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ChopsZ 06-02-2019 04:06 PM

Thought this day would never come, possibly selling the Z...
 
Due to some recent events and physical issues, I may end up having to sell me Z, which I thought I would never do.

With that said, how much do you guys think I could get for it? I still have a lean on it, but that really doesn't matter at this point. I would be selling privately, NO dealers at all. It's a 2016 base 6MT with less than 18k miles on the clock.

Would I be better off selling with or without the mods? The stereo system would definitely be staying with me however.

Z1 intakes, ported/polished upper/lower intake manifolds, bored TB's by MaxBore (60mm to 65mm), Motordyne Art pipes, HKS High-Power exhaust, BC coilovers, Akebono brake upgrade, Stoptech slotted rotors and pads, SPL Titanium rear camber links, EcuTek tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ, Continental Extreme Contact DW (245/40 & 285/35), 2013 Nismo wheels with some previous curb rash NOT from me. Carbon fiber front lip, carbon fiber tach hood, Z1 M-Spec "Fairlady" shift knob, RJM v3 clutch pedal.

Many thanks in advance. And if this is posted in the wrong section, sorry.

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Spartan 1771 06-02-2019 04:10 PM

My personal opinion is you would be better off restoring it to factory condition and then selling it separately from all of the mods. Generally speaking, you'll make more money that way, unless you can find another enthusiast who understands the value of all of the mods you installed and wants all of them for their build.

Just my $0.02

BettyZ 06-02-2019 04:30 PM

Very sorry to hear this. For all things there is a season, or whatever. I agree with Spartan - if you sell with mods in car you're lucky to get 20 cents on the dollar for the mods. Revert to stock and sell the parts here. Maybe have a presale for the wonderful people who gave you advice lol

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axmea? 06-02-2019 05:07 PM

Sorry to hear this. Part it out and restore back to base like everyone else said.

OTW Z-Boy 06-02-2019 05:41 PM

Bummer to hear, I’d weigh out the options on doing the work or paying to get the aftermarket removed... if what you spend on time and costs is less than 50% off retail for the parts then there’s your reason to do it.

I’ve always been a fan of putting back to stock regardless of getting what you invested out of it better the parts go to someone who will appreciate and enjoy them rather than just an uneducated buyer.


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ChopsZ 06-02-2019 05:55 PM

I kind of already knew the answer as far as parting out or selling as is. The good thing is, other than wheels, I have all of the stock parts still.

I've done all the work myself with the help of one of my very good friends, so it wouldn't be a huge deal putting it back to stock. In the end, I'd just have to pay for a 4-wheel alignment and that's it, and reflash the stock tune back onto the ECU.

vtec to vvel 06-02-2019 06:21 PM

Advertise as base model that is better than the sports package. Just kidding. Even though we bumped heads in the past, had to bust your chops (pun intended).

Sorry to hear about your situation. Whatever you decide, good luck!

ChopsZ 06-02-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3857482)
Advertise as base model that is better than the sports package. Just kidding. Even though we bumped heads in the past, had to bust your chops (pun intended).

Sorry to hear about your situation. Whatever you decide, good luck!

Thank you. It does suck but I guess nothing lasts forever.

vtec to vvel 06-02-2019 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3857484)
Thank you. It does suck but I guess nothing lasts forever.

If you do decide to do a part-out sale, let me know. I’m in Tampa.

ChopsZ 06-02-2019 07:04 PM

Of course.

BettyZ 06-02-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3857484)
Thank you. It does suck but I guess nothing lasts forever.

Except for herpes. That **** just will not go away - so I've heard..

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ChopsZ 06-02-2019 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3857491)
Except for herpes. That **** just will not go away - so I've heard..

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:facepalm:

RWT 06-02-2019 09:20 PM

Sorry to hear of your situation.

I'll share my experience with selling modified vehicles (Jeeps).

My first one, I did as you described, saved the original parts and spent hours & hours and a lot of labor returning it to stock before selling. I did so with the belief that a modified vehicle doesn't sell for much more than a non-modified vehicle. Sold the Jeep and sold the aftermarket parts I removed. What I realized from my experience was that I didn't recoup nearly as much as I thought would from the sale of the aftermarket parts and when I factored in the time and labor (not only removing the aftermarket parts but reinstalling the OEM parts adds up and my time is valuable), I didn't really make, or save, much at all. Of course, your mileage may very.

So, with my Jeeps that followed, I didn't return them to stock, sold them modified knowing I wouldn't really make much additional money over stock on the sale. However, I sold the stock parts I removed along the way, which didn't require any additional time or labor, and made money on that end.

It's not as easy as, I payed $1200 for my aftermarket exhaust and sold it for $900. That's an over simplification that doesn't consider the value of the removed OEM parts, the time and labor associated with removal and re-install and any bump in sale price of the car as a result of the modifications.

I didn't run a spread sheet or cost analysis but I came to the conclusion that the money from the sale of the OEM parts removed, the increased sale price from the modifications (albeit not great) + the time and labor I saved by not returning the vehicles to stock, was better for me.

I am not saying my choice is the best choice, I'm just saying it works for me.

Just some thoughts.

ChopsZ 06-02-2019 09:27 PM

I've thought about it this way as well. And the reason I thought of this, is because the people who would most likely be interested in buying my particular car would want to have these or similar parts, and know that the parts I have chosen are quality parts. The only thing on the car that could definitely use an upgrade are the BC coilovers. They're not bad, but could be improved upon. As for the rest of the parts, you can't really get much better. Different maybe, but not better. Well, maybe if you decided to heavily track the car, I supposed the brakes could be upgraded at that point.

Ventruck 06-03-2019 01:28 AM

I feel like taking a shot at this forum's exchange forum for the car as-is wouldn't hurt.

Even though a stock/original car should yield more value by principal, someone here is more likely to understand how the mods can be their worthwhile. Like RWT said, some money and surely time will have to go into converting backwards.

MZ DAIZY 06-03-2019 05:22 AM

If I was looking to buy another Z, I’d pay a couple of bucks more for the mods. Saves me the time and hassle. That’s just me, though. YMMV.

B&W_Evader 06-03-2019 08:24 AM

General consensus is that modded cars are beat on. Better to just sell it and not mention anything. If a someone likes the mods , they'll notice them.

ColtronZ 06-03-2019 09:11 AM

Oh no, that was you on Facebook :( Part out to make your money and sell the car faster. I definitely think someone in CFZC or Tampa could be interested with the mods but you could be waiting.

Sway 06-03-2019 09:58 AM

Part out then sell the car as close to stock as possible will always be the most profitable option.

MZ DAIZY 06-03-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtronZ (Post 3857654)
Oh no, that was you on Facebook :( Part out to make your money and sell the car faster. I definitely think someone in CFZC or Tampa could be interested with the mods but you could be waiting.

Thinking about this... any used Harley I’ve bought Had 10’s of thousands of dollars of chrome on it that has ZERO resale value while on the bike.

The saying is “chrome don’t get you home”.

That being said, your mods are not just cosmetic. For example:

A stage 2 chrome exhaust that’s been tuned, already on? Worth some dough!
A pair of chrome handgrips? Worthless!

A $400 quality aftermarket seat? Worth some dough!
A $10,000 custom paint job? Worthless!

I think you can see where I’m going here...

What I would do is list it with the mods as “negotiable”. Keeps your options open that maybe your buyer is willing to pay for certain mods already done.

Saves a lot of time and hassle if you don’t have to make it COMPLETELY stock.

MZ DAIZY 06-03-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3857638)
General consensus is that modded cars are beat on. Better to just sell it and not mention anything. If a someone likes the mods , they'll notice them.

<< General consensus is that SPORTS CARS are beat on. >>

Fixed it for ya!

MZ DAIZY 06-03-2019 02:01 PM

Ok, one last thing and I’m done, I swear!

After spending hours, days, weeks, uninstalling your mods, installing the stock parts, storing, listing fees, waiting for sale, waiting for payment, payment fees, packing, shipping, shipping fees, insurance etc...

How much you think your going to recoup? I’m betting less than 30%

I’m not buying anyone’s used parts for anything less than fire-sale prices.

But that’s me, i don’t have the time or patience for that.

Not to mention, the 10 chuckleheads that bought new (unmodded) Z’s last year, narrow the field down a bit.

Sway 06-03-2019 02:28 PM

^^^ not my experience with my last 3 cars, but to each their own.
I typically ask for 50% + shipping on used parts, and sometimes I end up splitting shipping 50/50 or something... but it’s always put a healthy chunk of money in my pockets, especially if I’m dishing out multiple parts at a time.

In my 16 years of modding and selling and repeating,
The only thing aftermarket wise I see that really pumps up the value is if they’re boosted with all the paper work. And personally I’m less likely to buy a car that’s modified with more than a basic bolt on or two. Most people are, but not all.

The Z Philes 06-03-2019 03:27 PM

Off topic, see some Tampa people here (and OP is Lakeland), are there any Z meetups in the area?

Spooler 06-03-2019 03:47 PM

Not sure what your situation is but I would say just keep it as long as you can. You may power out of your situation just fine.

OldFart 06-03-2019 09:47 PM

I am in a similar situation with my health. I would have to pay someone to return the car back to stock. I have most of the stock parts but would throw that in with the sale. Let the new owner decide what they want to do when the car eventually goes up for sale. Just enjoy while ya can...

ChopsZ 06-03-2019 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3857728)
Not sure what your situation is but I would say just keep it as long as you can. You may power out of your situation just fine.

I've been dealing with a bad knee for around 6 months now. At first it would come and go. That was around a year ago, but for the past 6 months, it's been constant. With me compensating for the knee, it's started effecting my hip, as well as now effecting my right ankle. Getting in and out of the Z is getting somewhat painful, especially when climbing out of the car.



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Originally Posted by OldFart (Post 3857807)
I am in a similar situation with my health. I would have to pay someone to return the car back to stock. I have most of the stock parts but would throw that in with the sale. Let the new owner decide what they want to do when the car eventually goes up for sale. Just enjoy while ya can...

That's another great idea which I actually thought about late last night while laying in bed. Instead of stripping the car down to stock, just keep it as is and hand over all of the stock parts with the car. Because we all know it would be next to impossible to sell the stock parts for anything worth the effort.

Spooler 06-03-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3857809)
I've been dealing with a bad knee for around 6 months now. At first it would come and go. That was around a year ago, but for the past 6 months, it's been constant. With me compensating for the knee, it's started effecting my hip, as well as now effecting my right ankle. Getting in and out of the Z is getting somewhat painful, especially when climbing out of the car.


LMAO, I have 2 bad knees. The left one since 1993, ACL surgery to fix it. I have some torn meniscus in it now. My right knee I had a bucket tear on my meniscus and had it scoped in 2009. I had 60% of my meniscus removed and have more torn in it now. Sounds like you need to visit the Orthopedic Dr. to have your issue accessed. I may have to crawl to my Z but I won't be getting rid of it.

ChopsZ 06-03-2019 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3857825)
LMAO, I have 2 bad knees. The left one since 1993, ACL surgery to fix it. I have some torn meniscus in it now. My right knee I had a bucket tear on my meniscus and had it scoped in 2009. I had 60% of my meniscus removed and have more torn in it now. Sounds like you need to visit the Orthopedic Dr. to have your issue accessed. I may have to crawl to my Z but I won't be getting rid of it.

Good for you. You apparently have health insurance. Some of us don't.

Rusty 06-03-2019 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3857809)
I've been dealing with a bad knee for around 6 months now. At first it would come and go. That was around a year ago, but for the past 6 months, it's been constant. With me compensating for the knee, it's started effecting my hip, as well as now effecting my right ankle. Getting in and out of the Z is getting somewhat painful, especially when climbing out of the car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3857825)
LMAO, I have 2 bad knees. The left one since 1993, ACL surgery to fix it. I have some torn meniscus in it now. My right knee I had a bucket tear on my meniscus and had it scoped in 2009. I had 60% of my meniscus removed and have more torn in it now. Sounds like you need to visit the Orthopedic Dr. to have your issue accessed. I may have to crawl to my Z but I won't be getting rid of it.

Like Spooler. Both knees have bucket flap tears in the meniscus. Right hip replaced at the age of 47. Arthritic in the back. Been through 10 surgeries. Pins in my left foot. Can't pass through an airport without setting off the alarms. Thought my orthro doctor was my PCP for a while. I don't have too many days without pain. I try not let it slow me up.

ChopsZ 06-03-2019 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3857827)
Like Spooler. Both knees have bucket flap tears in the meniscus. Right hip replaced at the age of 47. Arthritic in the back. Been through 10 surgeries. Pins in my left foot. Can't pass through an airport without setting off the alarms. Thought my orthro doctor was my PCP for a while. I don't have too many days without pain. I try not let it slow me up.

Again, if someone (a.k.a. - Me) does not have health insurance, it's all kind of a moot point arguing about it.

ChopsZ 06-03-2019 11:21 PM

Let's not have this thread go south, off topic and have a big *itch fest.

Spooler 06-03-2019 11:58 PM

Now that I know you don't have health insurance it may be the right thing to do in letting it go so you can get your health in order. I have also went a long time without health insurance. It sucks. You can get another car later. Best of luck to you.

ChopsZ 06-04-2019 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3857837)
Now that I know you don't have health insurance it may be the right thing to do in letting it go so you can get your health in order. I have also went a long time without health insurance. It sucks. You can get another car later. Best of luck to you.

That's pretty much the plan. I sort of have another vehicle lined up that's in mint shape, and I can make a few payments on it and it'll be paid off within a few months. Then I can put that monthly "Z" payment money towards insurance.

sp911 06-04-2019 05:48 AM

well, since I don't see anyone answering your original question, i'd say maybe 21-22k you'd get for it, not knowing exact condition, etc. good luck.

ChopsZ 06-05-2019 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sp911 (Post 3857867)
well, since I don't see anyone answering your original question, i'd say maybe 21-22k you'd get for it, not knowing exact condition, etc. good luck.

Pretty much mint, less than 18k miles, regular maintenance, Mobil 1, GT-R oil filter, etc, etc, etc...

37zeroZ 06-05-2019 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3858323)
Pretty much mint, less than 18k miles, regular maintenance, Mobil 1, GT-R oil filter, etc, etc, etc...

There's nothing mint about a vehicle with 18K miles on it. I say the car is worth 19.5K - 20.5K.

ChopsZ 06-05-2019 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 37zeroZ (Post 3858345)
There's nothing mint about a vehicle with 18K miles on it. I say the car is worth 19.5K - 20.5K.

That's nice.

NecioVato 06-10-2019 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3857841)
That's pretty much the plan. I sort of have another vehicle lined up that's in mint shape, and I can make a few payments on it and it'll be paid off within a few months. Then I can put that monthly "Z" payment money towards insurance.

What vehicle are you leaning toward replacing the Z with? While I know reliability can be a concern-maybe a VW GTI or Golf R with a DSG Trans? Those cars can be tuned and are a lot of fun.


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