I also agree that the camaro could easily be mistaken for the charger.

The fanboy-ism in this thread runs deep!

Get what you want, not what people on this board tell you to get.

Well I guess you have to decide between Japanese sports car or Canadian muscle. :eek:

For your particular concern I would say get an Evo X. Or, as someone else stated, a G37S.

I test drove the Camero 2SS last week when I was browsing around for cars. I've already have my heart set on the 370z Sports + Touring + Nav, but I figured it doesn't hurt to see my other options around $40K.

The Camero 2SS was the top notch version at the dealership; the one i test drove was black and had some $3,400 21" Factory option rims on it - crazy...so not worth the price. The MSRP was $45K. So without the rims add-on, it's really apples to apples I'm comparing against with the fully loaded 370z ($41K).

Anyways, although the exterior of the Camero 2SS looks really mean and agressive, even if you don't make this a Daily Driver...the interior was really really cheaply made. Japanese just knows how to keep the interior exciting. The interior not only wasn't exciting, it reminded me of those American rental cars. Just the center console and everything. The gauges are not put in a conveniently visible location like the 370z. The front and Rear windshield is totally small from the inside - I can understand the rear being small since the 370z isn't that much better, but the front windshield is totally squashed vertically. The Camero was really really hard to see through. Also, it may seem like a bigger car from the outside...the trunk access for the Camero is ridiculous, it has a super small opening compared to the actual trunk size. Plus, the best thing they have for NAV is their stupid ON STAR system, no Factory NAV even if you want it. Enought about the interior, so I test drove it, unfortunately AUTO Transmission was all they have...the handling around a sharp turn was really good. It grip just like the 370z, but the acceleration was a dissappointment to me because I was expecting it to be much quicker considering they put the 400 hp Corvette Engine in it - but the car was too heavy.

So my verdict is that the 370z is a better car for me. Hope this helps.

By the way, I test drove other cars such as Porsche and BMWs and I find the interiors of German cars relatively boring as well. The 1 series BMW was practically the same layout since it's previous generations. And the funny part is it doesn't change much from 1 series to an M3, 5 series, or 7 series. They all look the same and very interesting layout. And same with Porsche, their Cayman and Boxster is pretty much the same....but I guess if you're in love with the car itself, I can understand these little minor details don't matter. A BMW is still a BMW and a Porsche is still a Porsche.

I'm not sure if this helps, but I saw a guy driving a new Camaro through a parking lot today. He had a stupid little hat on which was pulled down so low that his piggy eyes could barely been seen, but you could tell he was definately glaring at people. He immediately struck me as somebody who beats his girlfriend and dog, watches dumba$$ movies and drinks sh*tty cheap beer. Also struck me as somebody who probably had crappy tattoos done as a teenager and regrets each and every one of them. Which is probably why he beats his dog.

You're welcome!

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Great story.

haha... hat with the straight brim maybe curved up at the end. I bet he also had a nautical star tattoo (even though he's never been anywhere near the ocean) and a couple swallows (so "jailhouse" generic) tattoo.
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That's nothing compared to what I saw happening with a 370z

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...oungcouple.jpg

I'm pretty sure he was that way before he got the Camaro :). Let's not mix up cause and effect. hehe

Trouble maker!

That's how I rock em' :rofl2:

Besides, this thread is as useless as a vagina on hilary clinton.

IMO the rear of the Camaro makes it look like a matchbox car...The front looks just MEAN but the back is blah

hopefully, this could help in your decision....

GM says Camaro SS transmission issues identified, but doesn't disclose the problem - MotorAuthority

Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 vs Nissan Nismo 370Z - FastestLaps.com

Here is hoping that the next year model will feature direct injection for more hp, better tires, and better balance performance overall.

They used a wrong picture for the Nismo 370z, which makes me wonder if they even used the right Nismo 370z or did they use a Nismo S-Tune 370z.

Also, I'm not surprised that they claim the Camaro SS is noticeably faster, afterall....the Camaro SS has a much bigger size Engine so if the 370z can have as close of a lap time and acceleration, more pts should be going to the 370z.

By the way, I can't believe the scoop in the front bumper of the Camaro SS is a fake. Unless the Camaro V6 3.6L can perform nearly as well as the 370z, which I can bet it cannot....I'm all for the Z. I can appreciate American Muscle, but it's just not for me. Because in the end of the day, what's stopping Nissan in coming out with a massive V8 engine like the Camaro SS (almost twice the size of the Z) just to prove that the Z can perform better.

Also, like I said previous from my experience from testing the car....the article you provided didn't miss a thing

Interior Design and Special Features

"On the downside, there are a few ergonomic annoyances. The steering wheel is overstyled and doesn't fit human hands the way it should; the same goes for the bizarrely shaped manual shift knob. We also dislike the main gauges (they're hard to read) and the dead pedal (it isn't angled properly for comfortable cruising). Other issues include lackluster interior materials quality, the lack of an optional factory navigation system and the Camaro's tiny trunk opening, making loading elongated objects an exercise in frustration (golfers be warned). Backseat comfort is marginal, as you'd expect -- there's a shortage of headroom and legroom, so don't expect to use the rear quarters for more than short trips. The rear seats don't fold down, but there's a trunk pass-through."

I seriously did not get this vibe with the 370z; of course it doesn't have backseat-boo (but that's why you'd get a G37S), but I loved everything they did with the Z since the 350z.

The track times are from magazine tested results. And yeah, the site used the wrong picture but the car tested is the Nismo 370Z.

The Camaro SS beat the Nismo 370Z fair and square. Which is sad because we tend to see the Camaro being the better performer in a straight line battle and not curvy tracks.
Nissan should take these times into consideration esp the new 2011 Mustang that is about to debut. Give the Nismo 370Z justice, Nissan!

the camaro ss was among some of my choices too but in the end, i picked the 370z.

afaik, both of those tracks have very long straights and focus on power more than anything else. It is surprising that the Z came that close, in that case.

I know this point has been made several times in several camaro threads, but for those who would buy the camaro JUST for it's power output, remember that it barely beat the cobalt SS in the nurburgring. I'm not saying the track is the end-all beat-all for test for handling, but it shows that there is a difference in straight line muscle and handling.

Like you I had to choose between the two. I love the 370Z and I’m saving up for one right now, but I went with the Camaro first. I choose the Camaro first because I needed the back seats and if I didn’t I might have gotten the Z first, but both are good cars. Here's somethings I like and don't like about my car.

Camaro 2SS/RS
Pros.
I love the sound of the engine and exhaust (Not stock Corsa)
Lots of power snaps you head back with every shift!
Turns heads at every light I stop at.
Brake are top notch.
This car can hang at any track (beat the Nismo 370Z)
The LS3 is a monster and takes well to mods
Cost

Cons,
The car sits to high it needs to be dropped about 2”, noticeable body role on hard cornering
No Nav, pedals are ugly, carpet sucks
Fake hood scoop
Stock exhaust is to quite
I hate the skip shift

The only compliant I had about the Z was you could hear everything outside even with the windows up but I’ll have one soon:tup:.

The Camaro is much quieter inside, there appears to be much more deadening of road noise and engine noise. The Z is still more fun to drive though, feels more alive.

I'm not putting much into that last Nismo test either (where they crashed it), something was seriously wrong with that test, the numbers didn't add up.

Just in case you dont know, you can fix that very easily...

Those numbers add up to the Nismo not being any better than the base 370z.

Reliability-wise, no possible comparison. Only time will tell if GM has learned the lesson.

What is the most obvious flaw of the Nismo compared to the base 370Z with sports package in terms of performance? The tires, right?

Seemingly worse in that one particular track review. Who knows, maybe they left the spacers on? Maybe it was overheating? There will be other comparo's so we'll see if another mag gets different results. I'm not really expecting the Nismo to do all that much better than the Base w/Sport, the only significant difference is the improved damping in the suspension.

The Nismo uses the Advan Sport instead of the Bridgestone RE50A's. The rears are 10mm wider but the fronts are the same width, the rims are also 1/2 an inch wider. It's quite possible that the Advan's just aren't quite as sticky. They are 180TW vs the RE50A 140TW, but it's hard to cross reference those numbers between manufacturers.