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armensti 01-07-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 356338)
from 5th to 2nd is a pretty good shock to the transmission, you might wanna start going from 5th to 3rd unless you want to replace your tranny before 10k

yeah but 3rd doesnt take off as fast as 2nd and plus there is plenty of room to go to second when your doing 40mph. 2nd gear pulls all the way to 65mph if im not wrong.

TARDCORE 01-07-2010 08:27 PM

I actually asked a similar question the first day I bought my Z. But every time I took a small break from driving it, it seemed to get better. The only problem is 1st to 2nd. There is so much torque compared to my rsx that I have not gotten used to it yet. And right around 3.5k rpms be careful speeding up to pass someone if your going to compare the Z to an SI because the Z seems to want to play bumper cars with the car infront of it :tup:

OldGuy 01-07-2010 09:20 PM

This manual transmission is very user friendly. I have had several and this one's no problem at all for one who knows how to drive a manual transmission. I wouldn't want to learn on it---too powerful and I'd hate to put my new Z through the learning "experience." Nevertheless, I chose the automatic (with the paddle shifters), which I find to be the best of both worlds.

tru_Asiatik 01-07-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 356338)
from 5th to 2nd is a pretty good shock to the transmission, you might wanna start going from 5th to 3rd unless you want to replace your tranny before 10k

yup thats why i wouldnt even think about doin it
yes it can be done but is it good for the transmission?..NO :P
change ur ways armen lol u havent been to any meets lately

tonybui 01-07-2010 11:26 PM

I think I'll be fine since I'm very carefully, expecially with something sexy like the Z. No racing for me so I'll just get used to the clutch before really go out in public !!! I think nothing is impossible, if I can't master this in a month, I will for the next month, and if I really can't I should kill myself, anyone agrees ??

Red370 01-07-2010 11:45 PM

Get as much practice as you can during hours where traffic is light and take routes around town that arent known for particularly steep hills, 2 weeks til your good and proficient max.

Jack370Z 01-08-2010 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack370Z
I've had years of manual transmission driving experience and found the 370 a bit more of a challenge than the older Z's I've owned. The 370 has a unique feel and I am almost certain it is due to the DBW (Drive By Wire). The throttle has a slight delay in response since it isn't connected mechanically to the fuel system. Once you get the "feel" it will be smooth but having driven other systems with a mechanical connection I find the memory effect from driving them still causes me to almost stall from a dead start once in a while. It does get better with experience. The 370 could be a challenge for someone just learning.

is there a way to change this? i mean is there a way to make the throttle response quicker? it doesnt take that long for the car to rev up but if it could do it faster i wouldnt mind at all.



Here is a link to a fix I picked up in an earlier thread...

Sprint Booster USA - MT

a little pricey but if the claims are correct a fix.

armensti 01-08-2010 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack370Z (Post 356610)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack370Z
I've had years of manual transmission driving experience and found the 370 a bit more of a challenge than the older Z's I've owned. The 370 has a unique feel and I am almost certain it is due to the DBW (Drive By Wire). The throttle has a slight delay in response since it isn't connected mechanically to the fuel system. Once you get the "feel" it will be smooth but having driven other systems with a mechanical connection I find the memory effect from driving them still causes me to almost stall from a dead start once in a while. It does get better with experience. The 370 could be a challenge for someone just learning.

is there a way to change this? i mean is there a way to make the throttle response quicker? it doesnt take that long for the car to rev up but if it could do it faster i wouldnt mind at all.



Here is a link to a fix I picked up in an earlier thread...

Sprint Booster USA - MT

a little pricey but if the claims are correct a fix.

anyone tried it yet? if it really works it could potentially make the car faster because you wouldnt waste all that time waiting for the engine response.

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Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik (Post 356517)
yup thats why i wouldnt even think about doin it
yes it can be done but is it good for the transmission?..NO :P
change ur ways armen lol u havent been to any meets lately

i want to come but i just never have the time. When i do decide to show up you know were rolling together :tup:

IDZRVIT 01-08-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tonybui (Post 355721)
As title said, anyone with same problem? I don't have a problem as I have basic of drving a stick with my cousin SI but is the Z harder since it's a RWD??

No. It sounds more like your inexperience driving a manual.

370Zsteve 01-08-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack370Z (Post 356610)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack370Z
I've had years of manual transmission driving experience and found the 370 a bit more of a challenge than the older Z's I've owned. The 370 has a unique feel and I am almost certain it is due to the DBW (Drive By Wire). The throttle has a slight delay in response since it isn't connected mechanically to the fuel system. Once you get the "feel" it will be smooth but having driven other systems with a mechanical connection I find the memory effect from driving them still causes me to almost stall from a dead start once in a while. It does get better with experience. The 370 could be a challenge for someone just learning.

is there a way to change this? i mean is there a way to make the throttle response quicker? it doesnt take that long for the car to rev up but if it could do it faster i wouldnt mind at all.



Here is a link to a fix I picked up in an earlier thread...

Sprint Booster USA - MT

a little pricey but if the claims are correct a fix.

I don't feel any 'delay' at all and question spending over $300 for this "fix" of a "problem" that imho doesn't even exist. Reminds me of those $20 ECU things you see on eBay.

Red370 01-08-2010 07:49 AM

I have noticed a slight delay in response when shifting rapidly, its not terrible, but it would be nice to completely eliminate it, I wonder if that sprint booster thing works....

If you havent noticed a delay, try this trick, while at idle, raise your foot off the floorboard and kick your throttle in real quick and watch how long it takes for the car to rev, there is definitely a noticeable lag compared to a cable driven throttle.

xtremespeed21 01-08-2010 12:53 PM

I wonder. Do any of the rental companies rent a MT 370?

armensti 01-08-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xtremespeed21 (Post 356877)
I wonder. Do any of the rental companies rent a MT 370?

good luck finding a company that rents any 370z lolll. i dont even think they rent out stick cars unless their exotics and those will cost you an arm and a leg just for one day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 356653)
I have noticed a slight delay in response when shifting rapidly, its not terrible, but it would be nice to completely eliminate it, I wonder if that sprint booster thing works....

If you havent noticed a delay, try this trick, while at idle, raise your foot off the floorboard and kick your throttle in real quick and watch how long it takes for the car to rev, there is definitely a noticeable lag compared to a cable driven throttle.

its not that noticeable if you dont pay attention to it but to me its kinda getting annoying. I want the engine to rev up as soon as i step on the gas because when your downshifting its annoying having to wait for the gas to kick in.

Jack370Z 01-08-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by armensti (Post 357018)
its not that noticeable if you dont pay attention to it but to me its kinda getting annoying. I want the engine to rev up as soon as i step on the gas because when your downshifting its annoying having to wait for the gas to kick in.

When downshifting with the SyncRev Sport Pkg the RPM's will hold momentarily on an up shift and rev match on a down shift allowing for a smooth transition . I have found the "slight" throttle response delay isn't as apparent as you cycle thru the gears. I haven't tried the Booster thing but might run by for the free demo they offer on their website. It is about an hour drive but...it would be a good excuse to make a little road trip. The more I drive my Z the less it bothers me but there is a short learning curve if it has been a few days since I've had it on the road and driven my work car (the Saturn).

quadsbaby 01-08-2010 07:15 PM

Just so you guys know, the speedbooster/sprintbooster thing is just an amplifier... i.e. Pressing the gas pedal in 2/3 of the way without speedbooster gives you 2/3 power, with speedbooster gives you full throttle. If you're pushing the pedal down at full speed, the difference between going 2/3 of the way and all the way is usually less than .1 seconds. The only reason people think their engines are more responsive is because they are getting throttle response before the pedal hits the floor. In other words, the "speed"booster doesn't really speed up anything at all.

If you really want something that essentially puts all of your throttle response in the first 2/3 of travel (increasing sensitivity, but decreasing "feel"), then by all means, go ahead. But understand that the circuitry required to do this (essentially a voltage multiplier on the signal the pedal sends to the ECU) costs maybe $20 at most.

<--- Electrical Engineer


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