Keep dreaming... :p


Doing well Brother T :tiphat:

Well if that’s the case then how does one go about learning to drive a stick? With that outlook I guess no one would ever drive a stick. I learned how to operate a manual transmission on a 600cc supersport motorcycle. Which I owned for 4 years before buying my manual 370z. I thought that was enough to prepare me for a manual car and in reality it was. The questions I posted here are really just a matter of personal preference. Like do you row down the gears when slowing to a stop or block shift when the RPMs drop below 1500 etc. Other than that it’s just tips on how to smoothly operate the objectively tricky clutch in the 370z.

But yeah as someone said the automatic Z is faster than the manual in a drag race or any other race. The paddles on the Z are nothing special but they STILL shift faster than a human can. So with the paddles you can shift faster than the manual can AND you still have the benefit of selecting the correct gear in order to keep the RPMs in the powerband. Literally the only advantage to driving a manual is the way it makes you feel while driving it. That is it. And that’s enough for me and many others. The manual is dying though because people don’t buy them anymore. And I don’t blame them really, it’s a huge pain in the *** for normal street driving. And slower than modern DCts or automatics.

Yeah, that's swell... :yawn::rolleyes:

At the same time: actually bragging that your automatic is faster is sorta like bragging that you’re faster at sex than anyone else.

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i mean my "slow" auto still beats 95% of the manuals on here. just a fact i cant help that :stirthepot:

sex is like a race. if cum first i win :tiphat:

no one is having fun an hour into sex. also a fact.




well........no one involved. your friend filming in the closet probably is still getting a kick out of it.

Again, everyone drives a manual differently. There's no "set-in-stone" way of doing it. You just do whatever works best for you. And whatever works will change depending on the situation at the time. Dry road, sand, rain, snow, hills, etc, etc.

And I'm tired of people saying this crap about autos being faster. Who cares?! How in the world does that possibly matter on the streets where 99% of Z's are driven every day?! None. None what so ever. And no, they are NOT faster in "any other race". But whatever.

Manuals aren't selling in America because the typical American is fat and lazy and doesn't want to be bothered shifting gears when they could be using that other hand for texting while driving or stuffing a burger in their face. Funny manuals are selling like hot cakes in every other country out there except us. Go figure.

The clutch feel is actually surprisingly reminiscent of the e36 3 series. Tips on driving manual? Don't ride the clutch, don't pop the clutch, and replace the fluid often.

What do you mean exactly by don't ride the clutch? I do see this a lot and I don't do it as far as I know, but what exactly does it mean? Does it mean don't slip it longer than needed?

And how often do you change fluid? I was planning on changing the gear oil and clutch fluid with my next oil change.

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Cory, lighten up. On my last post, it was not directed towards you, but by some of the answers you have gotten on this thread.

The facepalm was because this just turned into another MT vs AT thread...

Yes. Riding the clutch = slipping it longer than necessary. Just wears out the clutch plate faster.

When you have a short stub. You can go like a rabbit. When you have a long one. You go like a horse. :tup:

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Now who would do such a thing lol

Ah damn sorry brother. My bad.

No problem!!!! :tup:

Drive it more, clutch feel is weird on this car w/ stock clutch setup. RJM pedal makes it better and you can adjust it to your liking. Makes the pedal have more feel and less snappy IMO. Still not the best feel. You also really have to wait for the RPM to come down on the 1-2 shift. I find that it's easiest to drive moderately aggressively (backroad speeds). If you're short shifting on the street, the RPM seems to come down too fast and you have to blip even on upshifts. On the track, you have to wait for the RPM. Honestly, just keep driving. Gets better with time. I still have a sloppy 1-2 shift a decent amount of the time after 10k miles.

Exactly. Everyone knows the best part of a manual is chirping the tires. ;)

You realize the auto does that too right? Lol that’s horsepower not transmission.

Can’t chirp the tires by riding the clutch no matter how much horsepower you have. :tiphat:

Especially when chirping into 3rd. :driving::tup:

In just gonna turn this thread into my own little “ask everything I wanna know thread about the z” thread. At my last oil change the dealer put 0w20 oil in my car. Which is not what the manual recommends. I saw on another thread that 0w20 is what Nissan now recommends on the z. You guys have thoughts on this? I was concerned the thinner oil would run hotter this summer but that didn’t seem the case.

I was told always use what the manual says and that Nissan already did a million dollars of R&D. The oil weight gives the proper shear time on the gears and your going to let 1 person change your mind?:driving:

Yep, I'll let one person change my mind. If they spent millions of dollars on R&D. How come the CSC's fail? How the come steering locks fails? How come fuel starve? They spent the money on hoe's and blow if you ask me. :shakes head:

Well not really one person. This was a Nissan dealership. That one person just said Nissan now recommends 0w20 in the z.

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You should start a new thread just for this question :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: (just kidding)

Haha oh I know better than that. I actually asked this question like 7 months ago in a thread that was actually about oil and before anyone could even weigh in the thread was locked! It really pissed me off at the time. Especially since this new recommendation from Nissan is a new thing (2017) and hasn’t been discussed at length on these forums.

I don't bother with the dealership at all. I do all my own work. For one, I know it's done right, two, I can't stand the dealership here in town. They're a bunch of morons.

I just use Mobil 1 5W-30 and the Purolator oil filter designed for the GT-R, meaning that it's larger and filters a little more.

Thinning oil viscosity to improve mileage is stupid. The biggest way to improve mileage on any vehicle is to change the way you drive it.

Alright so I called mt local Nissan dealer today and they confirmed that they recommend the 0w20 in ALL Nissan cars/trucks etc now. He said Nissan developed this new oil themselves and it's a Nissan branded oil. $46 for a full synthetic oil change isn't too bad either, especially from a dealer. But damn he told me $289 for a transmission flush. Which I don't know if that's the same thing as just changing out the transmission fluid like I want but that seems pretty steep.

Can't take longer than an hour with the car up on a lift like they have. So I don't get the extra cost. After watching a Youtube video I feel pretty confident that I could accomplish this task myself. I don't know though I don't have the best track record with a wrench in my hand and a vehicle in front of me. I mean I installed my short RAM intakes but I was going to put on a muffler delete (pretty simple task) and the first damn bolt I touched with a socket wrench became stripped :mad: I had to take it to a shop so they could get it on a lift and whack that exhaust bolt off with a chisel and hammer. Took them quite a while too although they also put on the muffler delete system. That AAM muffler delete sounds damn good too.

I have most of the tools I'd need for this except the thing you use to get the fluid into the transmission which isn't too expensive I don't think. So what do you all think? Is a transmission fluid change pretty easy for a pleb like myself? What's a good fluid to use that I can preferably get at a regular store?

For transmission fluid, Amsoil, Motul, Redline, Royal Purple, just to name a few. Likewise for the engine oil, including Mobil 1.

With all of the major oil companies out there, I really highly doubt Nissan has "engineered" their very own oil. It's probably just some name brand that met their specs and they approved and relabeled as their own.

Tranny flush is for auto's, not manuals. Manuals are bone azz simple. Remove drain plug and drain into catch pan. Install drain plug. Remove fill plug and fill with dino lube.

nissan oils are pretty much motul with a nissan label and 3x the price.

dont ever buy their fluids.

See I thought there was something like this going on. I made sure to stress that it was a manual transmission too. Maybe I just spoke to an idiot or maybe Nissan really does charge the same for manuals and autos.

To change the fluid in the auto is a nightmare. Very time consuming. Yeah, dealers like to make their money in the service dept.

If you got the time. Change it yourself. Not hard at all.

this is the only thing i've ever let the dealership touch on my car.

well the auto fluid change and the recall on the steering lock. kinda had to allow that one.

I’m in south Florida I found a place that advertises Oil and filter, PS fluid, break fluid and coolant for $150, I gave them the oil. I have a friend with a garage so I used the lift and got the transmission and rear end, it wasn’t a big deal.


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Thanks for all the information so far guys.

Now let me ask you about oil change intervals. In the past I’ve always had a lackadaisical attitude about oil change intervals. I had a 2000 GMC Sierra before this car and I used to change the non-synthetic oil in it like every 8-10k miles. Yeah you read that right. Never had any issues out of it and I drove it to about 180k miles before I totalled it.

Now obviously I’m not going to be quite so careless with my Z. But I also believe the synthetic oil in it is better than the recommended 4k miles by Nissan. Now I could be completely wrong in thinking that. So what do you guys think, should I change it right around 4k, or can it be stretched to 5 maybe 6k? Does anyone recommend changing their oil in 3 months even before the 4k miles is up? Thanks.

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which OG do i owe $5 to for him going right to oil info next? wtf....

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Seriously. There is no more discussion. Send in a sample of your oil and they will tell you everything you need to know for $25.