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Asus_ 04-14-2018 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aozmaxed (Post 3747434)
I'm not interested in the overpriced Nismo, just the Sport/Sport Tech 6MT, and no other models. Got to have the VLSD, etc. Feedbacks?

Then do your self a favor and dont overpay for the same car, get an older year. I went with 2011 because i couldn't pass up the deal otherwise i would have gone something 2012-2013, my suggestion is go with a 2012-2014 model, or if you find a great deal on an older model then go for it.

I'm assuming your paying USD so im not sure what the market is like for you but when i bought mine less than a year ago the difference between years were quite expensive and not worth it for the minor changes you could do yourself for much less.

just my opinion and my 2c :tiphat:

aozmaxed 04-15-2018 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Asus_ (Post 3747447)
...my suggestion is go with a 2012-2014 model, or if you find a great deal on an older model then go for it.

Good points, thanks. Anything wrong with 2015-2017 models? Or just pricing, since this gen Z has not been updated much?

Baronsmokes 04-15-2018 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by aozmaxed (Post 3747434)
OK, here's a little dilemma for me. Since I've been a Z faithful for years (still own a '73 240Z with R32 RB26DETT power for fun drives/track) I want to grab a 370Z Sport or Sport Tech before they're not made anymore. I know it's an old design but it's a proven nice driver overall, and they're sitting in lots.

What do you think of bargaining for a NEW 2017 (still a few unsold out there locally) or even a discounted 2018 since I know some dealers are willing to move them? Is it possible to get it under 30K in bargaining? Has anyone successfully done so?

I'm not interested in the overpriced Nismo, just the Sport/Sport Tech 6MT, and no other models. Got to have the VLSD, etc. Feedbacks?

You can deal on whats on lot.
I bought a 2016 in 2017.Was Nissan company car.Had 10,000 miles.Touring sport roadster with every option.They where willing to deal.Got car for $28,000.New price sticker would have been $51,000.The cars are sitting so great time to buy.

Asus_ 04-15-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aozmaxed (Post 3747470)
Good points, thanks. Anything wrong with 2015-2017 models? Or just pricing, since this gen Z has not been updated much?

Nothing wrong with them, just not much has changed.

I wouldn't worry about the year otherwise you could miss out on great deals! I'd say stay above 2011-2012 and you'll be fine..... the newer then even better but don't dismiss any other Z because of the year.

Remember, since there weren't many changes between the years, if there is anything you do like, you can buy it for half the price and have money left over.

gsx95 04-15-2018 05:20 PM

I got a 2017 Sport Touring Roadster with 2700 miles in December of 2017 for 29,995. it is essentially brand new with the remainder of the factory bumper to bumper and the 7 year powertrain warranty because it is a cpo car. Get a lightly used one for so much less than new! The car really is awesome! I traded a 2006 Miata for it and I am so much happier! It may be an older design but it does so much right! I just need better weather here in the northeast to drive it more. I only put about 500 miles on it since I got it...

Baronsmokes 04-15-2018 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Asus_ (Post 3747515)
Nothing wrong with them, just not much has changed.

I wouldn't worry about the year otherwise you could miss out on great deals! I'd say stay above 2011-2012 and you'll be fine..... the newer then even better but don't dismiss any other Z because of the year.

Remember, since there weren't many changes between the years, if there is anything you do like, you can buy it for half the price and have money left over.

Great thing.Get one cheap.Not many changes so Modifications work over several years.Buy cheap and Mod the hell out of it.

gbhrps 04-15-2018 07:23 PM

I agree with gsx95.

I purchased a 2016 Sport Touring Roadster cpo with 11 000 km last fall for peanuts, when compared to the cost a new 2017 would have been.

I retired 17 years ago and while I could have easily paid cash for a new 2017 (MSRP in Canada was $55 000), but keeping that extra $16 000 plus the Canadian Sales Tax of $3 328 in my pocket makes the car even more exciting to drive.

gsx95 04-15-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gbhrps (Post 3747552)
I agree with gsx95.

I purchased a 2016 Sport Touring Roadster cpo with 11 000 km last fall for peanuts, when compared to the cost a new 2017 would have been.

I retired 17 years ago and while I could have easily paid cash for a new 2017 (MSRP in Canada was $55 000), but keeping that extra $16 000 plus the Canadian Sales Tax of $3 328 in my pocket makes the car even more exciting to drive.

Yes it does!😀

aozmaxed 04-16-2018 08:31 AM

Let's see if I can deal on a new 2017 SP M6 at or under 30K since I've seen some dealers still have them. Nissan is stalling on these poor Zs and not much interest from buyers, that's a shame, it's a great package still. Nothing changed much, the 2018s have the Exedy clutch, but is this so much better?

Shoeshear 04-16-2018 10:20 AM

I haven’t driven a mew and old Z back to back, but 2016+ also has active noise canceling and active noise enhancement (noise canceling and fake engine sounds) if that is a deal breaker for you. The clutch action and bite isn’t my favorite in my car (2015) but I don’t remember the new ones blowing me away. It’s probably noticeably better driven back to back.

To echo what the others said, a lightly used recent car can easily save you a bunch of money compared to new. From what I’ve seen, the engines are pretty stout with routine maintenance. Just csc/cmc and oil temp at the track, so a medium or low mileage car shouldn’t scar you off. Come to the dark side!

gsx95 04-16-2018 11:33 AM

The clutch action on the 2017 isn't great either, but I get used to it the more I drive it.

Desert Rat 04-16-2018 04:17 PM

I am on Z car #5. First one I bought back in 1996 was a '73 240Z that I really learned a lot by working on it. Converted to '70 carbs, electronic ignition and did lots of other interior work on it.

I have owned two '83 280ZXTs...one with a manual and one with an auto. An auto is a travesty in any sports car and it certainly was in that one.

Recently I had an '85 300ZX NA car that was beautifully preserved. I rebuilt everything underneath that car and got my fill chasing vacuum lines when I restored the HVAC system in it.

2 years ago I found a 10k mile 2014 base coupe with a manual private part for $23k. Paid cash. No sales tax, no doc fees, and had essentially a new car for a very good price. I'll have this one for a while. I was actually looking at FRS/BRZs at the time but the deal was too good to pass up on the Z and I'm better off for the extra 132 horses under the hood in a much better handling package.

Always loved the Z. Nissan's other lineup is mostly crap these days with CVTs and horrible customer service, but somehow the Z still lives on, albeit by a thread.

ayrton88 04-16-2018 04:43 PM

I love my Z, but I think a Miata is the perfect entry level sports car. Less expensive and still lots of fun. Of course I don't really care about power, just a car that handles like a go kart.

aozmaxed 04-16-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeshear (Post 3747703)
I haven’t driven a mew and old Z back to back, but 2016+ also has active noise canceling and active noise enhancement (noise canceling and fake engine sounds) if that is a deal breaker for you. The clutch action and bite isn’t my favorite in my car (2015) but I don’t remember the new ones blowing me away. It’s probably noticeably better driven back to back.

To echo what the others said, a lightly used recent car can easily save you a bunch of money compared to new. From what I’ve seen, the engines are pretty stout with routine maintenance. Just csc/cmc and oil temp at the track, so a medium or low mileage car shouldn’t scar you off. Come to the dark side!

I'm still and have always been a Z/Fairlady fan, that's why the interest before it's gone. Here's the thing, I did own an '08 G35S 6MT and I hated the clutch, very touchy to modulate even after monkeying with the pedal adjustment nut for a little more play. Does this gen Z still have the same issues? That G35 clutch action was pretty annoying, even my 240Z was easier to modulate LOL.

Magic Bus 04-16-2018 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aozmaxed (Post 3747812)
I'm still and have always been a Z/Fairlady fan, that's why the interest before it's gone. Here's the thing, I did own an '08 G35S 6MT and I hated the clutch, very touchy to modulate even after monkeying with the pedal adjustment nut for a little more play. Does this gen Z still have the same issues? That G35 clutch action was pretty annoying, even my 240Z was easier to modulate LOL.

Yes it does. What I tell every Newbie, RJM clutch pedal. It may also save you $$ in regards to CSC issue. :tiphat:


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