything already even just with the 2010 370Z. Just my 2 cents that you shouldn't whine about a spoiler.

Hello 01-10-2010 04:01 PM

haha really? like i said... if it was just the spoiler, then sport pakage would not be on my car. i had a budget. and without the sport pakage was pretty much max.
But as u stated.. I just made a decesion, spoiler comes with sport pakage according to what dealer said. and mush MORE. so i was like 'why not...'
If they stated correctly to begin with saying that roadster didnt come with spoiler. then there would be no decesion for me to make. no sport pakage pereiod:mad:

AK370Z 01-10-2010 04:06 PM

Hi,
sorry about the confusion. I wish you would've signed up here before buying the car.

Quote:

Now, all they are saying is they will install any spoiler i want...
If dealer is saying they will install any spoiler you want, then simply ask them to either

a. install the Regular spoiler painted or
http://www.the370z.com/members/ak370...8-mines-07.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/ak370...8-mines-08.jpg



b. S-Tune spoiler (Nissan part available through dealer).
http://www.the370z.com/members/ak370...ear-s-tune.png

http://www.the370z.com/members/ak370...e519-pic-7.jpg

Hope this helps. Thanks

Hello 01-10-2010 04:41 PM

where did you get $200 for the spoiler from? when I was debating, sales person told me that the spoiler cost with out installation was $681.14.
So oviouslly, the sport pakage comes with much more, i decided to go with it.
and for me, i really wanted spoiler. is there problem with that? cuz i dont see any problem there... i did my own calculation and ofcourse the sport pakage was worth it so i decided to go with it.
but now i ended up with no spoiler but everything else. wouldnt it make me little upset? maybe think just salesperson told me the right information so i could make right decesion..?? isnt that why salesperson is there also?

yeah, i dont think you guys are getting my question here. and ganging up on me... but I was just telling a story how did this all happened and my question was which spoiler to go with since they are paying for it???

wow, was my statement that stupid which made me whinnin person?
i was just simply asking which spoiler to go with...

Zaggeron 01-10-2010 04:54 PM

Well AK has posted some of your choices -- at least the ones available for dealer install ... though I've got a nagging suspicion that they may not fit correctly "off the rack". In any event, I would make sure and get someone to photoshop your car with the addition of your spoiler so you have some idea of how it would look -- I looked but couldn't find any pictures of the roadster with a spoiler ... anyone?

370ZNV 01-10-2010 05:00 PM

wow, was my statement that stupid which made me whinnin person?
i was just simply asking which spoiler to go with...[/QUOTE]


hmmmm:confused:

dalparadise 01-10-2010 06:31 PM

I don't think either of those spoilers will work on a Roadster. I actually prefer the Roadster without a spoiler, as it's purely cosmetic on this car anyway. Perhaps a really small lip-type spoiler would look good, but you'll have to wait for Nissan or aftermarket to make one down the road.

It sounds like a little bit of buyer's remorse on your part. If you were expecting full value for your $3000 spoiler addition, you were doomed to disappointment, anyway.

I do agree with the logic that the sport package pushes the boundaries of "good value" in the 7AT Roadster. Its appeal to me was the synchro-rev for the 6MT, brakes and WHEELS. If I were like you and didn't care about those things, yeah, the sport pkg would seem like a real waste of money. That said, I think the Rays 19s are almost worth the price of the Sport PKG alone (to me, anyway).

For the record, the Aero PKG is completely absent on the Roadster -- it's just not as aerodynamically designed as the Coupe. Those include not only the spoiler, but also front and rear underbody deflectors.

dalparadise 01-10-2010 06:32 PM

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Lug 01-10-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Division (Post 358490)
The charge you the same price for the sport package on the 7AT and the 6MT and only the 6MT has SRM...

Fwi, the 7at Rev matches as well, it's just not called that.

PapoZalsa 01-10-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello (Post 358546)
where did you get $200 for the spoiler from? when I was debating, sales person told me that the spoiler cost with out installation was $681.14.


That is the price for the aerodynamic package on the base model coupe.

JakeZ34 01-10-2010 10:41 PM

I wanna apologized if I sounded like I'm flaming you, but I'm not, I just thought why you'd want just a spoiler. like others stated, the rims itself it's pretty much worth the money, those are Rays Engineering wheels. And they're sweet too for stock wheels. Plus brakes, vlsd, SRM, much much more. Overall it's just a great decision and if dealer agreed to refund you the difference then your all good. Again apologizing if I sound like I'm flaming ya, just other out there would love to have sports package on their base model Z's.

Slynky 01-11-2010 08:27 AM

Wow, some of you guys can be quick off the draw on some people...makes me even a bit gun-shy to reply here but...

The OP, a female (pertinent), posted some information about how she got the car she got and what she was told she would get. Apparently, they weren't the same thing, and like most dealers I've ever dealt with, one has to wonder if she was mislead on purpose or through stupidity on behalf of the sales staff. Either way, it's their mistake, not hers. And while I realize the dealership is "going to make it right" by retro-fitting a spoiler of choice, I can't help but wonder if she wasn't taken advantage of because she is a female (happens ALL the time).

Whether you agree or not, the OP had certain preferences about the car she wanted and whether or not you agree with them, the spoiler was one of the main reasons for plopping down the extra money. She didn't get it because of an honest mistake or direct lying. I would be irritated if that sort of thing was done to me as well.

So, AK posted some photos (photos ALWAYS good) :tup: and there was some other good advice about a spoiler on a roadster... :tup:. But some of the other replies...:rolleyes:

Hello 01-11-2010 09:40 AM

thanks guys and sorry if was little upset.
but yeah! If only stock spoiler fit the roadster....
now after reading some of the posts, I decided to just install the spoiler they offer me,
but from my knowledge, there's no spoiler out for Z roadster yet. but salesperson keep telling me there's really nice one straight from japan that cost $4000 USD. they are willing to install that one for me. but did not tell me the name of the spoiler... are they just f*ckin around with me cuz im a girl??? or is there spoiler like that in japan?

mind as well just take extended warranty...???

DarinFred 01-11-2010 09:56 AM

Bad on you for not being educated before plopping down $40K on a car. After looking at the Nissan site for 3 minutes, it's pretty clear the sports package doesn't come with a spoiler. I don't even see any offered. I'd trust the literature before a salesman any day of the week

Bad on the dealer for blowing smoke up your @$$ and saying they want to install a $4000 spoiler. That is total bull. But, they seem to be trying to fix the issue for you.

Not to sound like a **** (I know, I already do sound like one, but not taking personal responsibility and allowing yourself to get "screwed" is a pet peeve of mine), being a woman is no excuse for not knowing exactly what you are buying when you sign the dotted line.

Lug 01-11-2010 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalparadise (Post 358583)
I do agree with the logic that the sport package pushes the boundaries of "good value" in the 7AT Roadster. Its appeal to me was the synchro-rev for the 6MT, brakes and WHEELS. If I were like you and didn't care about those things, yeah, the sport pkg would seem like a real waste of money. That said, I think the Rays 19s are almost worth the price of the Sport PKG alone (to me, anyway).

SRM would be redundant on the 7AT and don't forget the Limited Slip Diff. Even the cheapie Nissan uses would be quite pricey in the real world.

JakeZ34 01-11-2010 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello (Post 358886)
thanks guys and sorry if was little upset.
but yeah! If only stock spoiler fit the roadster....
now after reading some of the posts, I decided to just install the spoiler they offer me,
but from my knowledge, there's no spoiler out for Z roadster yet. but salesperson keep telling me there's really nice one straight from japan that cost $4000 USD. they are willing to install that one for me. but did not tell me the name of the spoiler... are they just f*ckin around with me cuz im a girl??? or is there spoiler like that in japan?

mind as well just take extended warranty...???

4K USD for a spoiler from japan? It had better be Mines or some big company ****, I don't think Nissan makes a spoiler that cost 4K lol even at japan. I'd just go talk to the store owner and have him take care of the problems for you instead of wasting your time with parts managers and parts people, half of the time they DO NOT know what they're talking about, for compensation on a matter like this it's best you just talk to the store manager.

ncnickusa 01-11-2010 11:09 AM

Unlike the 2010 Coupe the 2010 Roadster is not all that new. The full features and specs went public on 4/7/2009. This information even included pictures and guess what? No spoiler. On 7/13/2009 pricing for the Roadsterwent public with specs, pictures and guess what? No spoiler. Not even a dealer install option for a spoiler. So after 6+ months I think the dealer and sales people should know whats up. I think it really shows that this dealer whants happy customers and they are covering for a sales person first day on the job mistake.

kenchan 01-11-2010 12:10 PM

if i got a roadster i would go without a spoiler. can the motor even handle additional weight when you collapse the canvas? does the spoiler even clear the rear bumper area when it opens for the canvas? not sure...but areas you might want to check into prior to install.

honestly, i would ask them for a quick $300 refund or something for their mistake and call it a day.

elmz 01-11-2010 05:22 PM

I doubt any of the coupe spoilers will fit on the Roadster without some modifications to it. It sounds like the dealer is trying to make up for it, and if you ask me, they sound really sorry and are doing what they can, and you seem to want to punish them like they killed your dog or something. I'm not sure what the Sport Pkg comes with in the Roadsters, but it is very much worth it for the coupe (bigger wheels, better tires, upgraded brakes, front chin spoiler, rear spoiler, SRM, and LSD). That totals to a lot more that 3k if bought separately. This dealer sounds like a keeper to me, but only if they come through for you. I say give them a chance, you may find a better spoiler and be happier in the end.


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