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david90 11-22-2018 03:09 AM

Fake oil filters?
 
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Can somebody tell me if the oil filter in the picture is genuine Nissan part? I'm a bit suspicious because the oil filter in the picture does not look like the oil filter that I recently bought from a local dealership. The oil filter from the dealership did not have Japanese writings on it and I believe it was made in mexico and not china.

Another thing that makes me suspicious is the gray adhesive shown in the last picture. It sloppy and inconsistent.

Has anyone bought an oil filter from a dealership that looked like the oil filter in the pictures below?

bunk 11-22-2018 05:34 AM

Im sure the filter is sourced out by Nissan, so the actual manufacturers (and quality) are most likely different and they just stamp their name on it. If a dealer is selling "fake" parts, that could land them in hot water with Nissan. I use Mobil 1 and K&N filters.

Cyber370 11-22-2018 06:34 AM

Depending on which part of the world it is, the filters will be manufactured by different sources. The ones I get are made in Mexico. The original filter when the car was new was made in Japan. What you’re seeing is absolutely normal and I highly doubt that the Nissan dealer would sell counterfeit filters. There are a lot of OEM filters made in China. Nothing strange about that.


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old guy 11-22-2018 07:49 AM

When in doubt throw it out !

axmea? 11-22-2018 10:32 AM

Where did you buy the other one?

david90 11-22-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3800995)
Where did you buy the other one?

I bought the oil filter in question on Ebay. The user has 100% rating but only 400 feedbacks. It did not look like the seller is associated with a Nissan dealership.

Cyber370 11-22-2018 12:15 PM

I misunderstood your original post. I was under the impression you bought it from a Nissan dealer. There is a lot of Chinese counterfeit stuff on EBay. I would throw it in the trash.


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cv129 11-22-2018 12:20 PM

Bobistheoilguy is your friend on this topic, people have cut open various filters, discuss the designs and build qualities (material of the filter elements, bypass valves designs, etc etc etc)

cv129 11-22-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3801042)
I misunderstood your original post. I was under the impression you bought it from a Nissan dealer. There is a lot of Chinese counterfeit stuff on EBay. I would throw it in the trash.


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Nah not throw it out, cut it open and compare it the guts to a basic Fram.

Spooler 11-22-2018 01:47 PM

That filter is no longer carried by Nissan. Part number has been superseded by the -65FOE. Looks like it may be counterfeit.

SouthArk370Z 11-22-2018 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by old guy (Post 3800944)
When in doubt throw it out !

:iagree:

Oil filters are cheap. Engines are expensive.

Rusty 11-23-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3801042)
I misunderstood your original post. I was under the impression you bought it from a Nissan dealer. There is a lot of Chinese counterfeit stuff on EBay. I would throw it in the trash.


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:iagree:
Just seen a video on fake performance parts. :eek:

Didn't someone else just have a problem with the gray sealant on a oil filter?

nis350 11-24-2018 12:30 AM

it is just insane with all these fakes. I read that there are also fake spark plugs. The potential engine damage is huge...

Rusty 11-24-2018 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3801370)
it is just insane with all these fakes. I read that there are also fake spark plugs. The potential engine damage is huge...

Rule of thumb. Try not to buy anything from China. :tup:

Quicksilvers 11-24-2018 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3801044)
Nah not throw it out, cut it open and compare it the guts to a basic Fram.

From what I have seen the Chinese will try to replicate a part or item for our cars for forfeit and could care less about the quality control of the part or item. I agree would not purchase anything made in China or Mexico for my Z. Not to defend the eBay seller but there are a lot of eBay sellers sometimes that don’t even know actually where the item they are selling is really made I have seen this before they just try to sell the item. If you are skeptical about the part for your Z throw it in the trash. I too use Genuine Nissan oil filters for my Z oil changes and I called different Nissan Dealership parts departments and asked where the oil filters they were selling were made in and I found several Nissan dealership parts departments that are selling the “quality” Genuine Nissan oil filters that are made in Japan you will have to do your own research. The only oil filter I have ever used so far on my Z that came apart internally was a Fram oil filter. After the surprise of the Fram oil filter I was using that came apart after the oil change I went and purchased a Fram oil filter and cut it open to see it internally. I found cardboard paper media and the bypass valve design looked to be poor. I since have been using Genuine Nissan oil filters I have found that are made in Japan as the Genuine Nissan OEM oil filter has a superior bypass valve design for Nissan and Infiniti vehicles.

God-Speed 11-24-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3801142)
:iagree:

Oil filters are cheap. Engines are expensive.

:iagree: It's an Oil filter, that's it. Throw it away and be done with it!! :tup:

vtec to vvel 11-24-2018 07:30 PM

I noticed yours is 15208-65FOC. The filter I get from Nissan is 15208-65FOE.

vtec to vvel 11-24-2018 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3801056)
That filter is no longer carried by Nissan. Part number has been superseded by the -65FOE. Looks like it may be counterfeit.

Exactly about the 65FOE part.

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3801463)
From what I have seen the Chinese will try to replicate a part or item for our cars for forfeit and could care less about the quality control of the part or item. I agree would not purchase anything made in China or Mexico for my Z. Not to defend the eBay seller but there are a lot of eBay sellers sometimes that don’t even know actually where the item they are selling is really made I have seen this before they just try to sell the item. If you are skeptical about the part for your Z throw it in the trash. I too use Genuine Nissan oil filters for my Z oil changes .

The Nissan filters I buy at the Nissan dealership are made in Mexico according to the box and filter. Chances are, yours are too.

Fountainhead 11-26-2018 08:17 AM

there is NO way I'd put anything other than a backup camera on my Z from EBay. Like another poster said, oil filter is cheap, an engine is expensive. I always assume anything that's a commodity item on EBay, and lately Amazon, is counterfeit; especially something as easy to make as an oil filter. Even oil can be resealed/replaced with garbage oil with the original removed.
Buyer Beware is even more valid now than ever before. I buy my filters from the stealership.

ayrton88 11-26-2018 09:11 AM

I don't want to appear insulting, but why would one even look for an oil filter on ebay? They aren't expensive. About the only thing I buy off ebay are old F1 t-shirts.

alcheng 11-26-2018 05:16 PM

how much you can save from buying from eBay?? :confused:

Zingston 11-26-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 3801981)
how much you can save from buying from eBay?? :confused:

Dude, like a dollar or even 2!!!!

vtec to vvel 11-26-2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3801992)
Dude, like a dollar or even 2!!!!

Plus shipping and handling!!!!

vtec to vvel 11-26-2018 06:50 PM

OP, while you’re at it, what about eBay motor oil and turbo kits.

Cory Gillmore 11-29-2018 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3801371)
Rule of thumb. Try not to buy anything from China. :tup:

Hell just stay away from eBay crap completely. This car is too nice to be putting cheap crap on it just to save a few bucks.

Zingston 11-29-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3801997)
OP, while you’re at it, what about eBay motor oil and turbo kits.

Hmmmmmm... perhaps I'll try these fake consumables going forward. Oh yeah, I could save a ton! :ugh:

Here's a topic: which fake filter is the best?

jchammond 11-29-2018 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3801371)
Rule of thumb. Try not to buy anything from China. :tup:

Went to the Toyota Stealership & picked up “Toyota” oil (0w16) & “Toyota” oil filter w/new crush washer.......”Made in China” written on filter :ugh2: oh well, 6yrs or 120k miles....that’s what’s going back on it :ugh2::ugh:

NorthStyle 11-30-2018 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3802675)
Went to the Toyota Stealership & picked up “Toyota” oil (0w16) & “Toyota” oil filter w/new crush washer.......”Made in China” written on filter :ugh2: oh well, 6yrs or 120k miles....that’s what’s going back on it :ugh2::ugh:

B-B-B-But China and eBay are the Devil jchammond!!!

jchammond 11-30-2018 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle (Post 3802702)
B-B-B-But China and eBay are the Devil jchammond!!!

So is the Waterboy’s Woman; but she looks like she’d be nice to talk to :ugh2:

jchammond 11-30-2018 06:17 AM

Don’t want to chance Toyota trying to get out of any warranty claims for not using oem filters/fluids ,,,as I paid for bumper—-bumper extended warranty for 6/120k & gonna be right st the mileage mark on or just before 6 :driving:

trbo1007 11-30-2018 04:27 PM

Conyers Nissan on EBay or Amazon is ok. I got a case of ester oil and filters no issues with free shipping earlier this year.

I’ve also dealt with them in person awhile back.

NorthStyle 11-30-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by trbo1007 (Post 3802882)
Conyers Nissan on EBay or Amazon is ok. I got a case of ester oil and filters no issues with free shipping earlier this year.

I’ve also dealt with them in person awhile back.

That's what my sarcasm was directed towards. There's plenty of sellers on eBay (and Amazon) selling legit products for everything to be labeled as fake/garbage/etc like how the chain ranting went a bit ago.

Cory Gillmore 11-30-2018 05:50 PM

My local Nissan dealer does a synthetic oil change for $45. Don't know how many people know this but Nissan now recommends a 0w20 Nisan branded oil for all Nissan autos, which is what they use.

Although lets not discuss oil too much or else the oil nazis will come in and shut the thread down. You know, because the370z.com is just doing so well with traffic and clicks here in 2018 that admins can just afford to shut down threads left and right that discuss oil even when mostly UNKNOWN INFORMATION IS BEING DISCUSSED ABOUT OIL.

Sincerely, a salty dude whose had a few threads shut down for stupid *** reasons...

Cory Gillmore 11-30-2018 05:52 PM

Anyway..my point is that an oil change is so damn cheap there's no reason to go looking for discount crap online. $45 is extremely reasonable for a synthetic change.

vtec to vvel 12-01-2018 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3802669)
Hmmmmmm... perhaps I'll try these fake consumables going forward. Oh yeah, I could save a ton!

no, that’s geico!

Zingston 12-02-2018 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3803147)
no, that’s geico!

Oh damn! You're right... I'll still save some jack, but maybe not a ton! FPF: Fake parts forever!
:tiphat:

jchammond 12-02-2018 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3803202)
Oh damn! You're right... I'll still save some jack, but maybe not a ton! FPF: Fake parts forever!
:tiphat:

Geico loves to use only “fake,bootleg,cheap,etc parts” on your vehicle...even if it’s the other party’s fault.
Just be sure & tell the claims guy “New OEM Parts Only” & you’re covered,,,he/she will squirm over that comment & try to say some things are unavailable....and then you say :bs:

axmea? 12-02-2018 10:29 AM

So much speculation and conjecture here to assume it was fake. Like it was suggested, can OP cut open the filter in question for us to see. Would be good to do the same with the dealer product. It'll benefit the community.

cv129 12-02-2018 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3803223)
So much speculation and conjecture here to assume it was fake. Like it was suggested, can OP cut open the filter in question for us to see. Would be good to do the same with the dealer product. It'll benefit the community.

Thank you! Why throw it away when there presents a perfect opportunity for us to find out more detail for real?

Cyber370 12-03-2018 05:41 AM

For what it's worth, I cut open my original factory (Japanese made) Nissan filter when I did my first oil change. In all honesty, it looked like a standard orange Fram with the cardboard end caps and all. I took some pics. I'll try to dig them up and post them.


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