This thread went downhill fast

Absolutely, there are those that want to work and will bust @$$, but hard to come by.

And I just re-read my post and wasn’t referring to you about the comment in parenthesis being possibly offensive, but rather to the general public.

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This thread needs a new direction.

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This is my take on things over the years. Skilled trades is dying. Kids coming out of high school don't want to get their hands dirty. They spent years inside playing video games that does nothing to prepare them for life after school. So they go to college which fosters the wrong ideas to prepare them for after college. When they come out of college. They have this idea in their head that they will start at the top, get the corner office, with 2 sets of windows to look out of, plus top pay too. If they don't get that. They want their safe spaces. :shakes head:

I’m guilty about the part right outta college. Right after graduation, I got a decent job lined up and thought I was the sh*t. It was my HR director that put me in my place and humbled me, for which I am grateful. And it does seem like a pattern of whenever I interview applicants, most of them have this expectation of having a cush and easy workload, but when I tell them of a typical day, they look like a deer in headlights.

Ok, back to bashing douche demuro.

For those that gripe about the Z that bought earlier models, ok I can understand. But for those that recently bought, you knew what you were buying and still gripe about being outdated? Why did you buy?

I didn't read this entire thread, but did anyone catch the part where he said there was a "subwoofer where the spare should be, but there's no spare"?

He didn't even bother to look a little deeper/better to see that the sub is mounted to the spare.

Things like this and all the other stuff mentioned in this thread is precisely why I never pay attention to reviewers no matter what it is.

If I want to read reviews on something, I dig up random forums and sites online where actual people like you and me post up our actual experiences with the product. That's where you get your most accurate reviews, not some a$$ clown who thinks he knows what he's talking about and makes a living off of it.

You figure a "professional" review would include research before doing the review. Just so you don't come across like a dumbass. The fact that a few things he said sound like diarrhea. Also, I guess I am one of those true sports car type guys though, I mean, who needs electric seats and sound deadening material because of "road noise", only to spoil the ride by adding weight. Then have "reviewers" complain about the Z being too heavy for a sports car.

There has always been hate by most reviewers on this car. People should make thier own opinion by test driving one before judging on some else's biased diarrhea, erm, review.

Funny how one guy can trash talk and another person actually state the facts... :driving:

Agree 100%.

A true sports car, IMO, would be something raw and without the luxuries. I think Honda did a good job with the s2k CR where even AC was an option.

Some people should stop and think about what it actually takes to develop a brand new car and how much that costs. When you sell more mustangs in one year than Nissan has sold of the 370z since 2009, there is a lot less to invest in future models. Ford can sell enough to invest in a new mustang every 5 years or so. Nissan maybe waiting to make return investment before investing into a new Z.

Eh, in 2008, the car was a $45k vehicle, but now? No way. Not when we have camaros and mustangs absolutely slaying it for much less. Back in 2008, you needed a P car, Cobra, or corvette to tear it up. Even as late as 2014 or so the mustang lacked irs, etc. and the camaro sucked. Now? The Z is just a fanboy car. Nothing wrong with that if you're a fanboy, and thats okay, but it has no curremt selling points from a technical stance.

So? Screw them. Who in this thread holds Nissan stock? If they can't get with it, why do they deserve an excuse and a charity sale?

Sounds like I struck a nerve, not my intent. Purpose of my comparison was simply for sales figures only. The fact that people compare the Z to a muscle car, pony car and SEDAN, is absurd. When you compare apples to apples performance wise and in the same category, the Z is STILL a good buy for what you get. The Z was never intended to be a muscle car equivalent. And if they did, I personally would move on from the Z, and buy a sports car/grand tourer.

The Z at 45k is within several grand of the new Supra...